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To: EricT.

I can’t believe some of the comments I’m reading..women should be home barefoot and pregnant and women get special treatment..that is total baloney!!! I’ve met your kind in the AF and they are a minority and didn’t last long. I always wondered what their mothers did to them.


66 posted on 11/16/2009 9:13:17 PM PST by Irisshlass
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To: Irisshlass; EricT.

I’m going to have to agree with EricT. As a woman, you were not in the best position to see the impact such behavior has on the other side of the aisle so to speak. I’ve worked with many women during my 20+ years in the service.

Out of the many, the percentages who were always ready for duty or deployment were in the single percentage. I find that highly suspect considering the married males had a much harder time getting time off for similar issues. Their wives were left to fend for themselves without their husbands support.

Those females who did deploy were given special considerations in almost every facet of the deployment. A full tent used for three women while males were sharing bunks or sleeping on the floor of bldgs. Things like that and many others, unfortunately, I don’t have time to detail them all.

Women demanded the equal opportunity and some use it to their advantage. It’s not systemic, but it is widespread. She needs to be punished with an Article 15 or Court Martialed for missing movement and then discharged. Period.

We’re not all male chauvinists, we’re posting our experiences and observations. By denying our side of the story, you are in essence supporting the notion that women are indeed “special” and require special handling.

I note your comment about “...your kind in the AF and they are a minority and didn’t last long.” Curious comment, since no one mentioned anything about sexism as you purport. Although I will tell you that based on your comments, you appear to be woefully ignorant of the double standards present in just about all facets of society today.

Women have the advantage, men are guilty until proven innocent. That is as a result of the equal opportunity initiatives and other PC claptrap. You want to be treated as an equal? Act like one. Don’t shirk your duties while you are under your service contract, pull your weight, watch your buddies back, etc. You will then be treated like an equal. As I’m sure many are, this female is one of the few who take it public and make a mockery of the values of the military.

Until then, you’re “special”.

SZ


80 posted on 11/17/2009 4:03:59 AM PST by SZonian (Bullets, Bread, Butter)
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To: Irisshlass

Barefoot and pregnant?!?

I said nothing of the sort.

What I said is that women get special treatment in the military, but everyone else was supposed to pretend they are equals.

In my 6 years of active duty and 4 years of drilling reserve status, I worked alongside women of the same rank and rate as I. Not a single one of them did the level of work that I did. They didn’t pull their weight, but got plenty of time to study for advancement exams in the office while I was working my ass off outside.

If women want to serve in the military, they should meet the exact same standards as men. They should have the same physical fitness requirements, they should have the same standing for advancement, they should do the same work as men are expected to do, etc.

In fact, I gave my little sister some advice when she joined the Navy after me. I told her to always pull her weight and don’t let anyone put her in an office for the senior enlisted and officers to ogle at. That advice served her well. She earned a Navy Achievement Medal and received phone calls from her ship asking her “how to” for 6 months after her enlistment expired.


115 posted on 11/17/2009 10:46:15 AM PST by EricT. ("Mankind, when left to themselves, are unfit for their own government." -George Washington)
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