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History Unfolding -I have never been so afraid for my country and for my children as I am now.
aarp ^ | September 1, 2009 | Dr. David Kaiser

Posted on 10/18/2009 7:43:04 AM PDT by opentalk

I am a student of history. Professionally, I have written 15 books on history that have been published in six languages, and I have studied history all my life. I have come to think there is something monumentally large afoot, and I do not believe it is simply a banking crisis, or a mortgage crisis, or a credit crisis. Yes these exist, but they are merely single facets on a very large gemstone that is only now coming into a sharper focus.

Something of historic proportions is happening. I can sense it because I know how it feels, smells, what it looks like, and how people react to it. Yes, a perfect storm may be brewing, but there is something happening within our country that has been evolving for about ten to fifteen years. The pace has dramatically quickened in the past two.

We demand and then codify into law the requirement that our banks make massive loans to people we know they can never pay back? Why?

We learned just days ago that the Federal Reserve, which has little or no real oversight by anyone, has "loaned" two trillion dollars (that is $2,000,000,000,000) over the past few months, but will not tell us to whom or why or disclose the terms. That is our money. Yours and mine. And that is three times the $700 billion we all argued about so strenuously just this past September. Who has this money? Why do they have it? Why are the terms unavailable to us? Who asked for it? Who authorized it? I thought this was a government of "we the people," who loaned our powers to our elected leaders. Apparently not.

We have spent two or more decades intentionally de-industrializing our economy.. Why?

We have intentionally dumbed down our schools, ignored our history, and no longer teach our founding documents, why we are exceptional, and why we are worth preserving. Students by and large cannot write, think critically, read, or articulate. Parents are not revolting, teachers are not picketing, school boards continue to back mediocrity.. Why?

We have now established the precedent of protesting every close election (violently in California over a proposition that is so controversial that it simply wants marriage to remain defined as between one man and one woman. Did you ever think such a thing possible just a decade ago?) We have corrupted our sacred political process by allowing unelected judges to write laws that radically change our way of life, and then mainstream Marxist groups like ACORN and others to turn our voting system into a banana republic. To what purpose?

Now our mortgage industry is collapsing, housing prices are in free fall, major industries are failing, our banking system is on the verge of collapse, social security is nearly bankrupt, as is Medicare and our entire government. Our education system is worse than a joke (I teach college and I know precisely what I am talking about) - the list is staggering in its length, breadth, and depth.. It is potentially 1929 x ten...And we are at war with an enemy we cannot even name for fear of offending people of the same religion, who, in turn, cannot wait to slit the throats of your children if they have the opportunity to do so.

And finally, we have elected a man that no one really knows anything about, who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen, let alone a town as big as Wasilla, Alaska. All of his associations and alliances are with real radicals in their chosen fields of employment, and everything we learn about him, drip by drip, is unsettling if not downright scary (Surely you have heard him speak about his idea to create and fund a mandatory civilian defense force stronger than our military for use inside our borders? No? Oh, of course. The media would never play that for you over and over and then demand he answer it. Sarah Palin's pregnant daughter and $150,000 wardrobe are more important.)

Mr. Obama's winning platform can be boiled down to one word: Change. Why?

I have never been so afraid for my country and for my children as I am now.

This man campaigned on bringing people together, something he has never, ever done in his professional life. In my assessment, Obama will divide us along philosophical lines, push us apart, and then try to realign the pieces into a new and different power structure. Change is indeed coming. And when it comes, you will never see the same nation again.

And that is only the beginning..

As a serious student of history, I thought I would never come to experience what the ordinary, moral German must have felt in the mid-1930s In those times, the "savior" was a former smooth-talking rabble-rouser from the streets, about whom the average German knew next to nothing. What they should have known was that he was associated with groups that shouted, shoved, and pushed around people with whom they disagreed; he edged his way onto the political stage through great oratory. Conservative "losers" read it right now.

And there were the promises. Economic times were tough, people were losing jobs, and he was a great speaker. And he smiled and frowned and waved a lot. And people, even newspapers, were afraid to speak out for fear that his "brown shirts" would bully and beat them into submission. Which they did - regularly. And then, he was duly elected to office, while a full-throttled economic crisis bloomed at hand - the Great Depression. Slowly, but surely he seized the controls of government power, person by person, department by department, bureaucracy by bureaucracy. The children of German citizens were at first, encouraged to join a Youth Movement in his name where they were taught exactly what to think. Later, they were required to do so. No Jews of course,

How did he get people on his side? He did it by promising jobs to the jobless, money to the money-less, and rewards for the military-industrial complex. He did it by indoctrinating the children, advocating gun control, health care for all, better wages, better jobs, and promising to re-instill pride once again in the country, across Europe, and across the world. He did it with a compliant media - did you know that? And he did this all in the name of justice and ....... change. And the people surely got what they voted for.

If you think I am exaggerating, look it up. It's all there in the history books.

So read your history books. Many people of conscience objected in 1933 and were shouted down, called names, laughed at, and ridiculed. When Winston Churchill pointed out the obvious in the late 1930s while seated in the House of Lords in England (he was not yet Prime Minister), he was booed into his seat and called a crazy troublemaker. He was right, though. And the world came to regret that he was not listened to.

Do not forget that Germany was the most educated, the most cultured country in Europe. It was full of music, art, museums, hospitals, laboratories, and universities. And yet, in less than six years (a shorter time span than just two terms of the U. S. presidency) it was rounding up its own citizens, killing others, abrogating its laws, turning children against parents, and neighbors against neighbors. All with the best of intentions, of course. The road to Hell is paved with them.

As a practical thinker, one not overly prone to emotional decisions, I have a choice: I can either believe what the objective pieces of evidence tell me (even if they make me cringe with disgust); I can believe what history is shouting to me from across the chasm of seven decades; or I can hope I am wrong by closing my eyes, having another latte, and ignoring what is transpiring around me..

I choose to believe the evidence. No doubt some people will scoff at me, others laugh, or think I am foolish, naive, or both. To some degree, perhaps I am. But I have never been afraid to look people in the eye and tell them exactly what I believe-and why I believe it.

I pray I am wrong. I do not think I am. Perhaps the only hope is our vote in the next elections.

David Kaiser Jamestown , Rhode Island United States

Pass this along. Perhaps it will help to begin the awakening of America as to where we are headed.......


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: america; communism; frightened; marxism; new; obama; scared; stopobama; takeover
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David Kaiser is a respected historian whose published works have covered a broad range of topics, from European Warfare to American League Baseball. Born in 1947, the son of a diplomat, Kaiser spent his childhood in three capital cities: Washington D.C, Albany, New York, and Dakar, Senegal. He attended Harvard University, graduating there in 1969 with a B.A. in history. He then spent several years more at Harvard, gaining a PhD in history, which he obtained in 1976. He served in the Army Reserve from 1970 to 1976.

He is a professor in the Strategy and Policy Department of the United States Naval War College . He has previously taught at Carnegie Mellon, Williams College and Harvard University. Kaiser's latest book, The Road to Dallas, about the Kennedy assassination, was just published by Harvard University Press.

1 posted on 10/18/2009 7:43:05 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

Great article! But I think someone over at AARP slipped up and allowed this article to be published. Someone forgot to take their meds.


2 posted on 10/18/2009 7:48:08 AM PDT by caver (Obama's first goals: allow more killing of innocents and allow the killers of innocents to go free.)
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To: opentalk

With the help of ignorant masses a hostile force has taken over the government of the United States of America and is in the process of destroying the country. Sounds like a fiction thriller?... Fact is its true and happening right here right now.

Pray for America and against the forces of darkness


3 posted on 10/18/2009 7:49:08 AM PDT by Breto
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To: opentalk

I dont believe anything coming from AARP.


4 posted on 10/18/2009 7:49:21 AM PDT by DogBarkTree (Support Sarah. http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/sarahpalin?ref=nf)
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To: opentalk

Excellent write up and oh so accurate.


5 posted on 10/18/2009 7:49:33 AM PDT by WildWeasel
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To: opentalk
If this is the same thing I got via an e-mail the other day, Snopes has discounted it as not being written by Dr. Kaiser. (they contacted him).

(http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/proportions.asp)

I think on Snopes Dr. Kaiser, when contacted, said many of the views in the piece are opposite of his.

6 posted on 10/18/2009 7:49:52 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: opentalk

I’m hoping this fear is our friend, a motivator.


7 posted on 10/18/2009 7:50:00 AM PDT by toddausauras
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To: opentalk

Hey Mr. Kaiser, we have too many people who are ‘afraid for their country and afraid for their children’ and not enough people who are ‘angry about their country and angry about the future for their children’. I file your article under the “Captain Obvious” column. The key is whether enough people will stop wringing their hands and start getting actively involved, and by active, I mean with force. Somehow, a son of a diplomat who went to Harvard doesn’t strike me as one who will join the fight, so I guess we’ll do it without you. You can write about us, though.


8 posted on 10/18/2009 7:50:07 AM PDT by raptor29
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To: opentalk

The link actually takes you to a forum page of AARP. I agree with others. Somebody has slipped up in allowing this on the website.


9 posted on 10/18/2009 7:53:38 AM PDT by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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To: opentalk
I have a choice:

.....I can either believe what the objective pieces of evidence tell me (even if they make me cringe with disgust);

.....I can believe what history is shouting to me from across the chasm of seven decades;

.....or I can hope I am wrong by closing my eyes, having another latte, and ignoring what is transpiring around me..

I choose to believe the evidence.

Bump.....because he is right.

10 posted on 10/18/2009 7:55:18 AM PDT by SteamShovel (When hope trumps reality, there is no hope at all.)
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To: opentalk

Well I’m am not all of those things and I have the same fears. We are truly living in dangerous times. This craziness must stop if we are to survive. If a major change does not start in the next election it will become really scary because change will then only be possible through means must avoid. Just look at what almost happened in Honduras (it may yet). Seems that the dark clouds are gathering as a rapid pace.


11 posted on 10/18/2009 7:57:24 AM PDT by WHBates
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To: WHBates

CHITCAN AARP AND JOIN OATHKEEPERS.ORG


12 posted on 10/18/2009 8:02:30 AM PDT by manonCANAL
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To: SteamShovel

The Part about the Federal Reserve refusing to tell us where
2 trillion dollars of your money went,is especially disturbing.


13 posted on 10/18/2009 8:05:15 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: manonCANAL

Today we have race hustlers instead of brown shirts.


14 posted on 10/18/2009 8:10:46 AM PDT by expatguy (Support "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" - DONATE)
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To: caver

AARP published this?

Ru Roh, someone on the editorial staff is in Axelrod doo-doo. They will not be getting a signed WH kwanzaa card this year.


15 posted on 10/18/2009 8:11:06 AM PDT by silverleaf (If we are astroturf, why are the democrats trying to mow us?)
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To: opentalk
Pass this along.

Always arouses my suspicious nature.

16 posted on 10/18/2009 8:14:19 AM PDT by sonofagun
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To: opentalk
I'm afraid too! That's why I marched on Washington on 9-12.

DC better be afraid....because next year, we are coming after every politician and booting them back to their home states, for good.

17 posted on 10/18/2009 8:14:51 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Markets and Marxists Don't Mix! Audit the FED NOW!)
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To: raptor29

Time for talk is over. I;m afraid there is very little time left for us to survive as the united States we once knew. There has been a soft takover of the country by extreme leftist and not much is being done about it .
Too busy watching Dancing with the Stars no doubt.
Time for civil disorder is here .
Time for major demonstrations
Time to shut down Congress and block it’s hall with thousands
Time we organize and have thousands call and call and call every day ( emails do not reach politicians by the way )


18 posted on 10/18/2009 8:24:47 AM PDT by sonic109
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To: opentalk

Exceptionally good article, and good to see it associated with the AARP — the man’s not preaching to the choir there.


19 posted on 10/18/2009 8:31:28 AM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: DogBarkTree
I dont believe anything coming from AARP.

My usual response as well, but this one must have slipped past their censors, or we've got a deep cover mole inside!

20 posted on 10/18/2009 8:37:15 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., hot enough down there today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: raptor29
Somehow, a son of a diplomat who went to Harvard doesn’t strike me as one who will join the fight, so I guess we’ll do it without you. You can write about us, though.

So long as he portrays us accurately, I'll consider that enough. He's put himself and his family in as much danger as those who do "join the fight".

21 posted on 10/18/2009 8:40:27 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., hot enough down there today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: opentalk
I too fear for our country as I see the US Constitution being gutted by Obama. He is about to sign over US sovereignty in a climate bill. He has assaulted free speech by gagging insurance companies from telling the truth about Obamacare and maintaining a White House snitch list. He has sought to control the press and other media. He has ruined the economy with crippling debt. All of this has happened in less than a year into his first term. I shudder to think how things will look in 2012. We could well be living in a socialist police state.
22 posted on 10/18/2009 8:40:38 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: sonic109

You are quite right, sonic. I’m just waiting for the flash point, as getting something going is a complicated issue. It’s just incredible that real Americans, law-abiding Americans who have done the right thing throughout their lives are pushed to the point where we will have to go outside the “law” to save this place. But we have to come to grips with this, because our enemies have heretofore used our trusting, lawful and civil nature against us. That day is over, and we need to act. I for one am very ready and I’m ready to give all.


23 posted on 10/18/2009 8:43:15 AM PDT by raptor29
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To: WHBates

If a major change does not start in the next election... Don’t look for it. The TWO PARTIES are one. The Third party would (is) outlawed.


24 posted on 10/18/2009 8:43:45 AM PDT by Safetgiver (I'd rather die under a free American sky than live under a Socialist regime.)
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To: opentalk

Wow! Bookmarked 4 later forwarding.


25 posted on 10/18/2009 8:57:40 AM PDT by freemama
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To: caver
Great article! But I think someone over at AARP slipped up and allowed this article to be published. Someone forgot to take their meds.

I though the same thing. How long til this gets pulled?

26 posted on 10/18/2009 9:00:38 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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To: opentalk

“Something of historic proportions is happening. I can sense it because I know how it feels, smells, what it looks like, and how people react to it. Yes, a perfect storm may be brewing, but there is something happening within our country that has been evolving for about ten to fifteen years. The pace has dramatically quickened in the past two. “

Everyone feels it. No one knows what is going on, but everyone I know feels this undercurrent of something HUGE.


27 posted on 10/18/2009 9:00:46 AM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: raptor29

Waiting for a flash point is like waiting for NK or Iran to comply with inspections. The longer the fedgov avoids one, the farther down the socialist path they take us. People must, at some point, consider what if a flashpoint never comes? Would you consider to sit on the sides, continuing to lose freedoms and property, indefinitely? What if healthcare and climate change pass? People need to draw their line in the sand and not keep moving it back while hoping for some uniting flash point.

This isn’t directed at you but rather is a general statement to all who seem to be idly sitting by, waiting for some sign. The men at Lexington weren’t sitting at home waiting for a flash point. I don’t think Jefferson, Hamilton or Madison were sitting at home waiting for a flash point. They actively went out in the community and stirred up suport for the opposition. We need to be more aggressive in our efforts and not limit ourselves to being internet-only commandos.


28 posted on 10/18/2009 9:14:39 AM PDT by ArmedSkeptic
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To: Safetgiver
I agree. 2010 is like a last hope -- and I'm pessimistic about the election outcome. If the Democrats retain power afterward, then voting, free speech, and public demonstrations will all have been shown to be a waste of time.

And other means will be indicated.

29 posted on 10/18/2009 9:15:33 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: opentalk

There’s been some speculation that the 2 trillion has gone into buying fortune 500 stocks.


30 posted on 10/18/2009 9:16:27 AM PDT by Teflonic
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To: opentalk
A really good read. I for one am trying to look into why people are reacting this way to Obama or other leaders in the world who think like him and it may be something to consider when we attack the beliefs that lead them to follow.

1. A lot of people really do believe in Man made Global warming
2. We are in a financial crisis and people are looking for someone to save their bacon.
3. We are at war with radical Islam bit most people are scared of that idea so they want someone to tell them otherwise and that they can fix the problem.
4 Most people have little or no idea how to critically think and so are sucked in by sob stories and so become pro-gay, pro-choice etc rather than thinking about the consequences of their support for these things.

If I was in these people's shoes I would be sh#t scared too. Thankfully I have learned to think a little more critically and am not sucked in by the media etc. Therefore I believe it is my job to help others see the flawed thinking and get them to crossover. I can't/won't attack people on all fronts so I am focusing totally on Climate change - if I can get them to see that as a fraud then hopefully they will open there eyes to other things.

I am no Politician or great thinker but if I and you, each of us, can change only a few people's minds then it will be a mighty achievement and may be enough to turn the tide.

Cheers

Mel

31 posted on 10/18/2009 9:19:10 AM PDT by melsec (A Proud Aussie)
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To: tsmith130

From what I’ve heard about Snopes, they’re in the Soros/Obama/Axelrod bag as well. Trust it not.


32 posted on 10/18/2009 9:27:07 AM PDT by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice in these troubled times.)
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To: tsmith130; opentalk
SNOPES:


Origins:   The Internet piece quoted above originally began circulating just after the U.S. presidential election of November 2008, and by March 2009 it had picked up an attribution crediting it to David Kaiser, a historian who has authored a number of books, including The Road to Dallas: The Assassination of John F. Kennedy. However, as Mr. Kaiser told us and notes in his blog, History Unfolding, he did not pen this piece:

The first two sentences, beginning, "For the past thirty years," were of course written by me; the rest of the email was not written by me. Its views are in many ways the opposite of my own.
This item has also been mistakenly attributed to Dr. Timothy L. Wood, an Assistant Professor of History at Southwest Baptist University. Like David Kaiser, Dr. Wood told us that he did not write the piece and pointed us to a blog entry disclaiming his authorship.

The original is also commonly attributed to Pamela Geller, having appeared in her Atlas Shrugs blog on 13 November 2008. However, Ms. Geller notes in her introductory statement that "I wish I had written it" and indicates it originated as a reader comment posted to yet another blog.

As far as we know, this piece began as a comment posted to Pat Dollard's blog in November 2008 by an author identified only as "TPS."


33 posted on 10/18/2009 9:30:19 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Double your income. Fire the government)
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To: opentalk

I don’t care who wrote it or who published it, it is true and it’s a warning. I’m passing it around.


34 posted on 10/18/2009 9:32:32 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Double your income. Fire the government)
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To: opentalk
...advocating gun control...

A historian should know that "gun control" was pretty much complete in the Weimar Republic and helped pave the way for Hitler. Once the state had a monopoly on violence the armed troopers abused that power and terrorized the populace. SS were expected to shoot those who verbally disagreed rather than dirty their hands in an arrest. Hitler was the result of gun control, not the cause.

35 posted on 10/18/2009 9:32:38 AM PDT by Poincare
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To: tsmith130

I’ve seen a couple of cases which “Snopes” has gotten wrong; he’s not infallable.


36 posted on 10/18/2009 9:58:38 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: opentalk
americantwilight

I've noticed many similarities to the election of the communist Salvatore Allende in Chile in 1970. They ended up with Pinochet and a military coup. I suggest the State Run Media should especially take notice of the similarities here because they ended up being hunted down and shot in Chile.

37 posted on 10/18/2009 10:06:00 AM PDT by Nateman (If liberals aren't screaming you're doing it wrong.)
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To: ArmedSkeptic

I’m on board with you. At some point, some of us will have to risk taking the hit, much like our Founders did when faced with similar decisions.


39 posted on 10/18/2009 11:04:46 AM PDT by raptor29
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To: Lady Jag

My thoughts also, need to start looking at the big picture and questioning the direction.


40 posted on 10/18/2009 11:16:46 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

Well said. I’m not a historian, just old enough to recall the history, which was fresh in everyone’s minds as I was growing up. And I agree with him.


41 posted on 10/18/2009 11:24:36 AM PDT by MizSterious (Do you not think an angel rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm? John Page, 1744-1808)
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To: tsmith130
Snopes has discounted it as not being written by Dr. Kaiser. (they contacted him).

(http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/proportions.asp)

I think on Snopes Dr. Kaiser, when contacted, said many of the views in the piece are opposite of his.

You are correct.

SNOPES SAYS DR. KAISER DID NOT AUTHOR THIS.

It first appeared as a comment to a blog in Nov 2008, and then later someone added Dr. Kaiser's name and started circulating it by e-mail.

Personally, I agree with what it says. But we shouldn't attribute it falsely. And it loses all credibility when the supposed author says that it is completely contradictory to his own beliefs.

42 posted on 10/18/2009 11:41:29 AM PDT by Rocky (OBAMA: Succeeding where bin Laden failed.)
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To: wendy1946
I’ve seen a couple of cases which “Snopes” has gotten wrong; he’s not infallable.

Getting something wrong is one thing. Actually, reporting that you contacted the supposed author who denied writing it...well, that would be something else entirely. Not sure Snopes would go that far. And to what end would they do that? They provide links to where they think it originated.

I don't disagree with what it says. I have a problem with it because someone has apparently attributed it to someone else who says he didn't write it.

43 posted on 10/18/2009 11:52:08 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: raptor29

check out the last five minutes of this speech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stij8sUybx0&feature=player_embedded#

I think you will be very interested in what he has to say about an upcoming treaty that Obama is going to sign.


44 posted on 10/18/2009 12:34:19 PM PDT by ArmedSkeptic
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To: opentalk

David Kaiser ping


45 posted on 10/18/2009 12:52:31 PM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: berdie

later


46 posted on 10/18/2009 1:35:07 PM PDT by berdie (Hey, Bill Mahr...That's Mrs. Cracker to you.)
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To: WildWeasel

I too am a historian with 16 books published (and a great many un-published) I have produced two award winning documentaries and consulted on several Hollywood films. I concur with everything he wrote. I fear for the nation and I see things coming in the next year or two. I fear we may not have elections in 2012 or if we do they will be meaningless. I also fear war is looming on the horizon. When a nation state tries to re-configure itself and if it is seen as weak other rivals will take advantage of this to gain territory and power. I see this as an old road we are taking and one that can only lead to pain and suffering. The nation looks nothing like the place I grew up in—and I fear it will become worse for my children and grandchildren. Predictions: These are the signs of danger.
1. A Riechstag Fire Moment— a terrible act that would cause Obama to take on extra or war time powers.
2. A reconfiguring of our money—with New Dollars-—to replace old and worthless greenbacks.
3. A re-interpretation of the Constitution to ban all guns from pistols to rifles.
4. Rationing of food and gas.


47 posted on 10/18/2009 1:58:41 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Thanks for the insight. I think we all feel it. I have always felt then whenever a president is selling, he is not representing what America wants.


48 posted on 10/18/2009 2:03:03 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: ArmedSkeptic
When zero goes to Copenhagen to sign America's sovereignty over to the UN and this treaty he signs has authority over our Constitution, air force one should land drop his a## off and leave, VOALLA! PRESIDENT IN EXILE!
49 posted on 10/18/2009 2:04:21 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (Leaders who refuse to lead will be lead by the people)
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To: ArmedSkeptic

Thanks for passing that video along. None of this is surprising to me, been following this sham for decades. Biggest problem is getting enough people to recognize the seriousness of our situation, and the necessity of a serious response.

The one thing I disagree with is our inability to extract ourselves from such a treaty. As long as we have guns, we can defy any international action. I can see an Englishman not understanding that concept, given his country is so far removed from that reality. But the armed American is still a powerful force, one that has yet to demonstrate that power for decades, but one that is stirring.


50 posted on 10/18/2009 2:08:12 PM PDT by raptor29
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