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17 Sept 2009 | US Navy Vet

Posted on 09/17/2009 6:15:30 AM PDT by US Navy Vet

Can this republic be saved or is it too far gone?


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: donttreadonme; liberty; lping; question

1 posted on 09/17/2009 6:15:31 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: US Navy Vet; tx_eggman

It will take a revolution. Hopefully not an armed one. But I’m not sure.


2 posted on 09/17/2009 6:16:19 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb (mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves)
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To: US Navy Vet

I’m not dead yet.


3 posted on 09/17/2009 6:17:13 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: US Navy Vet

If history can be considered reliable, probably not. :~(


4 posted on 09/17/2009 6:18:08 AM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (So the writer who breeds more words than he needs, is making a chore for the reader who reads.)
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To: US Navy Vet

I’ll take, “Too Far Gone” for $100 Alex.


5 posted on 09/17/2009 6:24:11 AM PDT by TSgt (I long for Norman Rockwell's America.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Yes.


6 posted on 09/17/2009 6:27:13 AM PDT by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Yes, if we can restore Congress’ fear of the people. At this point I think they consider us only an annoyance to them. I believe they think they can exhaust us with their broad and relentless assault on freedom.


7 posted on 09/17/2009 6:28:15 AM PDT by Never on my watch (Do you REALLY think Obama is just going to let us vote him out of office?)
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To: US Navy Vet

Yes.

Only the faint of heart would give up on this great nation and forget the sacrifices of the heros of the past.


8 posted on 09/17/2009 6:30:23 AM PDT by Keith Brown (Among the other evils being unarmed brings you, it causes you to be despised Machiavelli.)
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To: US Navy Vet
"...and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed." - DOI, 1776

As more and more Americans are pushed to insufferable, the future becomes brighter. It will not be long until, once again, Facts are to a candid world.

9 posted on 09/17/2009 6:35:01 AM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: ConservaTexan
Should read:

It will not be long until, once again, Facts are submitted to a candid world.

10 posted on 09/17/2009 6:36:18 AM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: US Navy Vet

It’s not worth saving. Too many fatal flaws. Better to let it go and start over.


11 posted on 09/17/2009 6:38:14 AM PDT by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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To: US Navy Vet
"Can this republic be saved or is it too far gone?"

"This republic," in it's truest sense has been gone for some time now. The true question is, "Can it be restored?"

12 posted on 09/17/2009 6:42:28 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: US Navy Vet

No.

I am sad to say it but no.

The blue staters and red staters do not even speak the same language anymore.

I have had my positions hardened since 2004 and especially since 2006 with the dumblecrat takeover of Congress. We may win back some seats but the house is going to be Dumble again. We stand a better chance in the Senate where the conservative votes in a state can’t be gerrymandered.

That said, there are simply too many people who do not listen or pay attention or who are swayed by the promise of someone else’s wealth being used for their benefit. They are usually in the cities on the coasts. There are other enclaves, to be sure.

So I can forsee people like me just saying that we are not going to be a part of this mess anymore. They can find some other chumps to fund their insane schemes.

Hence I can think the unthinkable: that the Republic is lost.


13 posted on 09/17/2009 6:42:52 AM PDT by Adder (Proudly ignoring Zero since 1-20-09!)
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To: US Navy Vet

Ask me in December, 2010. If we haven’t thrown the Democrats out of Congress, the country is a gonner.


14 posted on 09/17/2009 6:48:13 AM PDT by Rocky (OBAMA: Succeeding where bin Laden failed.)
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To: US Navy Vet
I'm giving it till 2010. If we don't win big in 2010, then all bets are off. It may take bloodshed if the sheep haven't awakened by then. If conservatives take over, then maybe it can be steered back into the channel. If not, we run aground and all bets are off. I know these people. I've known them since the '60's. It's there religion to hate America and want to destroy everything. They hate God, America, and children. They are mentally broken and have no soul. We may as well be dealing with Al Quida. Obama has already decided to dismantle the Constitution or be a one term president. He has the wackiest of the wacky in charge of every branch of government, so the stars have aligned for him. It boils down to him or us, there will be no middle ground.

My concern is really with our side. Do we have the gonads to stick with it? Do we have more than 2-3 in a hundred that will stand up and fight? Where will the authorities come down? If the military and the police refuse to fire on civilians, we win by default. There are alot of variables that we can't know just yet.

A quick look at Honduras is a good example of what COULD happen. The honcho counted on the army and they arrested him and sent him packing. No bloodshed. If Americans wake up to the Constitution and have faith in it, then we may come together over principle rather than personality. If you go back and view Obama's election rally's versus McCain's, you see the Obama people shouting "Obama, Obama", and the McCain people shouting "USA, USA". A cultish personality brings people like Hitler and Stalin and the movement fails when the person fails. The USA is an idea and is harder to kill.

15 posted on 09/17/2009 6:49:18 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: Rocky
“Ask me in December, 2010. If we haven’t thrown the Democrats out of Congress, the country is a goner.”

At that point, the potential for blood in the streets grows immensely. We will wish there had been less decorum in Congress instead of on the streets.

I am tired of Congress hiding behind the decorum when we soldiers in combat and those elite bastards in the Capitol are afraid to get their nose bloodied or offend their hyper sensitive constituents.

16 posted on 09/17/2009 6:55:16 AM PDT by Never on my watch (Do you REALLY think Obama is just going to let us vote him out of office?)
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To: chuckles
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trajan this is where we are at in comparison to the Roman Empire.
17 posted on 09/17/2009 6:58:41 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: US Navy Vet
At this point, I think it is desirable for the country to break into pieces -- some people want freedom and some people want control. They can't coexist.
18 posted on 09/17/2009 7:00:00 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: US Navy Vet

The Tree of Liberty is most certainly withering. Perhaps all it needs is a good watering.


19 posted on 09/17/2009 7:11:23 AM PDT by the lone haranguer (If the government keeps eating away at the Constitution, all we'll have left is the "CON".)
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To: US Navy Vet

I believe only divine intervention will help US now.


20 posted on 09/17/2009 7:30:09 AM PDT by Califreak (If it's Astroturf, why are you trying to mow it?(sign seen at a town hall meeting))
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To: US Navy Vet

How so? Mabye a revolution?

Well, we have a yard sale Saturday so thats out.... and Sunday is my nephew’s ballgames and I need to do a little shopping so....

Next weekend I am getting ready for a beach trip and the weekend after I will be at the beach so...

And forget anytime during the week because I work during the day (busy as heck lately) and come home and do more work in my own shop.

Now what were you saying about a lost replubic or something? I need more details than that if I plan on doing something... whatever that is.


21 posted on 09/17/2009 7:42:13 AM PDT by envisio (Wanna understand all the problems with this country? Google "Kanye West".)
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To: US Navy Vet
Yes, it CAN be saved.



However, it might be a bloody process.

22 posted on 09/17/2009 7:59:09 AM PDT by blues_guitarist (Obama is a putz! One black man's opinion . . .)
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To: US Navy Vet
Can this republic be saved or is it too far gone?

“America is at that awkward stage. It’s too late to work within the system, but too early to just shoot the bastards.” --- opening lines of “101 Things To Do ‘Til The Revolution by Claire Wolfe

23 posted on 09/17/2009 8:21:40 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, Trust few, and always paddle your own canoe)
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To: US Navy Vet
Can this republic be saved or is it too far gone?

How many actually know what a Republic is and why America is a Republic and not a Democracy?

This may help if you're not sure. Americanism. Read the section titled "The American Form of Government" on page 5.

By the way, today is the anniversary of the signing of America's Constitution, which made America a Republic.

24 posted on 09/17/2009 9:40:46 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, Trust few, and always paddle your own canoe)
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To: MosesKnows

A “Democracy” is 3 lions and 1 Zebra voting on what’s for lunch.


25 posted on 09/17/2009 9:47:41 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: US Navy Vet

Only a miracle of God can save it now.


26 posted on 09/17/2009 10:04:51 AM PDT by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: US Navy Vet

I think its closer to 60bc....the end of the republic.

But you have a point...near the end of the pax romana is good, too.


27 posted on 09/17/2009 2:24:35 PM PDT by Adder (Proudly ignoring Zero since 1-20-09!)
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