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Posted on 08/05/2009 7:57:45 PM PDT by Chode
This will be a general purpose thread for F1 news and pings that really don't require a thread of their own.
What’s happening with that energy storage device they were using?
FERRARI LASHES OUT AT RIVALS OVER SCHUMACHER REFUSAL
Kimi was one second off per kiliometer of the top runners at the WRC rally in Finland. Pretty incredible considering it is his first rally also in the Fiat Punto which is not nearly as good as Loeb’s Pug/Cit.
I sure wish Kimi was in a Brawn (or Newey) car because Ferrari slipped when Brawn left - same thing after he left Bennton.
Fitness concerns over Schumacher
“Senate reaches deal to save ‘clunkers’ program” http://www.breitbart.com/article.phpid=D99T33IG2&show_article=1
As I understand it, this is not even coming out of the stimulus package it is new spending.
Cry me a river Ferrari.
Is F1 heading back to North America?
Formula 1 looks to be heading back to North America, possibly as soon as next season, after commercial supremo Bernie Ecclestone said the Canadian Grand Prix could be reinstated in 2010.
The teams have called for a return to North America as quickly as possible, even if that means staging a non-profitable race to ensure that F1 cements a place in the competitive landscape of sport across the pond.
Ultimately, they want a race in Canada and one on both the East and West coasts of the United States
I’d be shocked if there was no F1 race in America in 2010, especially with the addition of USF1...the question is whwew will the race be???
Indy is a great atmosphere but horrible F1 track....
Laguna Seca or GO HOME, F1.
I think it might be too small/short of a track. Even for MotoGP, they never really get up to speed anyplace.
We really have no good racetracks in this country for F1 as they stand now. Lots of great road courses, esp for sports car (ALMS/Rolex), and of course all the banked ovals for stock cars.
With massive improvements, I could see someplace like Sears Point or Watkins Glen hosting a race. Road America might be great, but I don’t know that their facilities can handle that kind of race in terms of lodging (for example).
F1 said there was nothing wrong with the track itself in 89 when they chose the Phoenix street circuit for the USGP because they believed that an F1 crowd would be too large for Laguna Seca and that it was ‘too remote’.
As wikipedia says about the Phoenix choice:
“The United States Grand Prix lasted in Phoenix for three years, but was ultimately dropped due to poor fan turnout.”
“The death blow for the organizers came when word arose that a local ostrich festival had drawn more people than the Grand Prix.”
So, basically, the only objections that F1 had turned out to not be real - first, LS has proven that it can take the crowds that F1 will attract (in fact, LS handles larger crowds on the Monterey Historic weekend) and it’s not at all ‘remote’.
As for the track itself - F1 still races at Monaco, and the Monaco street circuit is 3.34 km/2.075 miles long. Laguna Seca is *2.238* miles (3.602 km) long - so if it’s ‘too short’, so is Monaco. And nobody is complaining about Monaco being too short.
Well, I think LS is a great track, I just don’t think F1 in 2010 would like it. You are right about the objections being pretty pathetic—pretty sure GP at LS would draw 2-3 times what the Turkish GP managed.
Monaco probably ought to be dropped in modern F1, but because of the glitterati and the history will be on the schedule for as long as F1 exists. As a race it is usually fairly boring (IMO) unless someone screws up their pit stop.
Where on the east coast for crying out loud? Watkins Glen? Sheesh!
F1 - just like NASCAR would love to be in the NY market. To do it they would have to start from scratch. If a Northern NJ town was really smart, they would take some brown field former industrial area with direct assess to arterial roadway and call Hermann Tilke.
Schumacher warms up for F1 return
Schumacher is working hard to hone his skills before Valencia
Michael Schumacher has continued his preparations for a return to Formula 1 with a second day of kart racing.
The German, who plans to deputise for the injured Felipe Massa in Valencia on 23 August, had suffered some neck discomfort while testing an F1 car.
But the seven-time world champion told his website that the karting in Northern Italy had caused no problems.
“cash for clunkers”
Does that mean they can trade in the Formula 1 BMW cars, for 2009?
Sauber, who holds a 20% stake in the German team, revealed he offered to take it over last week after they announced plans to exit from Formula 1.
He revealed that talks had collapsed, saying the automaker's demands were "far too high".
In order to compete next season, teams had to sign the new Concorde Agreement that governs F1 racing, outlining how the sport is run and how its revenues are distributed, by Wednesday.
The failure of Sauber's bid means he has been unable to meet the deadline. "I have been unable to sign the Concorde Agreement, which guarantees payments worth millions and would have secured the future of the team," Sauber told Autosport. "I am incredibly disappointed and disconsolate. For me this is the bitterest day in my 40-year career in motor sport. It is also a devastating setback for the team.
Ya, my bad. I posted it in the wrong thread.
F1’s loss, sportscar’s gain?? Sauber does have a history with endurance racing.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sauber-Mercedes.jpg
I raced karts in my misspent youth. I’ve seen video of Schumacher driving a kart - he would have slaughtered me. It was like he had made some Faustian deal for that kind of talent.
Team US F1 determined to use home talent
The US-based Formula One team due to join the grid next season say they are determined to stick to their guns and use American drivers, despite being approached by experienced names from other countries with substantial financial backing.
"We've been offered well over three-quarters of our racing budget by two drivers already, neither of whom have raced in Formula One but both have won races in GP2," Team US F1 co-founder Peter Windsor told Sports Illustrated magazine.
"Both of them have massive sponsorship they can bring us from their home country. (Team co-founder) Ken (Anderson) and I have got to be very strong, look one another in the eye and say, 'No, we're not going to accept that money, we're not going to hire those guys because we're going to remain true to our convictions.
The 2009 Formula One season has already had its fair share of major stories, but all are set to be surpassed by Michael Schumachers planned comeback in the forthcoming European Grand Prix, replacing Felipe Massa. One man who knows all about comebacks is Niki Lauda, who walked away from the sport in 1979, only to return two seasons later and ultimately win a third world title. We got his take on Schumachers prospects
Wonder who is at the top of the list? Patrick (Ugh), Speed, Juan Pablo, etc., etc...
It won’t be Juan, he’s Columbian. He’s looking for an American. I have no idea where he will find him (or her). The defunct A1GP had some young American drivers in it, but I have no idea how good they really were. Andretti & Rahal (the youngin’s) have good pedigree, but that doesn’t translate into good F1 drivers. I’d like to see Rahal’s kid, he’s got a good temperment. I hope Windsor pulls this off and that F1 doesn’t implode before it happens.
FYI, the ALMS race is on your NBC affliate today. Check your local listings (2:30PM in the WashDC region). That is the sportscar hijack post or ping or whatever of the day. :-)
it won’t be Patrick either...good name mediocre racer....I would like to say I’m partial to Rahal but he’s done relatively little in one year of CC and two in the IRL...
just for sh!ts and giggles I’d put AJ Almindinger in the car for a test....
Oh yeah, Almindinger. I forgot about him. There is a kid named Sumerton (I think thats his name). He raced in the defunct A1GP for a bit. He was pretty good. I don’t have any idea where he is now.
how ‘bout parnelli jones? oops!......
Schumacher cans Formula One return
After much media hype Michael Schumacher has announced that he will not be returning to the sport to replace the injured Felipe Massa in Valencia as hoped due to his ongoing neck injury.
“Yesterday evening, I had to inform Ferrari President Luca di Montezemolo and Team Principal Stefano Domenicali that unfortunately I’m not able to step in for Felipe, Schumacher stated on his personal website. I really tried everything to make that temporary comeback possible, however, much to my regret it didn’t work out.
Unfortunately we did not manage to get a grip on the pain in the neck which occurred after the private F1-day in Mugello, even if medically or therapeutically we tried everything possible.
Schumacher had been expected to test the F2007 again this week ahead of making the final decision in conjunction with his doctors regarding his return.
The consequences of the injuries caused by the bike-accident in February, fractures in the area of head and neck, unfortunately have turned out to be still too severe, he continued.
As there were no improvements after the day in Mugello, I decided at short notice on Sunday to do that thorough examination already yesterday.
“I am disappointed to the core. I am awfully sorry for the guys of Ferrari and for all the fans which crossed fingers for me. I can only repeat that I tried everything that was within my power. All I can do now is to keep my fingers crossed for the whole team for the coming races.”
With Schumacher now out of the running, the team will be busy trying to find a suitable replacement and may be forced to field test and reserve driver Marc Gene or Luca Badoer.
© CAPSIS International
major bummer....if the FIA does not rescind the Renault suspension for the Valencia GP there are going to be a LOT of angry people in the stands...
Unless they suit Alonso in Red ... LOL .. but that's not going to happen this time
I was really looking forward to seeing Michael race again
Noooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was looking forwarding to seeing him go at it again.
Cry me a River Ferrari. Maybe Ferrari has a test driver? Maybe Alonso will step into the Ferrari for the race?
I am upset I was really looking forward to seeing Schumacher again. F1 seems to have the same doldroms as cycling did when Lance retired.
Chode...please hit the rest of the list as I can’t open my mail from the office....
Renault win Valencia appeal
Monday 17th August 2009
Renault and Fernando Alonso have won an appeal against a one-race ban, clearing them to take part in Sunday’s European Grand Prix.
The French team were punished after allowing Alonso to leave the pit lane with a loose wheel at last month’s Hungarian Grand Prix.
The wheel came off and bounced across the track at the July 26 race, with race stewards subsequently ruling that the team’s pit crew knew the wheel was not properly secured and failed to tell the driver.
Renault were hopeful the team’s suspension would be lifted - and on Monday motorsport’s governing body the FIA overturned the ban and instead decided to fine the team just over £30,000.
A statement on the FIA’s official website read: “Renault admitted to the court that they breached the sporting regulations, in that they failed to ensure that (the) car complied with the conditions for safety throughout practice and the race, and that they released the car after a pit stop when it was unsafe to do so.
“However, it requested the court to reconsider the severity of the sanction imposed by the stewards.
“Having heard the arguments of the parties, the court have decided as follows:
1) To allow the appeal and overturn the sanction imposed by the Stewards in the contested decision.
2) To issue a reprimand and impose a fine of US$50,000 (£30,600) upon Renault.
“The reasons for this decision will be published in a full judgment in the coming days.”
With the ban overturned Alonso will now race at his home grand prix in Valencia, which is likely to prove highly popular with the Spanish crowd.
The incident happened the day after Felipe Massa was involved in an horrific incident which left him with life-threatening injuries.
The Ferrari driver needed surgery on his skull after being struck by an object dislodged from the Brawn GP car of Rubens Barrichello during qualifying at the Hungaroring.
The previous week, 18-year-old Formula Two driver Henry Surtees - the son of 1964 F1 champion John Surtees - died after being struck on the head by a wheel and tyre while travelling at 120mph at Brands Hatch.
this is not a surprise....tickets sales were down but I’m sure the Schumacher news propped them up....once Schumi pulled out they had to reverse this...