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Flicks: If only the zombies would eat Michael Moore
www.morningsun.net ^ | Sep 30, 2009 @ 02:31 PM | John Meo

Posted on 10/02/2009 7:40:59 AM PDT by Nikas777

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To: Nikas777
I hear you...I agree that the freshly dead being somewhat quick is an acceptable mythos tweak.

It's the overwhelming hordes that make the zombies dangerous. 2 or 3 can easily be dispatched as in Dawn of The Dead when they are clearing the mall...but eventually, they will always outnumber you. That's why it's so important to keep moving...never stay in one place for long.


21 posted on 10/02/2009 8:03:34 AM PDT by NMEwithin
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To: SJSAMPLE
Didn't I say "Ten thousand zombies"?

I don't see ten thousand zombies in that picture. Only 13.

I think I could take out 13 shambling zombies with my personal weaponry.

Not so sure about 10K. You?

22 posted on 10/02/2009 8:06:49 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: SJSAMPLE

Simple tool using zombie? Like a club or rock? I think in Day of the Dead it was established their brains do sort of work.


23 posted on 10/02/2009 8:07:10 AM PDT by Nikas777 (En touto nika, "In this, be victorious")
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To: NMEwithin
I've always wondered; As slow as the Romero-generation zombies were, how did there get to be so many?

Sure, the first cute little girl to become infected (the virus scenario works out much better than the 1950's radiation hypothesis) would certainly get a few converts. But, at some point, people are going to catch on and just close their front doors.

Even a little speed is going to make that a reality.
24 posted on 10/02/2009 8:08:27 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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25 posted on 10/02/2009 8:11:22 AM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts (“Cap and Trade bill tells us how to live.. Health Care bill tells us how to die.” Bauer and Rose)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Why not make it a million?

Unless I'm at a Detroit Lions Indianapolis Colts game, no way I'm going to encounter thousands as a group. And, certainly enough densely-packed to prevent me from walking through them like a game of "Blind Man's Bluff" with real blink kids who are also Polio survivors.

Again, how could shambling undead procreate at a rate that would really matter? Everybody's gonna catch on really quick, and then they'd just be sport for the rest of us.
26 posted on 10/02/2009 8:11:46 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE

blink = blind.

Sorry about that, blind/polio kids.


27 posted on 10/02/2009 8:13:04 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Nikas777

I am definitely seeing Zombieland, and it would take nothing less than a Ludovico Treatment to make me see any Michael Moore movie.


28 posted on 10/02/2009 8:16:18 AM PDT by discostu (The Bluebird of Happiness long absent from his life, Ned is visited by the Chicken of Depression)
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To: SJSAMPLE

While I think there is some genre precedent for “torture porn” with some of the 70’s era exploitation films (”Last House on The Left”) I agree it has not served the genre as a whole very well. Thankfully it seems the trend has worn off culminating with “Captivity” and “Hostel 2”. The obvious exception being the “Saw” series which by all rights should have ended with “Saw 3”. Unfortunately it has been deemed a yearly cash-cow for Hollywood so I don’t see that one ending soon.


29 posted on 10/02/2009 8:18:15 AM PDT by NMEwithin
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To: SJSAMPLE

Well...in a world where we have cities like Detroit who are reporting that their morgues are overflowing with unclaimed bodies...is it so far-fetched?


30 posted on 10/02/2009 8:21:08 AM PDT by NMEwithin
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To: Nikas777

Zombieland has gotten positive reviews from almost everyone. It is at 90% on Rotten Tomatoes right now. I’m pumped for it. Sprinting zombies or no.


31 posted on 10/02/2009 8:23:39 AM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: NMEwithin

Man, I remember seeing “Last House on The Left” at the theater and it really left an impression on me. Not so much for the violent acts and graphic nature, but the randomness of it all.

Wrong place, wrong time.
Same thing with “The Hills Have Eyes”.

I think the 1970s hit very well upon that scenario, including “Race With The Devil”.


32 posted on 10/02/2009 8:24:22 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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My main objective would be to make it to a harbor or marina and find a sailing boat. I would then try to find an easily-defendable island. In “I am Legend”, Will Smith would have been much better off moving his operation to Ellis Island (2 miles off Manhattan), and sailing over to Manhattan during the day for supplies.


33 posted on 10/02/2009 8:27:39 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: SJSAMPLE
I think the 1970s hit very well upon that scenario, including “Race With The Devil”.

I agree...and let's not forget the granddaddy of the all, the original "Texas Chainsaw Massacre". A truly disturbing film especially considering it's obvious lack of blood or gore. The grittiness of the film is just as unsettling now as it was then. The remake came nowhere close to capturing that feeling.

34 posted on 10/02/2009 8:28:02 AM PDT by NMEwithin
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Will Smith would have been much better off not being Will Smith and being Chuck F’n Heston!!!

And the CGI thingies in the flick sucked BIG TIME.


35 posted on 10/02/2009 8:29:26 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: NMEwithin
I was born in Detroit.
I lived in Detroit.

Seriously, would you be more afraid of Detroit zombies or Detroit residents?

Just sayin'.
36 posted on 10/02/2009 8:30:40 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE

Hahahaha....Good point! :)


37 posted on 10/02/2009 8:34:58 AM PDT by NMEwithin
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It starts off with all the recent dead rising. That’s a good quantity of people and a lot of them will be in hospitals. Next they bite a few people that don’t know what’s going on, eventually the ambulatory people will figure it out, but they’re at this point going to be mostly medical professionals, the kind of people who want to help, so they’re not going to run. Which makes them the next set of victims, plus of course all the patients get bit. By the time your morgue zombies have busted out of the hospitals you’ve got a couple hundred per hospital.

Then the hunting starts, Max Brooks’ book and the Walking Dead series discuss how and why zombies horde. Basically one notices food and groans and all the ones that hear it follow. And even when they don’t hear a groan zombie clusters tend to merge. So 400 from this hospital run into 300 from that hospital run into 200 from the old folks home inbetween and they pick up some random house and store zombies along the way and you’ve 1000 zombies heading to the mall.

Also keep in mind that the people who catch on first will be warning people of something we believe to be patently impossible. So they’ll sound like crazies, so nobody is going to be paying attention to them. By the time people start listening the zombies will have taken a lot of territory and people. And then you’re going to have the people in denial, people who get bit but hide it, people unwilling to brain their recently deceased loved ones, these will cause clusters of survivors to turn into clusters of zombies.


38 posted on 10/02/2009 8:36:59 AM PDT by discostu (The Bluebird of Happiness long absent from his life, Ned is visited by the Chicken of Depression)
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To: discostu

Meh.
Max Brooks is a late-comer.
His “Survival” guide sorta sucked.
Especially when he dissed the AR-15. Proof that he doesn’t know his weapons is abundant in all of his books.

Again, their slow movements preclude rapid infections, even with the 100% transmittal rate. Any guy with a revolver is going to clear out two or three generations of zombies without reloading.

Now, that may work in England (clearly evidenced in “28 Days Later”), but in the good old US of F’n A, firepower RULES. It’d be a mop up operation, and that’s why the slow-mover theory falls flat. It’s just unsustainable, even in the short term.


39 posted on 10/02/2009 8:44:02 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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Sorry but you’re just copping a position. 400 zombies are going to come out of every hospital. A guy with a revolver won’t be clearing that out.


40 posted on 10/02/2009 8:45:58 AM PDT by discostu (The Bluebird of Happiness long absent from his life, Ned is visited by the Chicken of Depression)
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