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1 posted on 08/23/2009 11:37:29 AM PDT by pabianice
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Affirmative action policy?


2 posted on 08/23/2009 11:39:41 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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Shrug. It is Massachusetts. They deserve it.


3 posted on 08/23/2009 11:42:22 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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I’m sure ‘the natives’ are thrilled. Meanwhile....back in REAL AMERICA...folks keep joining the bread lines.


4 posted on 08/23/2009 11:42:32 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.” -George Orwell)
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the look on all the libtards who voted for the One and now have to take the ferry to MV with the unwashed masses instead of flying would be priceless....


5 posted on 08/23/2009 11:44:04 AM PDT by GQuagmire
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To: pabianice
Probably on the First Lady's orders.


6 posted on 08/23/2009 11:45:28 AM PDT by McGruff (I have great health insurance and so does every member of Congress - Obama)
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This sounds like more than a little paranoid insecurity. Surely this administration, the Secret Service, and the FAA have enough continuity to know what is necessary and appropriate.


10 posted on 08/23/2009 11:53:37 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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What a dick!


11 posted on 08/23/2009 11:57:05 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: pabianice
Interesting that Nantucket isn't on the list. That's the only one that matters!

ML/NJ

13 posted on 08/23/2009 11:59:43 AM PDT by ml/nj
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As long as I can fly into Logan tomorrow morning.


14 posted on 08/23/2009 12:01:25 PM PDT by Mercat (Scary middle aged people take to the street)
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The smell of BO, and the little witch he's married to should make all decent folk steer clear anyway! Maybe all the fools that voted for the emperor might be disappointed?
17 posted on 08/23/2009 12:05:22 PM PDT by Issaquahking (Help Sarah Palin! go to - http://www.conservatives4palin.com - You know what to do!)
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Then, since President Bush radius of protection (air) was sometimes three miles and sometimes ten miles, and uhbama's is going to be a THIRTY MILE RADIUS which will negatively impact their economy up there (could not happen to a more arrogant group-but I am sorry for the guys who run their smaller airports and depend on this tourist season time for much of their livihood, and of course all of the pilots, etc that are impacted)...well, it would seem that uhbama must be much more HATED than President Bush.
18 posted on 08/23/2009 12:06:57 PM PDT by Republic (TORT REFORM....real reform...what are you waiting for democrats? Scared? lol)
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Sorry, but this claim is just plain incorrect.

The TFRs around Waco (during AF-1 arrival and departure) and Bush's ranch in Crawford were almost exactly the same as Obama's: 10 nautical mile no-fly zone, and a TFR out to 30 nautical miles.

See my previous post for the details and a diagram:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2320498/posts?page=108#108

One big difference: Pilots can indeed fly into and out of the airport within Obama's no-fly zone, albeit with some heavy restrictions. There was nothing like that in Bush's no-fly zone over his ranch, although there were no busy airports within the 10 NM ring.

19 posted on 08/23/2009 12:13:24 PM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.)
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They voted for ‘change’; let them enjoy it.


20 posted on 08/23/2009 12:24:40 PM PDT by PAR35
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Just sent this to my RINO Congressman:
I consider it obscene that the FAA has essentially banned non-commercial flight in the vicinity of Martha's Vineyard this week. If the President and his advisers are so afraid of The People, then he should just stay at the White House. This is OUR country.

I urge you to introduce legislation that will prohibit temporary airspace grabs like this for periods exceeding three hours in any two week period, except in cases where a national defense emergency has been declared by the President.

ML/NJ
22 posted on 08/23/2009 12:27:11 PM PDT by ml/nj
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Does he have a similar temporary driving restriction on Kennedies in the area? Or were they waiting to drive off that bridge when they came to it>
25 posted on 08/23/2009 12:35:19 PM PDT by KarlInOhio ("I can run wild for six months ...after that, I have no expectation of success" - Admiral Obama-moto)
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I’m surprised Obama doesn’t evacuate and lock down the Vineyard.


29 posted on 08/23/2009 12:50:10 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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THIN AIR: Western White House clips some flying plans(No Fly Zone at Western White House Expanded)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/758325/posts

It would appear that expanding the No Fly Zone around the President in nothing new.


33 posted on 08/23/2009 2:11:12 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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I recall AOPA filing a grievance against the TFR around Kennebunkport, ME... wonder if they have done so again?

Here's the full text of the current NOTAM (NOtice To AirMen #9/4835):

9/4835 (#14): PART 1 OF 5 MA.. FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS. MARTHA'S VINEYARD, MASSACHUSETTS, AUGUST 23-30, 2009 LOCAL PURSUANT TO 49 USC 40103(B), THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION (FAA) CLASSIFIES THE AIRSPACE DEFINED IN THIS NOTAM AS 'NATIONAL DEFENSE AIRSPACE'. ANY PERSON WHO KNOWINGLY OR WILLFULLY VIOLATES THE RULES CONCERNING OPERATIONS IN THIS AIRSPACE MAY BE SUBJECT TO CERTAIN CRIMINAL PENALTIES UNDER 49 USC 46307. PILOTS WHO DO NOT ADHERE TO THE FOLLOWING PROCEDURES MAY BE INTERCEPTED, DETAINED AND INTERVIEWED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT/USSS/SECURITY PERSONNEL. ANY OF THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL ACTIONS MAY ALSO BE TAKEN AGAINST A PILOT WHO DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OR ANY SPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS OR PROCEDURES ANNOUNCED IN THIS NOTAM: A) THE FAA MAY TAKE ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION, INCLUDING IMPOSING CIVIL PENALTIES AND THE SUSPENSION OR REVOCATION OF AIRMEN CERTIFICATES; OR B) THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT MAY PURSUE CRIMINAL CHARGES, INCLUDING CHARGES UNDER TITLE 49 OF THE UNITED STATES CODE, SECTION 46307; OR C) THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT MAY USE DEADLY FORCE AGAINST THE AIRBORNE AIRCRAFT, IF IT IS DETERMINED THAT THE AIRCRAFT POSES AN IMMINENT SECURITY THREAT. PURSUANT TO TITLE 14 CFR SECTION 91.141 OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS, SPECIAL SECURITY INSTRUCTIONS, ALL AIRCRAFT FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN A 30 NMR OF 412346N/0703646W OR THE MVY VOR/DME UP TO BUT NOT INCLUDING END PART 1 OF 5. WIE UNTIL UFN.

PART 2 OF 5 MA.. FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS. MARTHA'S VINEYARD, 18000 FT MSL EFFECTIVE 0908231430 UTC (1030 LOCAL 08/23/09) UNTIL 0908302100 UTC (1700 LOCAL 08/30/09). WITHIN A 10 NMR OF 412346N/0703646W OR THE MVY VOR/DME UP TO BUT NOT INCLUDING 18000 FT MSL EFFECTIVE 0908231430 UTC (1030 LOCAL 08/23/09) UNTIL 0908302100 UTC (1700 LOCAL 08/30/09). EXCEPT AS SPECIFIED BELOW AND/OR UNLESS AUTHORIZED BY ATC IN CONSULTATION WITH THE AIR TRAFFIC SECURITY COORDINATOR VIA THE DOMESTIC EVENTS NETWORK (DEN): A. ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS WITHIN THE 10 NMR AREA(S) LISTED ABOVE, KNOWN AS THE INNER CORE(S), ARE PROHIBITED EXCEPT FOR: APPROVED LAW ENFORCEMENT, MILITARY AIRCRAFT DIRECTLY SUPPORTING THE UNITED STATES SECRET SERVICE (USSS) AND THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, APPROVED AIR AMBULANCE FLIGHTS, AND REGULARLY SCHEDULED COMMERCIAL PASSENGER AND ALL-CARGO CARRIERS OPERATING UNDER ONE OF THE FOLLOWING TSA-APPROVED STANDARD SECURITY PROGRAMS/PROCEDURES: AIRCRAFT OPERATOR STANDARD SECURITY PROGRAM (AOSSP), FULL ALL-CARGO AIRCRAFT OPERATOR STANDARD SECURITY PROGRAM (FACAOSSP), MODEL SECURITY PROGRAM (MSP), TWELVE FIVE STANDARD SECURITY PROGRAM (TFSSP) ALL CARGO, OR ALL-CARGO INTERNATIONAL SECURITY PROCEDURE (ACISP) AND ARE ARRIVING INTO AND/OR DEPARTING FROM MARTHA'S VINEYARD AIRPORT (KMVY).. ALL EMERGENCY/LIFE SAVING FLIGHT (MEDICAL/LAW ENFORCEMENT/FIREFIGHTING) END PART 2 OF 5. WIE UNTIL UFN.

PART 3 OF 5 MA.. FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS. MARTHA'S VINEYARD, OPERATIONS MUST COORDINATE WITH ATC PRIOR TO THEIR DEPARTURE AT 508-968-7126 TO AVOID POTENTIAL DELAYS. B. ALL OTHER AIRCRAFT NOT OPERATING UNDER A TSA-APPROVED STANDARD SECURITY PROGRAM LISTED ABOVE AND ARRIVING KMVY MUST REQUEST A WAIVER AND BE SECURITY SCREENED AT A DESIGNATED GATEWAY AIRPORT. AIRCRAFT DEPARTING KMVY DURING THE TFR MUST ALSO REQUEST A WAIVER AND WILL BE SCREENED AT KMVY. C. AIRCRAFT REQUIRING A WAIVER TO ACCESS THIS SPECIAL EVENT TFR MUST APPLY USING THE SPECIAL EVENT WAIVER FORM AT HTTPS://WAIVER.C3.FAA.GOV/ (CASE SENSITIVE - USE LOWER CASE ONLY). GATEWAY AIRPORTS HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED TO ACCOMMODATE ARRIVING FLIGHTS INTO KMVY. AIRCRAFT MUST REGISTER LEAST 72 HOURS PRIOR TO THE PLANNED FLIGHT. D. GATEWAY AIRPORTS HAVE BEEN CREATED AT WESTCHESTER CO AIRPORT (KHPN), BARNSTABLE MUNICIPAL-BOARDMAN/POLAND AIRPORT (KHYA), AND GREEN STATE AIRPORT (KPVD) BY TSA TO ACCOMMODATE AIRCRAFT ARRIVING INTO KMVY DURING THE EFFECTIVE TIMES OF THIS TFR. TSA SCREENING WILL BE AVAILABLE AT THE GATEWAY AIRPORTS AND KMVY FROM 0908231000 UTC (08/23 0600 LOCAL) TO 0908310000 UTC (08/30 2000 LOCAL) DAILY. ALL PASSENGERS AND CREWMEMBERS MUST PROVIDE VALID GOVERNMENT-ISSUED PHOTO IDENTIFICATION TO THE TSA AT THE GATEWAY AIRPORT PRIOR TO DEPARTURE. SPECIAL ATC PROCEDURES AND ROUTES TO AND FROM THESE AIRPORTS MAY BE END PART 3 OF 5. WIE UNTIL UFN.

PART 4 OF 5 MA.. FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS. MARTHA'S VINEYARD, ASSIGNED PRIOR TO DEPARTURE FROM A GATEWAY AIRPORT. UPON DEPARTING THE GATEWAY AIRPORT, ALL AIRCRAFT MUST MAINTAIN RADIO CONTACT WITH ATC AND CONTINUOUSLY SQUAWK AN ATC-ASSIGNED DISCRETE TRANSPONDER CODE. INTERMEDIATE STOPS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED UNLESS AN EMERGENCY EXISTS. E. FOR OPERATIONS WITHIN THE AIRSPACE BETWEEN THE 10 NMR AND 30 NMR AREA(S) LISTED ABOVE, KNOWN AS THE OUTER RING(S): ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATING WITHIN THE OUTER RING(S) LISTED ABOVE ARE LIMITED TO AIRCRAFT ARRIVING OR DEPARTING LOCAL AIRFIELDS, AND WORKLOAD PERMITTING, ATC MAY AUTHORIZE TRANSIT OPERATIONS. AIRCRAFT MAY NOT LOITER. ALL AIRCRAFT MUST BE ON AN ACTIVE IFR OR VFR FLIGHT PLAN WITH A DISCRETE CODE ASSIGNED BY AN AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL (ATC) FACILITY. AIRCRAFT MUST BE SQUAWKING THE DISCRETE CODE PRIOR TO DEPARTURE AND AT ALL TIMES WHILE IN THE TFR AND MUST REMAIN IN TWO-WAY RADIO COMMUNICATIONS WITH ATC. F. THE FOLLOWING OPERATIONS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED WITHIN THIS TFR: FLIGHT TRAINING, PRACTICE INSTRUMENT APPROACHES, AEROBATIC FLIGHT, GLIDER OPERATIONS, PARACHUTE OPERATIONS, ULTRALIGHT, HANG GLIDING, BALLOON OPERATIONS, AGRICULTURE/CROP DUSTING, ANIMAL POPULATION CONTROL FLIGHT OPERATIONS, BANNER TOWING OPERATIONS, MODEL AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS, MODEL ROCKETRY AND UNMANNED AIRCRAFT SYSTEMS (UAS). G. FAA RECOMMENDS END PART 4 OF 5. WIE UNTIL UFN.

PART 5 OF 5 MA.. FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS. MARTHA'S VINEYARD, THAT ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATORS CHECK NOTAMS FREQUENTLY FOR POSSIBLE CHANGES TO THIS TFR PRIOR TO OPERATIONS WITHIN THIS REGION. H. THE SOSC, SPECIAL OPERATIONS SUPPORT CENTER, AVAILABLE 0600-2000 EST M-F, PHONE 202-267-8276, IS THE POINT OF CONTACT. THE CAPE TRACON, PHONE 508-968-7126, IS THE COORDINATION FACILITY. END PART 5 OF 5. WIE UNTIL UFN. [SEE GRAPHIC.]

AOPA has compiled plain-language guidance and a list of airports affected by NOTAM #9/4835:

30nm radius TFR
Location:
Centered on the MVY VOR
Surface to 17,999-ft-MSL

Times:
10:30 a.m. local Sunday, August 23 until 5:00 p.m. local Sunday, August 30

10nm radius no-fly zone
Location:
Centered on the MVY VOR
Surface to 17,999-ft-MSL

Times:
10:30 a.m. local Sunday, August 23 until 5:00 p.m. local Sunday, August 30

IMPACTED AIRPORTS:

Marthas Vineyard
MVY

Katama Airpark
1B2

Falmouth Airpark
5B6

Cape Cod
2B1

Barnstable Municipal-Boardman/Polando Field
HYA

New Bedford Regional
EWB

Nantucket Memorial
ACK

AOPA Security Notams and TFRs locator


34 posted on 08/23/2009 3:15:44 PM PDT by Rodamala
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