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Rappers who threw pregnant girl, 15, into canal in murder bid are jailed for 32 years
Daily Mail ^ | 12-04-09

Posted on 12/04/2009 11:53:18 AM PST by bronzey

Below are excerpts from the online chat between Jolie and Ogundele as they plotted murder Jolie: Bruv that girl won't leave me alone. She's taking it far now. It gives me a bellyache thinking about her. Ogundele: Oi I will ****ing kill her yeah, **** her bruv, she's a ****ing *****

Jolie: You're ****ing telling me mate. She's trying to **** up my life. She needs to get out the equation somehow. I don't care if she lives or dies because the consequences of her having a child are too big for me to handle Ogundele: I'm serious, we will plan it Jolie: Have you done this before? Ogundele: Sumfin like dat. Jolie: Then it's hard, it's a big risk. Ogundele: She needs to go tho, I cud do it a easier way. Jolie: What's that? Ogundele: Get a fiend (drug addict) to do it for a couple rocks (cocaine) Jolie: I can already see flaws that's why. Ideally yeah I don't want us to be involved like that Ogundele: Wot if I get da fiend to batter da baby out of her? Jolie: You could do that but that is even baiter (dangerous). Shes gettin stamped out in her stomach Ogundele: I'll get da fiend to duppy (kill) her den. Jolie: Either way a fiend needs to do it probably and do it correctly Ogundele: We will do it den..

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: crime; england; murder; rap; teensex; thuglife

The judge described the victim as a 'bright and attractive girl' who is likely to suffer long-term psychological distress. In a statement to the court, she said: 'I cannot walk out the house without my mum. When I go out in the daytime I am always looking behind me. This often makes me panic and my heart races. 'I do not trust boys any more. This incident took place because I became pregnant to Brandon Jolie. I didn't want to marry him but I did want him to be part of my baby's life. 'Now I don't ever want him to see my baby. How can I explain that his father tried to kill us both just because I was pregnant?'

1 posted on 12/04/2009 11:53:18 AM PST by bronzey
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To: bronzey

Yo, jist keeping it “real”


2 posted on 12/04/2009 11:57:33 AM PST by packrat35 (Ron Paul is a turd!)
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To: bronzey

Rap “music” is pure filth and promotes violence and encourages drug use, police killings, glorifies gangs, encourages people not report crimes to the authorities. It is a cancer and a blot on our culture. They even play this so called music at the gym where I work out. It sounds terrible like people are yelling and shouting at each other. I don’t get it all. I never have and never will.


3 posted on 12/04/2009 11:57:50 AM PST by Welcome2thejungle
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To: bronzey

Seeing it’s England they’ll be out in four ....


4 posted on 12/04/2009 11:58:01 AM PST by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: bronzey

yo girlfriend, pick better sleeping arrangements.

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5 posted on 12/04/2009 11:58:15 AM PST by teeman8r (i liked GWB... really, i did.)
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To: packrat35
I find it interesting that the girl, who cannot be named for various...uh...reasons... her speech patterns aren't like those of the rappers. For example:

"The girl said in evidence: “I went under the water and he pushed my head down. I swallowed lots of water and really thought I was going to die.”

I just find that interesting for some reason. For some reason.

6 posted on 12/04/2009 11:59:15 AM PST by bronzey
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To: bronzey

That’s nothing to joke about, but honestly, look at what we have here in the US and you won’t find anyone but local news talking about it;

http://www.examiner.com/x-30067-Knoxville-Headlines-Examiner~y2009m12d4-George-Thomas-trial-Day-3-in-ChristianNewsom-murders-case-video


7 posted on 12/04/2009 11:59:15 AM PST by jessduntno (Make the Democrats STFU - Stop The Federal Usurpation...dump them out in 2010.)
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To: bronzey

RAP: Retarded African Poetry.


8 posted on 12/04/2009 11:59:18 AM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: bronzey

Definitely candidates for the Tower of London or the London Docks.


9 posted on 12/04/2009 11:59:23 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (This isn't the America I was raised in. Mrs Cleaver where are you?)
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To: bronzey

Sadly if she chose to murder her baby she would be held up as a role model.


10 posted on 12/04/2009 12:01:23 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Welcome2thejungle

Gone are the days of music (listening to Jean Micheal Jaree’s Oxygen as I type this), civil behavior, politeness in public ... and basic manners.

We are in a mad rush to the profane and obscene. American has be come course and tribal. No longer do we aspire to greatness in science art literature.


11 posted on 12/04/2009 12:02:26 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: bronzey

And feminists are silent because they belive she should have just gone ahead and gotten an abortion.


12 posted on 12/04/2009 12:04:16 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Question authority!Who is the University of East Anglia to drive the 'Global Climate Change' agenda?)
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To: bronzey

There are black people born in England who speak the King’s English. And there are white English people who talk like illiterate thugs. So... who can tell.


13 posted on 12/04/2009 12:05:20 PM PST by heartwood
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To: taxcontrol
" No longer do we aspire to greatness in science art literature."

When I was a little boy, I wanted to be an astronaut, as did my friends. Space was so exciting. But today, no one talks or dreams of going into space. The people who are flooding over our borders have no desire to do anything great. To them, it's just "what can you do for me today?"

14 posted on 12/04/2009 12:05:33 PM PST by bronzey
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To: heartwood

Oh, I have a hunch.


15 posted on 12/04/2009 12:06:20 PM PST by bronzey
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To: CodeToad

I think there are white rappers (like M&M who raps about killing his girlfriend) so I don’t agree with the ‘african’ and it’s not really poetry (it’s quite unpleasant to the mind and ear) but I do agree that it is retarded - and I mean that it’s developmentally delayed, intentionally never going beyond childhood desire to repeat works over and over, especially if those words offend everyone and get attention.


16 posted on 12/04/2009 12:06:32 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: bronzey

The would-be murderers got 32 years between them. With parole/early release, they’ll be free before they’re thirty.


17 posted on 12/04/2009 12:08:40 PM PST by heartwood
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To: CodeToad
RAP: Retarded African Poetry

Nice. I call it: Synchopated Tribal Grunting

18 posted on 12/04/2009 12:11:27 PM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: ransomnote
" I do agree that it is retarded "

We went from Mozart to this? When a huge part of your population streams across the border from primitive societies, this is what you get- jungle drums. I'm being serious. In America, a man can be living int he jungles of South America in a hut one day, and the next, he can be walking the streets of Los Angeles.

Thousands of years ago, the Romans had a society that was marvelous. But many people who come to this country have never seen civilization. This is simply the music, if you can call it, of the uncivilized.

I was visiting the Queen Mary the other day, and onboard the ship in the museum, they had a placard on the wall advertising that while on the ship, you could call most of the "civilized world", and this ad came from the 1950's or so. They were still referring to parts of the world as the "civilized world." Amazing.

19 posted on 12/04/2009 12:14:34 PM PST by bronzey
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To: bronzey
One guy got 14, the other 18 years. Why do they add that up for the headline? Doesn’t matter anyway, because they will soon be released on parole—those poor victims of a racist, capitalist society must get another chance in life! Punishment is no solution when society is to blame!
20 posted on 12/04/2009 12:20:40 PM PST by cartan
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To: ransomnote; CodeToad

How about

Retarded
Attempt at
Poetry?


21 posted on 12/04/2009 12:21:13 PM PST by Ro_Thunder ("Other than ending SLAVERY, FASCISM, NAZISM and COMMUNISM, war has never solved anything")
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
The judge described the victim as a 'bright and attractive girl' who is likely to suffer long-term psychological distress.

22 posted on 12/04/2009 12:24:58 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: bronzey; All

23 posted on 12/04/2009 12:25:51 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Obama, Hitler, Stalin: Who are 3 people nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.)
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To: bronzey

More “aspiring” rappers.


24 posted on 12/04/2009 12:26:43 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: CodeToad

LOL! Love it!


25 posted on 12/04/2009 12:26:49 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Obama, Hitler, Stalin: Who are 3 people nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.)
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To: SkyDancer
Seeing it’s England they’ll be out in four ....

Makes me ashamed to be an American to know that we've exported this poison to the rest of the world.

26 posted on 12/04/2009 12:27:43 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: bronzey

A columnist famed for her genius IQ was asked by a reader why modern art had replaced traditional art. THe columnist replied that people were no longer willing to dedicate the needed time and effort to perfecting technique - the old masters labored for decades and invested their lives in their art. The modern art ‘masters’ want their fame and money NOW and they never intend to develop true mastery - it takes too long. SO they decide shocking, offending, or industrial ‘works’ (did you see the film clip where the skill saw cut in a plaster wall, probably done by a workman mounting other paintings, was itself on sale for tens of thousands of dollars in a chic art gallery?)SHOULD be art, and we SHOULD want repulsive, ugly, canvases and sculptures throughout our houses to ‘reject’ bourgeois culture.
I think the same thing happened to music. This lust for ‘egalitarianism’ (people without talent should be as popular and well compensated as people who spend their lives mastering opera or the violin) brought out this attack on music. And dance became gangsta moves because not everyone is graceful and can keep time, but even a baby can mimic gangsta moves which are intentionally jerky and visually displeasing. And poetry - not everyone is Keats, so poetry must be reinvented as a-tonal, a-rhthmic ‘free verse’ - really any Tweet is now considered poetry. We are lucky that we have musical recordings, paintings, books, poems, and dances that have been preserved for us (for now) beause the young don’t even know they exist or why they matter.


27 posted on 12/04/2009 12:37:10 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: ransomnote

All good points. But something has to be said about European culture. That’s just what we do- Europeans could travel to Mars, terraform it and we’d have a beautiful planet and classical music and within days, there would be people clamoring to try and get there.


28 posted on 12/04/2009 12:40:08 PM PST by bronzey
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To: bronzey

If she had pulled a gun on these thugs she would be in the can for far longer.


29 posted on 12/04/2009 12:44:27 PM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution - 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: bronzey

Some other cultures would join us...I think the Japanese, for example, would put in serene gardens, koi ponds, and gentle stringed instrument and flute would waft through the air. I don’t know of equivalent development (complexity, aesthetic appeal) having been achieved in 3rd world countries (seems socioeconomic) but I could be wrong about that. I can’t remember the name of the literary critic who was aghast at the suggestion that he was racist because he focused on refined, gifted literature but he said something like (paraphrasing) “Give me the Shakespeare of the Masai and I shall read him!” We would welcome beauty from all races and ethnicities (we stand in line waiting for hours to get into museums just to admire it) but we just aren’t willing to declare that poor effort and skill equals supreme effort and skill.Well...our side of the aisle is least likely to do so, I think.


30 posted on 12/04/2009 12:52:07 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: Ro_Thunder

That’s good too! lol.

Retards Attempting Poetry!


31 posted on 12/04/2009 12:56:34 PM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: bronzey

Liberals support this kind of crap.


32 posted on 12/04/2009 12:58:16 PM PST by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Can't get rid of me Jim! Well, you can but you've put up with me so far.)
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To: CodeToad

That is great! Made my day.


33 posted on 12/04/2009 1:00:54 PM PST by cameraeye (A happy kufir!)
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To: ransomnote

“I think there are white rappers “

That want to feel special by belonging to the black comunity although they are white.


34 posted on 12/04/2009 1:03:41 PM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: bronzey

“I see a red sash, I kill the man wearing it!!!”

Same should be true for gang signs.
Shoot on sight, shoot to kill.
Problem solved.


35 posted on 12/04/2009 1:26:17 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: taxcontrol

Good luck finding anyone who has heard of Jean-Michel Jarre or Oxygene these days. I’m 28 and only the “weirdest” of my peers are willing to give him a try, but even they haven’t usually heard of him previously.

Goes without saying I tend to prefer the company of the “weird ones”. :-)


37 posted on 12/04/2009 8:22:15 PM PST by Fire_on_High (One Big Ass Mistake America!)
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To: Fire_on_High

The allow me to mention Mike Oldfield. Tubular bells, Five Miles Out, and the Voyager album.


38 posted on 12/05/2009 5:49:15 PM PST by taxcontrol
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