[Nikas777]

Calling the start of the Iron Age "The Catastrophe" beggars belief. Spoken like true Luddites, still worshipping at the feet of The Noble Savage, denouncinging that most evil of all evils, the Mother Gaea raping iron plow.

That is the most ignorant statement in regards to history I have ever read.

You don't get to make a judgement call on how people felt back then. You only can note that Hesiod's view was what it was and many people accepted it.

You make the - what I feel - is the disgusting mistake of judging history form your own perspective. because of people like you the Athenian democratic experiment is damned because women did not have the right to vote and the Athenians owned slaves.

[SunkenCiv]

Uh, Nikas, we all make judgement calls on history all the time here. :’)