Posted on 11/30/2009 5:04:27 PM PST by Chet 99
LINDSIDE -- The Monroe County Sheriff's Department is investigating an attack that left an elderly man in critical condition.
Sheriff Michael Gravely said the attack happened on Friday, Nov. 27 in the Pine Grove area of Monroe County.
The victim has been confirmed as 70 year old, Lowell Bowden. Sheriff Gravely said Bowden was attacked by four or five dogs of the pitbull breed.
Bowden is listed in critical condition at Roanoke Memorial Hospital. The investigation is ongoing.
Monroe County, Virginia, NOT Michigan.
Let me guess. You advocate eliminating this breed...that will lead to other breeds being eliminated or regulated.
It is sorta like taxing the rich. Everyone is in favor of regulating the breed.....until it is their breed.
I don't know about Chet99, but I conceal carry and wouldn't hesitate to eliminate this breed--one vicious cur at a time. If I find one running loose and it makes the slightest aggressive move, it will join the howling choir invisible in short order. Other dogs I would likely hesitate to use deadly force against. Not a pit bull.
Five pit bulls. Five 9 mm slugs. Problem resolved.
From some of the posts it looks like some people are unhappy you’re picking on their dog. Thicker skin apparently is needed to deal with the reality we see about these dogs every day.
And for those of you folks who are tired of hearing about it, there’s a reason Chet ain’t posting daily stories about chihuahas attacking people or golden retrievers attacking people, or poodles attacking people.
Kill the messenger, that’s what you want to do to Chet, right? Shut up Chet, we’re tired of you finding the stories about pit bulls maiming or killing people that haven’t done thing one to provoke them.
You all are perfectly able to post all the pro-pit bull stories the media prints. I do remember seeing one posted this year, not too long ago.
Hard to believe a pit bull would do such a thing...
The dog belonged to the owner of an adjacent property but was allowed to wander freely. It was captured by animal control, forensic evidence tied it to the killing, and it is now awaiting disposal at the local pound.
Just today in Flora, IL an elderly lady was walking her little dog and was attacked by a pit bull. The poor lady has died as a result. How can this happen in my little neighborhood?
Yet another mere coincidence involving a violent attack by pit bulls.
This never happens
Hopefully he’ll heal from this,,,
Some of these idiots will Not keep their damned dawgs
locked up...
Some of us relish the opportunity to respond to these stories. Posting dog attack stories does nothing to prevent these things from happening, nor does banning a breed, as MANY places have now found. It does NOTHING to decrease the serious attack numbers, and in some places, has led to an increase. That in itself says an awful lot about what the issue is here. Places like Calgary that decided not to ban a breed of dog, but instead created laws enforcing responsible ownership have seen decreases in serious attacks enough to brag very loudly about.
As for the news reporting only pit bull stories, they do have a choice. 13 THOUSAND people are attacked by dogs every day in this country, and those are the ones that are reported through city health records. Why only a select few make it to the news has everything to do with what the business is about. You report on things people will want to read, not everything that’s going on. They have absolutely no obligation to report every dog attack story. They do have an obligation to get the highest ratings, though. I can’t imagine why anyone on this board, of all places, would have a hard time seeing this. The media misrepresents pretty much everything they report on, to the extent that it is almost always necessary to research it for yourself to get the truth.
I have done such that in regards to this issue. I have personally called animal control after stories like this aired to get the facts and have found such a difference in the details that it’s offensive. Many times the dog in question already has a record of biting people, being neglected, or being at large. Most of the dogs are intact, unregistered, and unvaccinated. You can guess that if the owner cares so much, they very well might be untrained and unsocialized as well. This is the real issue, and it is the number one given by the CDC, not breed, despite what people who simply glance over the study might say.
Some of us actually like getting on here and talking about this. I think that if people weren’t so stubborn and irresponsible, we wouldn’t have dog attacks at all. However, over 52 different breeds of dog have taken lives (the vast majority of which were documented as being irresponsibly owned), so I think it’s pretty clear this is an owner issue, and the most popular “thug” dog, which by the way numbers anywhere from five to ten million, will be in the spotlight until something else comes along to overthrow it, just like with the GSD, Dobie, Rottie, and even Bloodhound.
Read my post again, jerkface. I like Chet posting these stories and having people discuss them. You can’t seem to figure out where I’m paraphrasing those that rip on Chet for posting them.
Did you read MY post? I know exactly what you meant by what you wrote. Why the name-calling? Are you twelve?
I did, it didn’t sound like you’re approving of what I wrote.
It doesn’t upset me when people view things differently. I really enjoy politely debating things. I would never want to live in a world where everyone agrees as it would mean we are all done growing. I do agree that some tend to take things personally instead of viewing these stories as an opportunity to educate. That’s a shame, and that certainly isn’t me. Although I might disagree with Chet on what the issue really is, I would never want him to stop because some people are bent out of shape.
I don’t mind people disagreeing with me either, it’s just I read your post and it sounds like you’re upset with what I wrote because you didn’t get what I was saying.
Your “some people actually like discussing these things” comment smacks of you thinking I don’t. If you caught what I was saying I was paroding the people who are tired of Chet posting this stuff. You should re-read your reply again because the way you worded things in certain places it can be taken in a way other than what you intended.
And the issue of course with animals are the owners, ultimately. As they are with just about every domestic pet animal issue. The irresponsibility (deliberate, or not) of them. And also there is a genetic thing with these dogs that needs to be dealt with by spaying and neutering them at sexual maturity. The way they are wired and the way the hormones work on them, they are more prone to take things too far or snap unexpectedly, especially if not fixed. And I base that on the repeating comments of the pit bull owners themselves who state their dog has always been nice and they never did that before - and not the crack head or gang bang owners, but people who have raised the dog in a good home and have been a good and caring owner. I have in the past here asked pit bull owners if getting them fixed really does anything to prevent this behavior, and they have said yes, it does. I expected it because it does with just about every other dog and animal. THe excepions to this general rule are the animals whose adrenal glands produce higher than normal amounts of hormones.
I apologize if it seemed like I was upset, as that was not at all how I wanted to come across. Like I said, I do like talking about this subject, even if it is with people I disagree with.
When it comes to this issue, I also agree that the owners are the problem. Leaving dogs intact creates so many problems, including aggression, but this is just one symptom of owner irresponsibility. Most of these stories involve dogs that are owned by people who not only keep them intact, but let them run around as if it were fifty years ago, or worse, chain them up.
I don’t doubt you have encountered people that cared for their animals that had issues. However, I do think that many people know very little about dog behavior, and most wouldn’t even know their dog was showing signs of aggression, because the dog’s behaviors are opposite what we think they should be in some cases. There hasn’t yet been a single case of proven unprovoked aggression because most experts will say that dogs do not snap. That is something reserved for people, who only do so because they spend such a long time trying to keep their emotions hidden. Dogs don’t need to do this, and they just live in the moment, but people misinterpret things so often they could be inadvertently encouraging the very behavior they wish to avoid.
Have you ever watched Cesar Milan? I don’t agree with all of his training methods, but he is spot-on when it comes to interpreting dog behavior, and has proven time after time that people are unable to see it the way they need to be able to see it. He has taken on some of the most vicious dogs and trained the owners so that the dogs aren’t lashing out for lack of a leader. I think it’s very interesting stuff, and there is just so much to dog behavior that is not only subtle, but so quick that most people don’t even notice it!
I hope that clears up some of the confusion about my previous posts.
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