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1959 Chevrolet Bel Air Vs. 2009 Chevrolet Malibu (50 Years of Auto Safety)
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Posted on 09/17/2009 2:30:09 PM PDT by Dallas59

This test was for IIHS's 50th year anniversary in the safety research business! Congrats on your 50 years guys! May many more come your way!

The dummy in the Malibu suffered only minor leg injuries while the dummy in the Bel Air would have dies instantly, this really shows how auto safety has progressed!



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1 posted on 09/17/2009 2:30:10 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: Dallas59

I like how they labeled the cars.

Just so we don’t get them mixed up.


2 posted on 09/17/2009 2:34:18 PM PDT by El Sordo
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To: Dallas59
I’ll take the ‘59 Bel Air...anyday. Its a crime to destroy a classic to let Government Motors prove their stupid little point.

I’ll let the sissy sisters worry about crumple zones, air bags, and the like.

3 posted on 09/17/2009 2:36:39 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Dallas59

Wonder how that Malibu will be doing in 2069?


4 posted on 09/17/2009 2:39:19 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: Dallas59

I think they should have asked the Dear Comrade to drive the ‘59 Bel Air.


5 posted on 09/17/2009 2:40:36 PM PDT by mkjessup
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To: screaminsunshine

I was thinking the same thing. Doubt if you’ll be seeing any at Barret Jackson.


6 posted on 09/17/2009 2:42:43 PM PDT by Daffynition (If you believe you can tell me what to think, I believe I can tell you where to go.)
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To: screaminsunshine

Yep. 50 (or maybe even 30) years from now there won’t be even one ‘09 Malibu in existence. But mid-late ‘50s Bel Airs will live forever.


7 posted on 09/17/2009 2:43:31 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Dallas59

I wonder if the driver of the ‘59 would have just avoided the wreck because he did not have a Nav system, satellite radio, cell phone, Blackberry, or a handful of fries to distract him while driving.

Also, back when people thought a car crash would KILL them, they tried much harder to avoid them. Now, they just figure they can walk away and sue for soft tissue injuries later.


8 posted on 09/17/2009 2:43:53 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Question O-thority!)
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To: Dallas59
In a contest between the Bel Air and a Smart Car(t), which would prevail?

Remember, just recently someone died in a simple 35mph roll-over in a Ford Focus.

9 posted on 09/17/2009 2:44:06 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: Dallas59

Bel Aire driver fared far worse than the Malibu


10 posted on 09/17/2009 2:46:05 PM PDT by frithguild (Can I drill your head now?)
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I will take the 09 Malibu any day.

I will let nostalgic retards drive the death trap from the 50’s.

Rebuild tranny every 30k miles. Rebuild engine every 60k miles.

Planned obsolescence. No thanks.

11 posted on 09/17/2009 2:46:56 PM PDT by Reaganez
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To: Bryanw92
Also, back when people thought a car crash would KILL them, they tried much harder to avoid them. Now, they just figure they can walk away and sue for soft tissue injuries later.

That's true. Sometimes, I don't even drive on the right hand side of the road. What's the point?

12 posted on 09/17/2009 2:47:18 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: Dallas59
 
 
My brother had a 59 Bel Air. Two tone green and white. Those fins! Oh, what a car!
 
(memories....) 
 


13 posted on 09/17/2009 2:48:52 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I am Legend)
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To: Dallas59
What a terrible way for that Bel Air to die.

They could have given it to me and I would have given it a humane feath by mileage.

On another note, the only reason the guy in the Malibu would have survived is due to the air bag.
So in 50 years, they invented an air bag.

Hoorayyy </sarc>

14 posted on 09/17/2009 2:49:04 PM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: El Sordo

Snort!


15 posted on 09/17/2009 2:51:19 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Dallas59
Precursor for the new Apparatchiks confiscating these clunkers without safety and emissions devices not to mention the evil Capital Gains many restorers have enjoyed by not declaring the real worth of these cars

We must redistrinbute the wealth !

Sarc off....

16 posted on 09/17/2009 2:53:02 PM PDT by taildragger (Palin/Mulally 2012)
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To: Bryanw92

It’s far more likely that the driver of the 2009 would have been able to avoid the crash because of the newer car’s far superior handling and brakes.


17 posted on 09/17/2009 2:53:31 PM PDT by Fresh Wind ("Prosperity is just around the corner." Herbert Hoover, 1932)
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To: Dallas59
Yeah but it doesn't say anything about being cool!

It's better be cool and dead than alive and uncool. :)
18 posted on 09/17/2009 2:55:25 PM PDT by Sudetenland (Slow to anger but terrible in vengence...such is the character of the American people.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
My brother had a 59 Bel Air. Two tone green and white. Those fins! Oh, what a car!

Did it have a 409?

19 posted on 09/17/2009 2:56:33 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Governement should be afraid of the people)
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To: Just another Joe

Did the ‘59 have seatbelts? (57 didn’t)


20 posted on 09/17/2009 2:57:02 PM PDT by lack-of-trust
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

Nope.

Inline 6. Three on the tree.

Andddd...... The 409 didn’t come out till 1961.

(I am probably totally wrong about that.)


21 posted on 09/17/2009 3:00:19 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I am Legend)
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To: Responsibility2nd

(I am probably totally wrong about that.)

Hah! My memory is correct.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Bel_Air


22 posted on 09/17/2009 3:03:22 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I am Legend)
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To: Dallas59

What really sticks out in my mind is that there are people walking on this planet who are SOOOO FRACKIN’ STOOPID that they’ll destroy a classic automobile JUST to get their rocks off about safety.

They breath our air.

They eat our food.

They vote.

They may even reproduce.

God save us all!


23 posted on 09/17/2009 3:07:49 PM PDT by HKMk23 (In the end, life contains only one tragedy: not to have been a saint.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

They had a 348 in 59, Same block


24 posted on 09/17/2009 3:09:53 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Reaganez
Rebuild tranny(stupid expression)every 30,000 miles? Plain to see you didn't live in the late 50s. Rebuild engine at 60,000? That went out about 1935, cars in the 50s routinely averaged 100,000 or more miles and they didn't have the oils we have now. I drove a 1957 chevy that I paid 700 bucks for in 1962, it had 50,000 on it when I got it, I drove it until it dropped at 125,000 miles and it didn't even have an oil filter, but I changed oil every 1000 miles like clockwork. The transmission, BTW, was still going strong when I sold it to a guy for 90 bucks in 1968.

The only car I ever owned that the transmission(notice how it is spelled, it isn't a sex change victim it is a car part)went out early was a 2000 Ford Taurus, it went out at 70,000 miles, and pi**ed me off to no end when it did it.

25 posted on 09/17/2009 3:10:53 PM PDT by calex59 (FUBO, we want our constitution back and we intend to get it!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Yes, you are definitely wrong about the 409, it came out in the 1959 chevys. I remember them well because a friend of mine had one.


26 posted on 09/17/2009 3:12:58 PM PDT by calex59 (FUBO, we want our constitution back and we intend to get it!)
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To: Dallas59

That’s a terrible, terrible crime; killing a 59 Chevy like that.


27 posted on 09/17/2009 3:19:04 PM PDT by onemiddleamerican (FUBO)
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To: Just another Joe
Indeed, that was a horrible, stupid way for a Bel Air to die.

However....

On another note, the only reason the guy in the Malibu would have survived is due to the air bag. So in 50 years, they invented an air bag.

It's far more than that - crumple zones, steering columns, extensive computer analysis, prototype testing - and yes, the explosive component known as an airbag. Keep in mind, that final one's development and manufacturing took a tremendous amount of work, skill, and even literal costs of human lives (when the plants that make them occasionally blow up).

We have come a tremendous way in automotive safety, performance, quality, and efficiency - all through a huge amount of hard work and capital (there's Zer0's least favorite word) investment. It's just that this video is a dumb, dumb way to show it.

28 posted on 09/17/2009 3:19:04 PM PDT by Yossarian
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To: calex59

Ditto, you can always identify these ignorant fools who don’t even know what they’re talking about when they start spewing off babble like that. Whether we’re talking cars of the 1950’s/60’s or cars today, the one key critical component is MAINTENANCE, *preventive* maintenance and in the vehicles of the past, it was far easier (and encouraged) for the owners to do much of their own upkeep and the cars were designed to make that upkeep simple and straightforward, unlike these computerized digital pieces of plastic crap that have only one thing in common with their namesakes of the past, and that is: the name/badge on the fender.


29 posted on 09/17/2009 3:19:24 PM PDT by mkjessup
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To: Bryanw92
"Now, they just figure they can walk away and sue for soft tissue injuries later."

Man, you got that right. Along with no fault insurance we've ended up with hordes or drivers who would just as soon have a wreck as not to. Three people ran into each other at an intersection near me last week, two were on cellphones and the third was messing with his on board DVD. All three of them were running a red light or flooring it through an amber according to the witnesses. They'll all have replacement vehicles and the same insurance premium next week and be back at it.

Regards

30 posted on 09/17/2009 3:20:38 PM PDT by Rashputin (blif)
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To: Dallas59

The first car I bought was a ‘59 Chevy. It was a flipping tank. I am suspect of the video.


31 posted on 09/17/2009 3:22:02 PM PDT by svcw (Legalism reinforces self-righteousness - it communicates to you the good news of your own goodness)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The best drive in movie - in the world!!! Two bench seats.


32 posted on 09/17/2009 3:23:16 PM PDT by svcw (Legalism reinforces self-righteousness - it communicates to you the good news of your own goodness)
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To: El Sordo

LOL.

What a waste of a classic. Of course, had it been a ‘55 or a ‘56 that would have been sacrilegious.


33 posted on 09/17/2009 3:24:58 PM PDT by Sparko (Obama & Czars: neutering the American Voter, perverting the Constitution, all on our dime.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Not quite the Bowtie.


34 posted on 09/17/2009 3:26:48 PM PDT by AceMineral (Offically unapproved of since 1973)
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To: Responsibility2nd; Venturer

Re: 348/409

One of the more remarkable features of that engine (and you may both know this already) is that Chevrolet engineers used a very shallow intake/exhaust valve area in the cylinder head, combined with what would appear to be lopsided pistons, effectively gave the 348/409 a fully machined combustion chamber at virtually no cost, which meant more efficient burning of fuel, i.e., more horsepower. The 409 was truly ahead of it’s time, and will remain a legend.

I say that as a diehard Ford fanatic too.


35 posted on 09/17/2009 3:26:51 PM PDT by mkjessup
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To: Dallas59

This is bogus - there is not seatbelt in the Chevy - thats why the driver would have died.

Actually, I am surprised that the Chevy came out as good as it did - I expected a lot more from the crumple zones, etc of the modern jelly bean.

PS - the Chevy’s ladder chassis might have made for a far different ending in a head on.


36 posted on 09/17/2009 3:29:44 PM PDT by blackminorca
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To: Dallas59
An old classic car like that is not a modern transportation car, but it is a CLASSIC car.

Anybody who would deliberately destroy one like that ought to be whipped.

37 posted on 09/17/2009 3:38:48 PM PDT by OKSooner ("He's quite mad, you know." - Sean Connery to Honor Blackman in "Goldfinger".)
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To: svcw

I could not determine from the video if the ‘59 had a motor in it.


38 posted on 09/17/2009 3:41:46 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (A mob of one.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Good catch. I believe you are correct.


39 posted on 09/17/2009 3:43:49 PM PDT by svcw (Legalism reinforces self-righteousness - it communicates to you the good news of your own goodness)
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To: mkjessup
Yep, and the key component that they keep missing for safety is that if you don't hit something you don't have to worry about dieing. The truth is the death rate in cars is about the same as it was back then. Safer cars don't make safer drivers. As for that 1959 Chevy, I wish I had one fully restored, the prettiest one I ever saw belonged to a friend of mine, he took it to T town in Mexico(back when things weren't as weird)and had it upholstered in blue and white leather and then put a pearl white paint job on the outside. What a car!

And you could fit 6 people into it without crowding.

40 posted on 09/17/2009 3:52:02 PM PDT by calex59 (FUBO, we want our constitution back and we intend to get it!)
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To: Jet Jaguar

You also have to wonder whether the ‘59 had corrosion issues that might have weakened its structure.


41 posted on 09/17/2009 3:56:37 PM PDT by Fresh Wind ("Prosperity is just around the corner." Herbert Hoover, 1932)
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To: Fresh Wind

Yes. Good point. I would have preferred an in depth video.


42 posted on 09/17/2009 4:01:08 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (A mob of one.)
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To: Fresh Wind

Ya think? Did you see the cloud of rust that came off the ‘59? Whoa.


43 posted on 09/17/2009 4:02:40 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: Dallas59

Give me the ‘59 Chevy anyday.


44 posted on 09/17/2009 4:06:13 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Welcome to the Revolution.)
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To: NVDave

I looked again, you’re right-that cloud could only be rust!


45 posted on 09/17/2009 4:07:34 PM PDT by Fresh Wind ("Prosperity is just around the corner." Herbert Hoover, 1932)
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To: svcw

...upholstered with plastic which could be washed off with a garden hose. Not that you would have had any reason to, of course.


46 posted on 09/17/2009 4:10:57 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Reaganez
I will let nostalgic retards drive the death trap from the 50’s.

That's uncalled for.

I've had a '57 Chevy and a '54 Oldsmobile. As far as I know, I'm not retarded.
47 posted on 09/17/2009 4:13:56 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Welcome to the Revolution.)
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To: Mr. Lucky

hummm. Not my car but then I never tried to water the inside. I did not have padding on the dash, however.


48 posted on 09/17/2009 4:17:05 PM PDT by svcw (Legalism reinforces self-righteousness - it communicates to you the good news of your own goodness)
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To: Yossarian
It's far more than that - crumple zones, steering columns, extensive computer analysis, prototype testing - and yes, the explosive component known as an airbag. Keep in mind, that final one's development and manufacturing took a tremendous amount of work, skill, and even literal costs of human lives (when the plants that make them occasionally blow up).

We have come a tremendous way in automotive safety, performance, quality, and efficiency - all through a huge amount of hard work and capital (there's Zer0's least favorite word) investment. It's just that this video is a dumb, dumb way to show it.

In 1959 after a typical accident they towed the car to the body shop and the occupants went to the morgue. Today, the car goes to the scrapyard and the occupants walk away. Cars have become so safe that about the only way to get killed in an accident is to get ejected from the vehicle for not wearing a seatbelt. Not always but very, very often.

49 posted on 09/17/2009 4:27:02 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Venturer

Take a trip in time:

http://www.superchevy.com/features/pre1977full/sucp_0801_348_409_w_engines/index.html


50 posted on 09/17/2009 5:22:16 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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