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ScienceNOW Daily News ^ | Thursday, December 17, 2009 | Cassandra Willyard

Posted on 12/19/2009 6:50:32 PM PST by SunkenCiv

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To: Tainan

:’)


21 posted on 12/20/2009 9:22:56 AM PST by SunkenCiv (My Sunday Feeling is that Nothing is easy. Goes for the rest of the week too.)
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To: ApplegateRanch; Red_Devil 232

Thanks! Now we need to ping the gardening pingmeister...


22 posted on 12/20/2009 9:28:17 AM PST by SunkenCiv (My Sunday Feeling is that Nothing is easy. Goes for the rest of the week too.)
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To: wendy1946

A global flood would not do any such thing.


23 posted on 12/20/2009 9:29:09 AM PST by SunkenCiv (My Sunday Feeling is that Nothing is easy. Goes for the rest of the week too.)
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To: wendy1946
Neanderthal DNA is now described as about halfway between ours and that of a chimpanzee.
No, it is not. That has appeared on FR in the past, and is just plain B.S.
24 posted on 12/20/2009 9:31:24 AM PST by SunkenCiv (My Sunday Feeling is that Nothing is easy. Goes for the rest of the week too.)
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...Comparisons with the DNA of modern humans and of apes showed the Neanderthal was about halfway between a modern human and a chimpanzee....

...The publication by Noonan et al. revealed Neanderthal DNA sequences matching chimpanzee DNA, but not modern human DNA, at multiple locations...

...The comparison to chimpanzees with modern humans is 55.0 ±3.0, compared to the average between humans and Neanderthals of 25.6 ±2.2. ...

25 posted on 12/20/2009 10:03:58 AM PST by wendy1946
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Express India isn’t a scientific source.

The Noonan paper doesn’t say that Neandertals are halfway between modern humans and chimps.

The third source doesn’t say that Neandertals are halfway between modern humans and chimps.


26 posted on 12/21/2009 8:12:38 PM PST by SunkenCiv (My Sunday Feeling is that Nothing is easy. Goes for the rest of the week too.)
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To: SunkenCiv

What do you call 25.6 out of 55??


27 posted on 12/21/2009 8:27:48 PM PST by wendy1946
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..The comparison to chimpanzees with modern humans is 55.0 ±3.0, compared to the average between humans and Neanderthals of 25.6 ±2.2. ...
What do you call 25.6 out of 55??
It means that modern living humans are three quarters of the way between Neandertals and chimps.
28 posted on 12/23/2009 5:03:13 PM PST by SunkenCiv (My Sunday Feeling is that Nothing is easy. Goes for the rest of the week too.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I’d call it about half but I’d settle for 2/3; either way there’s zero possibility of our being descended from neanderthals or anything more remote from us than neanderthals, and that includes all other hominids. Basic reality, there’s nothing on this planet we could plausibly be descended from via any evolutionary process.


29 posted on 12/23/2009 6:07:35 PM PST by wendy1946
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Wrong. The study doesn’t do anything at all, except show that some fragments of DNA, supposedly from some very old remains of a single individual, show some supposed variation. The morphological evidence is that Neandertal is the ancestor of modern Europeans. It hasn’t anything to do with evolution, it has to do with breeding, something humans do with alacrity.


30 posted on 12/23/2009 7:32:48 PM PST by SunkenCiv (My Sunday Feeling is that Nothing is easy. Goes for the rest of the week too.)
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To: SunkenCiv
The morphological evidence is that Neandertal is the ancestor of modern Europeans. It hasn’t anything to do with evolution, it has to do with breeding, something humans do with alacrity.

Sorry, but that's dead wrong. With other humans yes, but not with apes or any hominid. That's what that big article of James Shreeve's in Discover was all about, i.e. the anomalous total lack of evidence of crossbreeding under conditions where much would be expected and also the gist of those articles on PlosBiology which note that the neanderthal made no contribution to the present gene pool. The DNA evidence resolves the mystery.

Any two modern humans can breed together because the only differences in the picture are racial or subspecies difference. The neanderthal is not another race of modern man, but a separate species.

31 posted on 12/23/2009 8:42:15 PM PST by wendy1946
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