Posted on 08/22/2009 4:26:09 PM PDT by apillar
ATHENS Ohio (WSAZ) -- Barking up the wrong tree -- that's what some say one man did when he threatened a local police dog. But, it's what happened after the comment that's got some people biting and others scratching their heads.
In response to the dismissal, its a doggone shame, said Robert Toy, an Athens defense attorney.
Toy is amusing himself with a case he says has gone to the dogs.
Its a silly charge, he said.
We take this charge very seriously, Athens County Sheriff Pat Kelly said.
The incident started at a construction site across the street from the sheriff's department in downtown Athens. That's where Mark Isaac and another construction worker made comments about Esko, the Athens County Sheriff's drug dog.
The one construction worker said to my client, That dog is coming to get you. My client, who was about 150 feet away on the second floor, made a comment back, Toy said.
He said, Im going to kill that dog and the deputy overheard him, Kelly said.
The deputy walked across the street and arrested my client, charged him with a felony and put him in jail, Toy said.
Esko is an officer of the law and you cant threaten any kind of officer whether they be a person or a dog. My deputy felt a real threat was being made against his dog, who is a police dog, and so he consulted with the prosecutor and they agreed charges need to be filed against him, Kelly said.
Isaac, who is 37, was charged with aggravated menacing -- a felony punishable by a year in jail and a $2,500 fine. He's free on a $5,000 bond. Kelly said the case was dismissed in municipal court, but could go to the grand jury. Toy said if that happened, an interpreter might be needed.
Under the constitution, I would have the right to interview the witness, in this case, Esko the dog. Ive submitted a motion for an interpreter, my dog, Elbee the Doggie. I know when he wants to go for a walk because he brings me his leash. When he wants to play ball, he comes to me with his ball in his mouth, Toy said.
I dont appreciate the attorney using humor in what is a very serious matter, said Sheriff Kelly.
The sheriff said he's hoping Isaac receives some kind of charge. Late Friday afternoon, he found out why Isaac may have been angry at the dog. According to Athens City Police, one of their dogs happened to be searching his hotel room the night before and found an ounce of marijuana.
Kelly said he thinks Issac mistook Esko, the sheriff's dog for the city police dog and directed his anger toward him. We'll keep you posted on what happens.
I thought one had to meet minimum requirements to become a police officer. And if a dog can qualify as a police officer then why have requirements.
Now this is a clear example of Police stupidity! Wheres Captain Kenya
You can’t have A Dog of a Peasant threatening the overlords... Or their Dogs!
Given the testosterone-fueled machismo of steroid-pumped LEOs these days, the guy is lucky he just got arrested.
I’m surprised he wasn’t tazed, slam-dunked into the hood of a nearby car and handcuffed.
That remark in itself shows utter stupidity. That dog is NOT an officer of the law. The dog is a tool that is used by law enforcement officers. The dog does not carry a badge, has not sworn an oath, etc. etc. etc.
Now I like dogs and cats and other furry animals, but let’s get real here.
please explain.
http://www.policek9.com/html/statutes.html#Ohio
In fact I'd countersue under 18USC242 for an Intentional Deprivation of Civil Rights Under False Color of Authority with the Special Circumstance of being armed while doing it.
I'd own this cop, his wife, his kids, his house, the PD, and the entire Municipality.
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Actually police dogs are issued badges and are generally considered the equal of police officers. Most departments also consider their K-9 dogs to be sworn officers of the law and if they are killed in the line of duty, they are given a full police funeral. The intentional harming of a K-9 police dog is a felony and the killing of one could result in a murder charge. In fact, in states with a death penalty, it can be considered a capitol offense - although I don't believe a death sentence was ever carried out for the murdering of a police dog.
It does require a lot of training for a canine to make the force and once sworn in, the canine is considered to be part of the force just like any human officer and they are accorded all privileges and benefits thereof.
I know this might sound a little hokey to some of you but most police departments take their canine partners very seriously.
I thought my comment was self explanatory. The dog is not a law enforcement officer by any stretch of the imagination because a dog is property and has no rights. Any damage done to a dog is damage to property.
You can dress a dummy in a police uniform, hang a badge on it, strap a pistol to its waist, but that will not make it a cop.
In this case, no damage was done to the property so there is no case.
While killing a police dog may indeed be a felony, I seriously doubt it would be prosecuted as murder. You would have to show me a specific case before I believe that.
Again, dogs, cats, pigeons, gerbils, etc., are chattel property and do not have rights as we understand them -- as much as that disappoints PETA.
The fact that police departments want to be cutsie about it and give them badges does not make them law enforcement officers.
They are tools, just as guns, radios, computers, cars and shoelaces are. No more, no less.
Cool! now that dogs can be issued badges and are generally considered the equal of police officers, in the eyes of the law, I’m going to buy my pet ferret a calculator and declare him a Certified Public Accountant. I think my cat has always had secret desire to be a long haul truck driver as well...
I guess just about ANYONE or ANYTHING can become a police officer these days.
And he will lose his 2A rights.
If you google police dog/drug dog training, the requirements and training, the expense, the skills of the dog, etc. will become more clear to you. Police/military/drug dogs will, without thinking, give up their lives for their human partners.
Or, you can just ignore all that, and keep thinking the way you do.
On vacation in my state the lazy sack of plop.
Last May, a police officer in New Orleans left his dog(Primo)/partner in a locked vehicle with the windows rolled up. The temperature that day was high enough to kill the dog. The officer was not charged. Why not?
Yup. And the response of the defense counsel is ridiculous in a willfully obtuse way. The dog is not the witness, the human police officer is.
I don’t know anything about that. Got a link?
Whose money do these union people spend for all the dog stuff like badges and full honor funerals and so on?
Taking just a quick look it seems that no charges were filed, I don’t know about the other two dogs that died in their canine unit but I get the impression no charges were filed in those deaths either.
The police dog must be on the payroll.
I’d like to hear from the dog himself on the stand if he felt threatened, and pull his personnel records to see what score he got on the test for his rank.
Animal control can come and take away my dog or yours based on a false charge from a neighbor and put the dog down... when cops stop making games out of shooting OUR dogs on sight when serving warrants and such then I’ll GIVE A SH*T ABOUT “OFFICER” DOGGIE.
Police dogs should only be used to find people in collapsed buildings. Using them for catching criminals is dumb and dangerous for the dogs. Criminals have guns. Dogs have teeth. Bullets are faster than teeth.
Too, funny so he is really fulfilling his Ramadmadingdong obligations with the rich and famous how touching.
You have anger issues I am not able to help you with.
These 3 people are insane. They need to be in the loony bin.
Thanks. I read some of the articles, sounds like Jason Lewis is not out of the woods yet.
They also are used in bomb-sniffing, drug-sniffing, finding lost humans...
This is a spoof right?
Citizen status below a dog.
“Drug” sniffing is a useless waste of resources. People finding seems a legitimate use of the dogs.
Whatever.
It has been a month since the Chief announced no charges, it probably means that he is out of the woods but there may be some scrutiny because they are losing a lot of cops.
>”WDSU.com
updated 8:49 a.m. PT, Sat., July 25, 2009
NEW ORLEANS - WDSU .com
New Orleans Police Superintendent Warren Riley said Wednesday that the officer in charge of the K-9 that died after being left inside a police car is not likely to face charges.”<
“””According to WWL-TV, Goyenche’s letter to Cannizzaro also asks that the office investigate the deaths of K-9 Phantom, who died after falling 18 floors down an elevator shaft in training exercise, and K-9 Carlos, who died from heart worms.”””
ROTFLMAO!!!
“It does require a lot of training for a canine to make the force and once sworn in, the canine is considered to be part of the force just like any human officer and they are accorded all privileges and benefits thereof.”
Just how do you swear in a dog? This doesn’t sound hokey. It sounds insane.
“Ohio Revised Code 2921.32.1.” is proof that Ohio has too many lawyers elected to too many offices.
Looks like too many animal whacko types, too.
I think a dog is an expensive, labor intensive tool for law enforcement and that there has to be severe felony penalties for blocking the dog doing it’s normal process (at least in most cases) and with out question to use deadly force to try and evade the dog from subduing you is an attack on the state similar to attacking an officer, but I do dislike it when they go too far in using human terms and imagery. I under stand the importance of ceremony and solemnity to maintain the difference between the status and position (and what it represents) of a police dog at work and the plain animal called a dog but police dogs do not need to be so humanized, after all we understand the status of a blind persons guide dog without going overboard.
However, the idea that a dog can be a “sworn law enforcement officer” is ridiculous in the face of it. Your point about guide dogs is well taken. They are useful and maybe even noble animals, but they are still animals and are considered property under the law.
They also are used in bomb-sniffing, drug-sniffing, finding lost humans...
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I don’t care what they’re used for ... actually I like your tone ,, they are OWNED and they are USED ....
What I and others are objecting to is the deification of officer Doggie to a rank equal to humans in the Police forces and ABOVE CITIZENS where he has special rights and protections. No anger issues here KJC1 , just legit grievances.
I want the badges and titles of honor AND special protections removed from WHAT IS PROPERTY.. I bet an ACLU type could get hundreds of thousands , perhaps millions of arrests thrown out across the country by proving that the thousands of “officer Doggies” across the country don’t meet published requirements for serving on the various police forces ,,, I guarantee that not one of them meets the minimum age requirements (usually 18 or 21) ,, none of then has a SS number ,, none of them filled out an application in their own hand, not one of them can speak English (or Spanish) , they DO NOT have reliable transportation to work, they cannot follow written instructions.
Well, then, you must be pleased that the owned, used, property of the officer who let his dog die in the hot vehicle has not resulted in charges.
All animals are property. All are subject to mankind, to be eaten, worked, used in whatever way they can, and no animal life equals the life of a human.
Some animals bond with humans, and are subjected in special ways to human needs. Some are highly trained for specific human uses. To honor those animals, in ways meaningful to the humans involved (whether or not the animal cares) serves to remind the humans of the animal’s value.
The threat to kill the dog is the same (to me) as the threat to destroy any police property, with the added problem that the property is sentient. To ignore the threat is to ally oneself with the likes of Michael Vicks.
Nobody I know “deifies” dogs. I own two, and they serve as part of my home’s security, out here in the boonies. They earn their living, keeping predators away and deer out of my fruit trees and garden, and prowlers off the property day and night. I also have the usual country weapons; but I would find the weapons far easier to replace than the dogs, who know the property limits, who can discern strangers, who would give their lives for me because of their bond.
Again, no dog equals a human, in my opinion. But if some humans want to say that they do, because of the dog’s specialized training, intelligence, abilities, and usefulness, I will not argue with them.
Is a police dog worth more than, say, a tweeker? Is a guide dog worth more than a gang member?
Police dogs are not pets, and are not treated like pets.
That is a trait of ALL dogs, not just Police/military dogs. I love dogs. Some dogs are better companionship than a person and a lot more loyal.
And YES, just about ANYONE or ANYTHING can become a police officer these days.
Nobody I know deifies dogs.
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The police do , officer doggie has more rights than you do. if you’re OK being subject to , and treated as less human than a dog so be it.. if officer doggie sniffs your crotch at the airport and you smack his nose let me know how it turns out for you.
Okay, I have a great idea: you keep your opinions, and I’ll keep mine. How does that sound?
I like expressing my opinions on an internet forum.
As did we both. However, I doubt either of us has had our opinions changed by the other.
Fine by me.
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