Amazing how the left needs to bash Bush (makes a convenient distraction from health care, I suppose)
I suspect Chirac had his face buried in his mistress’ chest at the time and didn’t hear things correctly....
And we are to believe Chirac because...?
Another top secret conversation revealed by an out-of-office loser.
I miss President Bush...I never knew how much I would miss his solid leadership. I felt safe and never once did I worry about losing our freedoms.
No way no how. Totally out of character. Bush was convinced about the need for aggressive war on terror, but he was a geopolitical pragmatist.
Nice to see W is a fan of Joel Rosenberg’s novels.
You are always going to have some derranged fool saying BS like this but the real question is why the media publishes it.
Also, Dwight Eisenhower repeatedly referred to the Nazi forces as “Huns” during the Second World War. Even though everybody knows that actual Huns hadn’t been heard from for over 1000 years. Honest. I am not making this up.
I don’t believe this for a second. I don’t even believe that Chirac said it. I think some writer is just making stuff up.
I find this story highly unlikely anyway, but the very notion that we (the US) have the duty to try to stop Gog and Magog, or that we are even capable of doing anything to impede the coming Armageddon, is preposterous.
God’s plans are not alterable.
I smell BS. Why?
Because Gog and Magog are predicted in the Bible. That means (for a believer) it will happen. It is just a matter of time. Humans can’t prevent it.
Bush saying “We’ve got to stop Gog and Magog” would be the same as him saying “We’ve got to twart God’s prophecies.”
Don’t see it.
1) I’m pretty sure President Bush knows his Bible better than this.
2) How would this qualify as “deranged”? Because the writer doesn’t believe the Bible?
The author insists on using the terms “bizarre” and “deranged” as if they were somehow a given. If Bush had said the Four Horsemen were riding I don’t think anyone reasonable would look literally for four guys on horseback. There’s this wonderful linguistic construct called “metaphor” and it generally isn’t all that difficult to understand when somebody is using one. It is, however, easy to misrepresent if you want to make them look stupid.
Were the comments originally reported by African Press International?
What a crock.
Well, someone should ask Mr. Bush. He is an honest man.
Well..., in reading this...
Now out of office, Chirac recounts that the American leader appealed to their “common faith” (Christianity) and told him:
“Gog and Magog are at work in the Middle East. ... The biblical prophecies are being fulfilled. ... This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people’s enemies before a New Age begins.”
This bizarre — seemingly deranged — episode happened while the White House was assembling its “coalition of the willing” to unleash the Iraq invasion. Chirac says he was boggled by Bush’s call, and “wondered how someone could be so superficial and fanatical in their beliefs.”
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Recently, GQ magazine revealed that former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld attached warlike Bible verses and Iraq battle photos to war reports he hand-delivered to Bush. One declared: “Put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground.”
It’s awkward to say openly, but now-departed President Bush is a religious crackpot, an ex-drunk of small intellect who “got saved.” He never should have been entrusted with power to start wars.
I have to say that I’m pleased to find out, now, that President Bush actually knew about the Gog/Magog war of Ezekiel 38/39. I was doubtful that he knew of the Bible’s prophecies and/or took them into consideration. Apparently he did know something of them, and apparently (also) took them into consideration.
However, I’m still doubtful that President Bush may have fully understood them or was as appreciative of their certainty as those who know that God means what He says — are certain of them.
It would pay for more of our legislators and government officials to understand and be appreciative of what the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob says about the events over there in the land of Israel and the surrounding nations.
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I can’t fully understand (from this little snippet) exactly what President Bush did understand about the Gog/Magog War (as that is coming up in the near future), so I would want to know more of his understanding about it, before I would want to comment more on what he said. But, just the fact that he *mentioned it* is amazing, showing that he knew *something* about it. That’s probably a lot more than other Presidents... LOL...
You said — Amazing how the left needs to bash Bush (makes a convenient distraction from health care, I suppose)
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Actually, I find that quite enlightening and I’m quite pleased to hear that President Bush even considered the Gog/Magog invasion of the Middle East in his considerations in regards to war in Iraq. I haven’t heard that before and I’m glad to hear that now.
So, I’ll have to thank them for bringing that information out (although I read that it was brought up earlier... but I didn’t see it...).
If those people who brought it up want to use that information as a “negative” piece of news, I — on the other hand — use that as a “positive” piece of news, something that I didn’t know about President Bush, beforehand...
Him and other UN types are pretty fanatical in their faith in humanistic beliefs, too. They have a blind spot there, and are never called on it. Believing the Bible, that man's origins are ultimately from God and mediately a mystery, is every bit as valid as believing that the earth - indeed the universe - arose spontaneously and developed through unguided random processes. In fact, the more humble biblical view is easily the more plausible.
As far as Gog and Magog goes - I wish President Bush had not said that to the French leader, since it presupposes a particular subset of prophetical interpretation.