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Chode ^ | 8/5/2009 | Chode

Posted on 08/05/2009 7:57:45 PM PDT by Chode

This will be a general purpose thread for F1 news and pings that really don't require a thread of their own.


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1 posted on 08/05/2009 7:57:45 PM PDT by Chode
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To: Chode

What’s happening with that energy storage device they were using?


2 posted on 08/05/2009 7:59:36 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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FERRARI LASHES OUT AT RIVALS OVER SCHUMACHER REFUSAL

http://www.tsn.ca/auto_racing/story/?id=286723


3 posted on 08/05/2009 7:59:41 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: steve86
damn odd that... the teams that were successful early on the season are not so happy with it now and viscera for the teams that did not so well before are doing better now.

go figure

4 posted on 08/05/2009 8:01:45 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Chode

Kimi was one second off per kiliometer of the top runners at the WRC rally in Finland. Pretty incredible considering it is his first rally also in the Fiat Punto which is not nearly as good as Loeb’s Pug/Cit.

I sure wish Kimi was in a Brawn (or Newey) car because Ferrari slipped when Brawn left - same thing after he left Bennton.


5 posted on 08/05/2009 8:04:18 PM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: Chode

Fitness concerns over Schumacher

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8186319.stm


6 posted on 08/05/2009 8:04:39 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Chode
Cool. I needed a place to put this video.
7 posted on 08/05/2009 8:05:44 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: steve86

“Senate reaches deal to save ‘clunkers’ program” http://www.breitbart.com/article.phpid=D99T33IG2&show_article=1

As I understand it, this is not even coming out of the stimulus package it is new spending.


8 posted on 08/05/2009 8:06:26 PM PDT by JoSixChip (Please don't turn me into flag@whitehouse.gov)
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To: Frantzie
hell... i wish he'd of stayed with McLaren!!! him and the kid would be unstoppable.
9 posted on 08/05/2009 8:06:34 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: 1rudeboy
thx...
10 posted on 08/05/2009 8:07:00 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Chode
Ferrari says Williams refusal shows a "lack of spirit of fair play".

Really?? Ferrari said this?? Heh! :-)
11 posted on 08/06/2009 1:44:10 AM PDT by kb2614 (Cheer up, for the worst is yet to come!)
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To: Chode

thanks


12 posted on 08/06/2009 2:12:32 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Chode

Cry me a river Ferrari.


13 posted on 08/06/2009 6:31:59 AM PDT by frithguild (Can I drill your head now?)
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To: 1rudeboy
truly awesome... i doubt even Senna could of beat him that day. his flow was perfect and he was in the Zone.
14 posted on 08/06/2009 4:07:26 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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Is F1 heading back to North America?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/f1mole/2009/08/is-f1-heading-back-to-north-am.html

Formula 1 looks to be heading back to North America, possibly as soon as next season, after commercial supremo Bernie Ecclestone said the Canadian Grand Prix could be reinstated in 2010.

The teams have called for a return to North America as quickly as possible, even if that means staging a non-profitable race to ensure that F1 cements a place in the competitive landscape of sport across the pond.

Ultimately, they want a race in Canada and one on both the East and West coasts of the United States


15 posted on 08/06/2009 7:28:24 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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I’d be shocked if there was no F1 race in America in 2010, especially with the addition of USF1...the question is whwew will the race be???

Indy is a great atmosphere but horrible F1 track....


16 posted on 08/06/2009 7:44:18 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: God luvs America
Daytona???
17 posted on 08/06/2009 8:20:24 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Chode

Laguna Seca or GO HOME, F1.


18 posted on 08/06/2009 8:23:51 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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I think it might be too small/short of a track. Even for MotoGP, they never really get up to speed anyplace.

We really have no good racetracks in this country for F1 as they stand now. Lots of great road courses, esp for sports car (ALMS/Rolex), and of course all the banked ovals for stock cars.

With massive improvements, I could see someplace like Sears Point or Watkins Glen hosting a race. Road America might be great, but I don’t know that their facilities can handle that kind of race in terms of lodging (for example).


19 posted on 08/07/2009 6:17:33 AM PDT by Betis70 (Keep working serf, Zero's in charge)
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To: Betis70

F1 said there was nothing wrong with the track itself in 89 when they chose the Phoenix street circuit for the USGP because they believed that an F1 crowd would be too large for Laguna Seca and that it was ‘too remote’.

As wikipedia says about the Phoenix choice:
“The United States Grand Prix lasted in Phoenix for three years, but was ultimately dropped due to poor fan turnout.”

“The death blow for the organizers came when word arose that a local ostrich festival had drawn more people than the Grand Prix.”

So, basically, the only objections that F1 had turned out to not be real - first, LS has proven that it can take the crowds that F1 will attract (in fact, LS handles larger crowds on the Monterey Historic weekend) and it’s not at all ‘remote’.

As for the track itself - F1 still races at Monaco, and the Monaco street circuit is 3.34 km/2.075 miles long. Laguna Seca is *2.238* miles (3.602 km) long - so if it’s ‘too short’, so is Monaco. And nobody is complaining about Monaco being too short.


20 posted on 08/07/2009 7:17:57 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Well, I think LS is a great track, I just don’t think F1 in 2010 would like it. You are right about the objections being pretty pathetic—pretty sure GP at LS would draw 2-3 times what the Turkish GP managed.

Monaco probably ought to be dropped in modern F1, but because of the glitterati and the history will be on the schedule for as long as F1 exists. As a race it is usually fairly boring (IMO) unless someone screws up their pit stop.


21 posted on 08/07/2009 9:07:37 AM PDT by Betis70 (Keep working serf, Zero's in charge)
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To: Chode

Where on the east coast for crying out loud? Watkins Glen? Sheesh!


22 posted on 08/07/2009 11:09:24 AM PDT by frithguild (Can I drill your head now?)
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To: Spktyr

F1 - just like NASCAR would love to be in the NY market. To do it they would have to start from scratch. If a Northern NJ town was really smart, they would take some brown field former industrial area with direct assess to arterial roadway and call Hermann Tilke.


23 posted on 08/07/2009 11:16:19 AM PDT by frithguild (Can I drill your head now?)
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Schumacher warms up for F1 return

Michael Schumacher at a karting track in Italy on Thursday
Schumacher is working hard to hone his skills before Valencia

Michael Schumacher has continued his preparations for a return to Formula 1 with a second day of kart racing.

The German, who plans to deputise for the injured Felipe Massa in Valencia on 23 August, had suffered some neck discomfort while testing an F1 car.

But the seven-time world champion told his website that the karting in Northern Italy had caused no problems.


24 posted on 08/07/2009 3:17:56 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Chode

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8186319.stm


25 posted on 08/07/2009 3:19:10 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: JoSixChip

“cash for clunkers”

Does that mean they can trade in the Formula 1 BMW cars, for 2009?


26 posted on 08/07/2009 3:32:35 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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BMW Sauber have rejected a takeover offer from founder Peter Sauber.

Sauber, who holds a 20% stake in the German team, revealed he offered to take it over last week after they announced plans to exit from Formula 1.

He revealed that talks had collapsed, saying the automaker's demands were "far too high".

In order to compete next season, teams had to sign the new Concorde Agreement that governs F1 racing, outlining how the sport is run and how its revenues are distributed, by Wednesday.

The failure of Sauber's bid means he has been unable to meet the deadline. "I have been unable to sign the Concorde Agreement, which guarantees payments worth millions and would have secured the future of the team," Sauber told Autosport. "I am incredibly disappointed and disconsolate. For me this is the bitterest day in my 40-year career in motor sport. It is also a devastating setback for the team.

BMW / Sauber

27 posted on 08/07/2009 3:38:40 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: truth_seeker

Ya, my bad. I posted it in the wrong thread.


28 posted on 08/07/2009 7:06:05 PM PDT by JoSixChip (Please don't turn me into flag@whitehouse.gov)
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To: Chode

F1’s loss, sportscar’s gain?? Sauber does have a history with endurance racing.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sauber-Mercedes.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/si558/3759608220/


29 posted on 08/07/2009 9:48:40 PM PDT by kb2614 (Cheer up, for the worst is yet to come!)
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To: Chode

Yikes.

I raced karts in my misspent youth. I’ve seen video of Schumacher driving a kart - he would have slaughtered me. It was like he had made some Faustian deal for that kind of talent.


30 posted on 08/08/2009 12:24:24 AM PDT by Felis_irritable (Fool me once, I'll punch you in the...er, something or other...)
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To: kb2614
with some luck maybe... but it's still a shame BMW stiffed him.
31 posted on 08/08/2009 6:41:58 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Felis_irritable
there used to be kart races here at the Glen and it could get exciting watching them go through the funnel in front of the scoring tower sometimes
32 posted on 08/08/2009 6:44:57 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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Team US F1 determined to use home talent

The US-based Formula One team due to join the grid next season say they are determined to stick to their guns and use American drivers, despite being approached by experienced names from other countries with substantial financial backing.

"We've been offered well over three-quarters of our racing budget by two drivers already, neither of whom have raced in Formula One but both have won races in GP2," Team US F1 co-founder Peter Windsor told Sports Illustrated magazine.

"Both of them have massive sponsorship they can bring us from their home country. (Team co-founder) Ken (Anderson) and I have got to be very strong, look one another in the eye and say, 'No, we're not going to accept that money, we're not going to hire those guys because we're going to remain true to our convictions’.”

F1 Article

33 posted on 08/09/2009 7:05:37 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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Lauda on Schumacher: the hunger for competition never dies

The 2009 Formula One season has already had its fair share of major stories, but all are set to be surpassed by Michael Schumacher’s planned comeback in the forthcoming European Grand Prix, replacing Felipe Massa. One man who knows all about comebacks is Niki Lauda, who walked away from the sport in 1979, only to return two seasons later and ultimately win a third world title. We got his take on Schumacher’s prospects…

F1 Article

34 posted on 08/09/2009 7:08:18 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Chode

Wonder who is at the top of the list? Patrick (Ugh), Speed, Juan Pablo, etc., etc...


35 posted on 08/09/2009 7:26:15 AM PDT by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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To: Chode; devane617

It won’t be Juan, he’s Columbian. He’s looking for an American. I have no idea where he will find him (or her). The defunct A1GP had some young American drivers in it, but I have no idea how good they really were. Andretti & Rahal (the youngin’s) have good pedigree, but that doesn’t translate into good F1 drivers. I’d like to see Rahal’s kid, he’s got a good temperment. I hope Windsor pulls this off and that F1 doesn’t implode before it happens.

FYI, the ALMS race is on your NBC affliate today. Check your local listings (2:30PM in the WashDC region). That is the sportscar hijack post or ping or whatever of the day. :-)


36 posted on 08/09/2009 8:51:47 AM PDT by kb2614 (Cheer up, for the worst is yet to come!)
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But, didn't Bobby Rahal leave a bad taste over in F1 a few years ago with his Jaguar effort? I agree though, the young guns, especially, Rahal, will be the ticket. I have in the back of my thoughts a top-gun NASCAR guy moving over to F1 for a round or two. I see trouble brewing on the horizon of NASCAR sponsorship, so now may be a good time to take the leap. Perhaps, Jeff Gordon? I suspect his wife will encourage the move, and I think JG would be a helluva F1 driver. However, I hope the Patrick circus, PC correct, girl show doesn't try to lip-stick her way into a ride. I promise, the F1 boys will not be kind....
37 posted on 08/09/2009 9:11:49 AM PDT by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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To: kb2614

it won’t be Patrick either...good name mediocre racer....I would like to say I’m partial to Rahal but he’s done relatively little in one year of CC and two in the IRL...

just for sh!ts and giggles I’d put AJ Almindinger in the car for a test....


38 posted on 08/09/2009 9:17:10 AM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: God luvs America

Oh yeah, Almindinger. I forgot about him. There is a kid named Sumerton (I think thats his name). He raced in the defunct A1GP for a bit. He was pretty good. I don’t have any idea where he is now.


39 posted on 08/09/2009 9:27:24 AM PDT by kb2614 (Cheer up, for the worst is yet to come!)
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good question... since most of the IndyStars as foreign nationals and they can't be stooopid enough to try Danicababy, i hope...
40 posted on 08/09/2009 10:09:01 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Chode

how ‘bout parnelli jones? oops!......


41 posted on 08/09/2009 2:15:53 PM PDT by bobby.223
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there's a blast from the past...
42 posted on 08/09/2009 5:49:18 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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Schumacher cans Formula One return

After much media hype Michael Schumacher has announced that he will not be returning to the sport to replace the injured Felipe Massa in Valencia as hoped due to his ongoing neck injury.

“Yesterday evening, I had to inform Ferrari President Luca di Montezemolo and Team Principal Stefano Domenicali that unfortunately I’m not able to step in for Felipe,” Schumacher stated on his personal website. “I really tried everything to make that temporary comeback possible, however, much to my regret it didn’t work out.

“Unfortunately we did not manage to get a grip on the pain in the neck which occurred after the private F1-day in Mugello, even if medically or therapeutically we tried everything possible.”

Schumacher had been expected to test the F2007 again this week ahead of making the final decision in conjunction with his doctors regarding his return.

“The consequences of the injuries caused by the bike-accident in February, fractures in the area of head and neck, unfortunately have turned out to be still too severe,” he continued.

“As there were no improvements after the day in Mugello, I decided at short notice on Sunday to do that thorough examination already yesterday.

“I am disappointed to the core. I am awfully sorry for the guys of Ferrari and for all the fans which crossed fingers for me. I can only repeat that I tried everything that was within my power. All I can do now is to keep my fingers crossed for the whole team for the coming races.”

With Schumacher now out of the running, the team will be busy trying to find a suitable replacement and may be forced to field test and reserve driver Marc Gene or Luca Badoer.

Earl ALEXANDER
© CAPSIS International

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/090811094948.shtml


major bummer....if the FIA does not rescind the Renault suspension for the Valencia GP there are going to be a LOT of angry people in the stands...


43 posted on 08/11/2009 10:13:09 AM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: God luvs America
major bummer....if the FIA does not rescind the Renault suspension for the Valencia GP there are going to be a LOT of angry people in the stands...

Unless they suit Alonso in Red ... LOL .. but that's not going to happen this time

I was really looking forward to seeing Michael race again

.

44 posted on 08/11/2009 12:32:15 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: God luvs America

Noooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was looking forwarding to seeing him go at it again.


45 posted on 08/11/2009 1:00:23 PM PDT by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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To: God luvs America
just damn... yup, there'll be a lotta upset folk for sure.
46 posted on 08/11/2009 2:55:00 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: God luvs America

Cry me a River Ferrari. Maybe Ferrari has a test driver? Maybe Alonso will step into the Ferrari for the race?


47 posted on 08/11/2009 5:24:25 PM PDT by frithguild (Can I drill your head now?)
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To: God luvs America

I am upset I was really looking forward to seeing Schumacher again. F1 seems to have the same doldroms as cycling did when Lance retired.


48 posted on 08/11/2009 5:35:42 PM PDT by omega4179 ((/) Happened)
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Chode...please hit the rest of the list as I can’t open my mail from the office....

Renault win Valencia appeal
Monday 17th August 2009

Renault and Fernando Alonso have won an appeal against a one-race ban, clearing them to take part in Sunday’s European Grand Prix.

The French team were punished after allowing Alonso to leave the pit lane with a loose wheel at last month’s Hungarian Grand Prix.

The wheel came off and bounced across the track at the July 26 race, with race stewards subsequently ruling that the team’s pit crew knew the wheel was not properly secured and failed to tell the driver.

Renault were hopeful the team’s suspension would be lifted - and on Monday motorsport’s governing body the FIA overturned the ban and instead decided to fine the team just over £30,000.

A statement on the FIA’s official website read: “Renault admitted to the court that they breached the sporting regulations, in that they failed to ensure that (the) car complied with the conditions for safety throughout practice and the race, and that they released the car after a pit stop when it was unsafe to do so.

“However, it requested the court to reconsider the severity of the sanction imposed by the stewards.

“Having heard the arguments of the parties, the court have decided as follows:

1) To allow the appeal and overturn the sanction imposed by the Stewards in the contested decision.

2) To issue a reprimand and impose a fine of US$50,000 (£30,600) upon Renault.

“The reasons for this decision will be published in a full judgment in the coming days.”

With the ban overturned Alonso will now race at his home grand prix in Valencia, which is likely to prove highly popular with the Spanish crowd.

The incident happened the day after Felipe Massa was involved in an horrific incident which left him with life-threatening injuries.

The Ferrari driver needed surgery on his skull after being struck by an object dislodged from the Brawn GP car of Rubens Barrichello during qualifying at the Hungaroring.

The previous week, 18-year-old Formula Two driver Henry Surtees - the son of 1964 F1 champion John Surtees - died after being struck on the head by a wheel and tyre while travelling at 120mph at Brands Hatch.

http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,18954,3213_5496832,00.html

this is not a surprise....tickets sales were down but I’m sure the Schumacher news propped them up....once Schumi pulled out they had to reverse this...


49 posted on 08/17/2009 2:27:23 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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ping
50 posted on 08/17/2009 2:38:42 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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