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Why Exercise Won't Make You Thin
TIME ^ | Aug. 09, 2009 | By John Cloud

Posted on 08/17/2009 10:30:29 AM PDT by BellStar

As I write this, tomorrow is Tuesday, which is a cardio day. I'll spend five minutes warming up on the VersaClimber, a towering machine that requires you to move your arms and legs simultaneously. Then I'll do 30 minutes on a stair mill. On Wednesday a personal trainer will work me like a farm animal for an hour, sometimes to the point that I am dizzy — an abuse for which I pay as much as I spend on groceries in a week. Thursday is "body wedge" class, which involves another exercise contraption, this one a large foam wedge from which I will push myself up in various hateful ways for an hour. Friday will bring a 5.5-mile run, the extra half-mile my grueling expiation of any gastronomical indulgences during the week.

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I tried to tell this to all my friends when I lost a lot of weight 4 years ago. Yes I walk 3 to 5 miles 5 days and left weights 5 day's a week for Health . Weight loss IT'S THE FOOD
1 posted on 08/17/2009 10:30:30 AM PDT by BellStar
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To: BellStar

There is a difference between being thin and being in shape.

If you want to get thin, do like some women, smoke a pack a day.


2 posted on 08/17/2009 10:33:46 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: BellStar

When I was overweight, I could run flat-out for pretty much as long as I wanted, above the recommended heart rate. Never lost weight doing it. Running is way overrated.


3 posted on 08/17/2009 10:35:14 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: BellStar

Both help. Exercise and diet together are my secrets to having a youthful, lithe, strong body in my mind forties. One without the other has never brought long term results as much as the combination. This article is really lacking a full spectrum picture. I love how you mention ALL the exercise you did and then said it was the food. It is about calories in and calories out. They work together. Your comment is a good example.


4 posted on 08/17/2009 10:36:04 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Tublecane

“When I was overweight, I could run flat-out for pretty much as long as I wanted, above the recommended heart rate”

I meant to add: on those eliptical machines in the gym. I find it somewhat more taxing to run on the real ground.


5 posted on 08/17/2009 10:37:26 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Perdogg

LOL. Good point.


6 posted on 08/17/2009 10:37:40 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: BellStar
I'm a personal trainer and as such I'm on a lot of e-mail lists from various experts. There are two guys that did a video called 'you can't out train a bad diet'. It shows one guy gunning it on the treadmill (Craig Ballantyne) why the other guy stands next to him eating a pizza. In the time it took the eating guy to consume 800 calories, the treadmill guy had only burned something like 42 calories.

Here it is:

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQbuzsY_34Q)

7 posted on 08/17/2009 10:38:48 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: BellStar

Diet and exercise go hand in hand. Trying to lose weight on just one or the other usually gets minimal results.


8 posted on 08/17/2009 10:39:00 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Resident Obama: Not a President, not a Citizen, living here but from somewhere else...)
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To: BellStar
Why Exercise Won't Make You Thin

Exercise and eating less will. I'm living proof.
9 posted on 08/17/2009 10:39:41 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: tsmith130

That is probably one of the best ways to demonstrate the differnce between reducing intake and burning intake.


10 posted on 08/17/2009 10:41:47 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Kenya? Kenya? Kenya just show us the birth certificate?)
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To: Perdogg

If you want to get thin, do like some women, smoke a pack a day.

OR

Do what the hollywood celebs do.....snort coke..


11 posted on 08/17/2009 10:43:48 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Tublecane

Rush Limbaugh said it best when he was dieting, and I paraphrase: You don’t lose weight by exercising. You lose weight by consuming fewer calories than your body burns.

If your weight is stable and you start running a couple of miles a day, without changing your diet, you WILL lose weight. This goes for working out as well. And if you build muscle with these activities, your body will be consuming more calories for the simpler reason that muscle consumes calories, and the more muscle you have, the more calories you consume, all other things being equal.


12 posted on 08/17/2009 10:44:37 AM PDT by RobRoy (This too will pass. But it will hurt like a you know what.)
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To: mysterio

More accurate: Why Exercise ALONE Won’t Make You Thin


13 posted on 08/17/2009 10:45:23 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Tublecane
Running is way overrated.

I will also absolutely wreck your knees. Sled pulls, tire flips, sledge hammer work, sandbags, heavy bag work is the best cardio anyone can do.
14 posted on 08/17/2009 10:46:22 AM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: BellStar
I have a great piece of exercise equipment in my house. I love it. Use it every day. Its do enjoyable I will get on it for several hours at a time.

What is this wonderful piece of equipment you ask? I shall tell you.

The Couch Machine!

Its like Bowflex, but better!

15 posted on 08/17/2009 10:46:34 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: BellStar

I notice the meat of the article goes counter to the headline. Most of their exercisers eat, and eat junk, after the exercise. Yes diet is an important part of the equation, but exercise CAN help you drop weight as long as you don’t take the diet soda drinker approach (”I exercise/ drink diet soda so now I can eat that extra BigMac and apple pie”). It’s got to be part of a whole body whole mind whole life change.


16 posted on 08/17/2009 10:48:03 AM PDT by discostu (Somehow mister reliable was not where he was supposed to be)
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To: BellStar
Spot on.As Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said when he was part of the fitness commission -”If you want to lose weight - don't feed the food”. However, besides the calorie intake, exercise is essential.I bike over 100 miles a week and lift also but if I want to drop weight I cut back the food intake.
17 posted on 08/17/2009 10:48:50 AM PDT by Apercu ("A man's character is his fate" - Heraclitus)
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To: Tublecane
When I was overweight, I could run flat-out for pretty much as long as I wanted, above the recommended heart rate. Never lost weight doing it. Running is way overrated.

I've been running 1000 miles a year for 15 years. I started out at 205 pounds and I quickly brought my weight down to 165 pounds which I have maintained.

I still eat like a pig.

18 posted on 08/17/2009 10:49:08 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: tsmith130

There are always exceptions.

Have you seen Michael Phelps “diet”.

He chows down about 12,000 calories a day and most of it is junk food because, if you tried to eat 12,000 calories of salads, you would probably explode your stomach.


19 posted on 08/17/2009 10:49:17 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: tsmith130

Most people have no idea what their exact caloric intake is and absolutely no idea what the macro-nutrient breakdown is for what they eat throughout the day.

I’ve gained weight while weight lifting and I’ve lost it rapidly while weight lifting. It all depends on knowing what your body’s metabolic rate is and knowing exactly what you’re eating.

It really is basic physics at work, but you have to do your homework to be successful at controlling body compostion.


20 posted on 08/17/2009 10:49:58 AM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: RobRoy
Rush Limbaugh said it best when he was dieting, and I paraphrase: You don’t lose weight by exercising. You lose weight by consuming fewer calories than your body burns.

Yes. Your body burns more calories when you exercise AND when you eat less.

21 posted on 08/17/2009 10:51:54 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: staytrue

That’s Olympic Athlete training...whole different ballgame. Not to mention his age! (Yes, I’m jealous!)


22 posted on 08/17/2009 10:52:25 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: BellStar
This should not even be a question. Its the energy equation, plain and simple. Energy in vs energy out. Exercise by itself wont do it if you continue gorging yourself.

Weight loss is best achieved by restricting calories, plain and simple. For ALOT of people, this alone would go far in making them healthier, simply because so many people are obese.

Exercise is great, however, in that it adds its own benefits, and if you REALLY want to change your shape, you need to do some kind of resistance exercise to shape, tone, and grow the muscles.

23 posted on 08/17/2009 10:53:17 AM PDT by Paradox (ObamaCare = Logan's Run ; There is no Sanctuary!)
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To: mysterio
Exercise and eating less will. I'm living proof.

As am I! 110 lbs. since October 2007! Diet is ABSOLUTELY THE #1 problem with the obesity epidemic, but eating healthier is only part of the equation. With exercise added to the mix, that fat loss is catalyzed ten-fold, and you don't get into the "I'm eating rabbit food but not losing weight" mentality and slip back into bad habits.

If two people cut their diets back to lean meats, lots of veggies and fruit, healthy fats, and low to no carbohydrates, they'll lose weight at a constant rate. If one of those people exercises for 30 minutes a day (walking around the block with the dog, swimming, riding a bike), they'll lose weight MUCH faster, and the person doing diet-only will look at them and think, "Gee, this doesn't work for me, I'm ordering General Tso's chicken tonight! Woe is me!"

I only know this, because I struggled for 15 years trying to lose weight with exercise alone, and I can attest that until I stopped eating 1 large cheese pizza every week, a gallon of ice cream, three to six twelve packs of ultra light beer a week, etc., I didn't shed a single pound. And sure, I chalked up the weight gain to muscle mass but the mirror tells the true story. B-cup man boobs and a 46 inch waist trimmed to no man boobs and a 38 inch waist... those are my trophies.

24 posted on 08/17/2009 10:53:34 AM PDT by rarestia ("One man with a gun can control 100 without one." - Lenin / MOLWN LABE!)
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To: FreeReign

that’s about 2.7 miles/day, correct?


25 posted on 08/17/2009 10:53:36 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: BellStar

It doesn’t matter what I eat or don’t eat. If I don’t exercise, I blow up like a balloon, not a look that I like. When I broke my foot last year I gained 15 pounds and I had to up the exercise to get rid of it as soon as it healed. It’s like brushing your teeth, you just have to do it.


26 posted on 08/17/2009 10:54:11 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: staytrue

yeah, and he burns at least 12,000/day. most of us burn about a 10th of that i would say.


27 posted on 08/17/2009 10:54:27 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: thefactor
that’s about 2.7 miles/day, correct?

I run about 6.5 miles three times a week. I ws up around 7.0 miles three times a week but I'm getting old.

28 posted on 08/17/2009 10:56:05 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Free Vulcan

My excercise/diet routine:

1) Hershel Walker workout—5,000 pushups a week in sets of 80

2) 30 miles a week at a 10:50 clip

3) 9 hours on the elliptcal machine

4) 1/2 hour of daily stretching

5) various weight training throughout the week

I love to excercise and look forward to it DAILY!!

Diet:

1) lean meats,fruits, and veggies

2) Less ingredeints the better

3) I avoid starchy carbs

4) ...and I take a two meals a week and eat whatever the hell I am craving.

However, according to the BMI charts,I measure a 25 which makes me overweight...


29 posted on 08/17/2009 10:56:32 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: staytrue

The real lesson from the Michael Phelps diet is why athletes get fat 5 minutes after they retire. Unless he’s very studious he’s going to keep eating like that after he hangs up the trunks, and gain about 20 pounds a month.


30 posted on 08/17/2009 10:58:51 AM PDT by discostu (Somehow mister reliable was not where he was supposed to be)
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To: BellStar

It must be different for different people. Years ago, I taught aerobic dance 5 days a week. I ate whatever I wanted, and I kept my weight at 117 with 17% body fat. Literally, I ate ANYTHING in ANY amount. My diet was terrible. I quit teaching aerobics and stopped exercising. My weight ballooned. I have lost weight in years since then dieting, but it’s difficult to keep off.
I think it’s likely a combination, and calories do matter, however metabolisms are so different that some people CAN eat more calories than others and not gain the same amount of weight.
Light exercise probably doesn’t help much, for most people (altho it certainly doesn’t hurt).


31 posted on 08/17/2009 10:59:29 AM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: rarestia
I have also lost around 110. From about a 40 waist to 32.

I'll admit the maintenance phase has been the most challenging. But if I can help it, I'll never be fat again. I weigh daily and keep a public food diary. Helps a lot, and allows me to make my food choices for the day pretty effectively. I give myself a five pound range. If I'm at the bottom of that range, there's a good chance that will be the day I go buy a hamburger.

Like many Americans, I like fast food WAY too much. But everything in moderation, I suppose.
32 posted on 08/17/2009 10:59:54 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: FreeReign
i train other ways. my knees/shins/calves couldnt take all that pavement running.

i do plyometrics/kenpo/yoga as well as lacrosse leagues to keep my cardio up.

diet is extremely important though. when i eat like crap, i can see it.

33 posted on 08/17/2009 11:03:01 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: tsmith130

According to the NY Post, the Olympic swimming sensation eats... 12,000 calories per day.

Here’s what a days food intake looks like:

...three fried-egg sandwiches loaded with cheese, lettuce, tomatoes, fried onions and mayonnaise.
He follows that up with two cups of coffee, a five-egg omelet, a bowl of grits, three slices of French toast topped with powdered sugar and three chocolate-chip pancakes.

At lunch, Phelps gobbles up a pound of enriched pasta and two large ham and cheese sandwiches slathered with mayo on white bread - capping off the meal by chugging about 1,000 calories worth of energy drinks.

For dinner, Phelps really loads up on the carbs - what he needs to give him plenty of energy for his five-hours-a-day, six-days-a-week regimen - with a pound of pasta and an entire pizza.

Apparently he “washes all that down with another 1,000 calories worth of energy drinks


34 posted on 08/17/2009 11:03:38 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: BellStar

Fat doesn’t start to burn off fat until you have been working hard for about 3 hours. That is when your sugar reserves are gone. Watch “The Biggest Loser” on TV and you will see them working their butts off (literally) as they burn 6000-7000 Calories a day but take in only 1500.


35 posted on 08/17/2009 11:04:18 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Obamacare: all the efficiency of the DMV and all the compassion of the IRS.)
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To: BellStar

I combine exercise with eating and drinking. Lifting the donuts to my mouth and chewing is a lot of work. Also, always keep your beer glass full so that you lift more on each swig.


36 posted on 08/17/2009 11:04:29 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Brett66

It all depends on knowing what your body’s metabolic rate
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

How do you measure metabolic rate?


37 posted on 08/17/2009 11:09:07 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: thefactor
i train other ways. my knees/shins/calves couldnt take all that pavement running. i do plyometrics/kenpo/yoga as well as lacrosse leagues to keep my cardio up. diet is extremely important though. when i eat like crap, i can see it.

Yes diet is important. I would say it's half the battle.

38 posted on 08/17/2009 11:13:00 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: staytrue
five-hours-a-day, six-days-a-week regimen

There's the money line...and that's what I meant by Olympic Athlete TRAINING. I'll will give you that it seems like an unorthodox diet, but given the results, who am I to argue with it?

39 posted on 08/17/2009 11:14:48 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Fat doesn’t start to burn off fat until you have been working hard for about 3 hours

Uh...I'm not sure where you got that notion but it's wrong.

40 posted on 08/17/2009 11:16:31 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: tsmith130; Blood of Tyrants

Yeah, going hard for 3 hours is going to put your body in a catabolic state. That is not good, unless you want to be a stick with no muscle mass whatsoever.


41 posted on 08/17/2009 11:20:14 AM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: La Lydia

Lydia - I broke my foot last fall, too. And I live in a hillside home with many stairs. Unfun, to say the least! I cut back on my calories and still gained weight. It is obvious to me that exercise and proper diet go hand in hand.


42 posted on 08/17/2009 11:20:44 AM PDT by Island Girl
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To: GOP Poet
a youthful, lithe, strong body in my mind forties

Oh, sure. But litheness is the leading cause of jelliness in the spelling center of the brain. Always the first to go. ;^)

43 posted on 08/17/2009 11:21:01 AM PDT by LTCJ (God Save the Constitution - Tar & Feathers, The New Look for Summer '09)
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To: staytrue

I eat 12,000 calories a day but really don’t like to move much.


44 posted on 08/17/2009 11:22:18 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("If they taxed condoms and toilet paper, they'd have us coming and going." - Lazamataz, 2002)
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To: Perdogg
If you want to get thin, do like some women, smoke a pack a day.

Coupla grams of Pink Peruvian Flake a day will make you thin as a willow.

45 posted on 08/17/2009 11:22:55 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (I'm not a useless eater, I pay taxes to support them.)
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To: Perdogg
If you want to get thin, do like some women, smoke a pack a day.

If you want to get thin, do like some women, acquire a bad meth and heroin habit.

46 posted on 08/17/2009 11:23:52 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("If they taxed condoms and toilet paper, they'd have us coming and going." - Lazamataz, 2002)
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To: wintertime

I made a spreadsheet to do the calculations, but here’s the breakdown of it:

BMR= 66+(6.165 x weight in lbs.)+(12.7 x height in inches)-(6.8 x age)

Then take the BMR (Basal Metabolic Rate) and multiply by activity level:

1 -Sedentary-(do nothing all day but eat potato chips and watch TV)

1.2 -Very Light- (desk job, no training, some walking)

1.4 -Light (no training, job might require some light physical labor)

1.6 -Moderate -(a physically undemanding job, but training on a regular basis)

1.8 -High - (daily training plus a somewhat physically active job or lifestyle)

2 -Very High -(twice-a-day training, sports + training. or training + a very demanding job)

BMR x activity level = daily Energy Expenditure (DEE)

This will give you the amount of calories you will burn through during a day. Once you know this, you can have a good idea at what caloric levels will enable weight gain or loss.

The article that lays all of this out can be found here:

http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/nutrition_for_newbies_part_1&cr


47 posted on 08/17/2009 11:46:40 AM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: rarestia

Congratulations!

I’m down 50lbs since January now sitting in the low 190’s and a 34 inch waist but cannot seem to lose the last 15 lbs and associated love handles.

I run 5 miles 3 times a week and lift on the other days. I eat 6 meals a day and try to stay around 1500 to 1800 calories a day.

Those last few pounds are a bitch...


48 posted on 08/17/2009 11:47:31 AM PDT by TSgt (I long for Norman Rockwell's America.)
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To: Lazamataz
I eat 12,000 calories a day but really don’t like to move much.

I would have to really cut back to get to 12,000 cal/day. I don't think I am ready to make that kind of sacrifice.

49 posted on 08/17/2009 11:48:56 AM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org/)
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To: central_va
I would have to really cut back to get to 12,000 cal/day. I don't think I am ready to make that kind of sacrifice.

It's not hard; just lose 5 cheesecakes and the steaming hot gallon of bacon grease.

50 posted on 08/17/2009 11:51:04 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("If they taxed condoms and toilet paper, they'd have us coming and going." - Lazamataz, 2002)
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