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Article was written in July 09, but appeared, in slightly altered form, in the 8/13/09 op-ed page of the Easton (PA) Express-Times.

Amazing how the left needs to bash Bush (makes a convenient distraction from health care, I suppose)

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1 posted on 08/13/2009 12:07:59 PM PDT by P.O.E.
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To: P.O.E.

Sorry, Jacques Chirac is not a credible source on this.


46 posted on 08/13/2009 12:46:00 PM PDT by Antoninus (Sarah Palin will soon have more fans on Facebook than most major newspapers have readers.)
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To: P.O.E.

How could President Bush believe that Russia and Iran were working together, thats insanity!

Pray for America


57 posted on 08/13/2009 12:54:51 PM PDT by bray (The messiah has no robe)
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To: P.O.E.

That is hard to believe. Does this refer to the same man that signed over authority to the WHO to quarantine America in the event of a pandemic? Could they be possibly be referring to the same man that signed executive orders creating the most invasive Homeland Security directives including martial law with unlimited presidential authority and no congressional oversight then handed all of it over to a communist? I know that they are not talking about the man that built the North American Union using a shadow government with no congressional oversight (other than Tom Tancredo)against the will of the American people. How about the man that had a financial terrorist attack happen on his watch on September 12, 2008 that precipitated the collapse of our(and the world’s) economy? Sounds like a fairy tale to me.


61 posted on 08/13/2009 12:58:15 PM PDT by Big_Harry ( Thank God I am an "Infidel"!)
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President Chirac confirmed the nutty event in a long interview..... - Really? Then why is this interview not included? Or at least an extended excerpt? Why this single quote without context? Hmm?
63 posted on 08/13/2009 1:03:22 PM PDT by bobsatwork
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To: P.O.E.

Amazing how the left needs to bash Bush (makes a convenient distraction from health care, I suppose)

Bush bashing is a distraction from an the self hating, self destructive, mean spirited selves.


68 posted on 08/13/2009 1:12:54 PM PDT by Bitsy
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To: P.O.E.

Chirac is probably suffering from demetia atleast that was one of the things that were said about him in his last losing campaign.


69 posted on 08/13/2009 1:13:16 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan; topcat54
"Gog and Magog are at work in the Middle East. ... The biblical prophecies are being fulfilled. ... This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people's enemies before a New Age begins." ....

The French revelation jibes with other known aspects of Bush's renowned evangelical certitude. For example, a few months after his phone call to Chirac, Bush attended a 2003 summit in Egypt. The Palestinian foreign minister later said the American president told him he was "on a mission from God" to defeat Iraq. At that time, the White House called this claim "absurd."

Recently, GQ magazine revealed that former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld attached warlike Bible verses and Iraq battle photos to war reports he hand-delivered to Bush. One declared: "Put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground."

Knowing the Lindsay take on Gog/Magog from years of immersion in it, I can tell you that the above is not it. They would no more say that we "erase his enemies before a new age begins", than they'd say that "we save our brothers by feeding them Big Macs."

Bush is an episcopal turned methodist: this really sounds like Wesley's post-millenialism. WE are building/preparing God's Kingdom here on earth.

We are not this story's author, who fills time and eternity with his purpose. Yet his purpose is achieved in our duty, and our duty is fulfilled in service to one another.

Never tiring, never yielding, never finishing, we renew that purpose today, to make our country more just and generous, to affirm the dignity of our lives and every life.

This work continues. This story goes on. And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.

The above, from Pres Bush's 1st inaugural address quotes John Page about the angel riding the whirlwind, but it is an acknowledgement that God writes history.

I'm tempted to believe to a large degree that the Gog/Magog reference is true, but that it's meaning is lost if viewed through a dispensationalist lens. Bush, I'm betting, was a 3-4 point calvinist, post-millenialist.

72 posted on 08/13/2009 1:17:30 PM PDT by xzins (Chaplain Says: Jesus befriends all who ask Him for help.)
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I’ll believe this as soon as Bush confirms it.


73 posted on 08/13/2009 1:18:57 PM PDT by Sloth (Irony: Freepers who call Ron Paul a "nut" but swallow all the birth certificate conspiracy crap.)
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To: P.O.E.

My bet ...it did not happen


74 posted on 08/13/2009 1:19:39 PM PDT by woofie
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I would hope that Bush knows that “Gog” is the name of the fallen angel ‘Prince’ that rules that area, and human efforts to fight him all are doomed to failure.


83 posted on 08/13/2009 1:27:26 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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This reminds me strongly of the leftist smear against James Watt:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/20/AR2005052001333.html


88 posted on 08/13/2009 1:34:54 PM PDT by Sloth (Irony: Freepers who call Ron Paul a "nut" but swallow all the birth certificate conspiracy crap.)
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Jimmy needs to quit sniffing his dry erase markers.


102 posted on 08/13/2009 2:06:28 PM PDT by Hoffer Rand (There ARE two Americas: "God's children" and the tax payers)
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Ahh yes.. let's bash Bush and the Iraq War. This is way past "getting old".
133 posted on 08/13/2009 4:26:00 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Ask His forgiveness. Don't wait.)
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"Gog and Magog are at work in the Middle East. ... The biblical prophecies are being fulfilled. ... This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people's enemies before a New Age begins."

Gee. What I was hearing was that Dubya had surrounded himself with "replacement theologians" who didn't believe all that stuff. Really.

Bad eschatology has consequences.

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151 posted on 08/13/2009 5:47:02 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("Dispensationalists say the darndest things!")
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well, we’ll just see how things turn out, won’t we?


152 posted on 08/13/2009 6:08:47 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (STOP OBAMA NOW.)
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Permit me a one-word response:
HORSESHIT
159 posted on 08/13/2009 7:19:06 PM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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Chiraq? He was one of the European leaders found prostituting himself to Sadam Hussein in exchange for oil vouchers under the UN “Oil for Food” scam.

Got anyone with some credibility to back this BS story up?


169 posted on 08/13/2009 8:50:56 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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My son, Mr. Seminary trained theologian, said the same thing....we all worship the same god..
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That can be taken to mean that the Lord is God of the whole Earth- whether some of these dopes know it or not.

They may hate Jesus and have evil in their hearts, but the Lord is in charge.


172 posted on 08/13/2009 10:19:43 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (A woman will be the next President; I hope it's Palin instead of HRC.)
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Is there any place OTHER than in the Leftists’ blogs and editorials that CONFIRMS that Chirac actually made this claim?


225 posted on 08/19/2009 7:16:08 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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