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To: Quix
“....if he repents, forgive him.”

If part A happens then the rules for part B happen. You can not forgive an unending assault. Thank you Quix for much needed clarification.

69 posted on 01/04/2010 8:37:25 AM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......?)
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To: Earthdweller

The whole counsel of Scripture includes that in ONE of the many verses about forgiveness . . . as I documented.

I expected you to seize on it.

I find that verse tied to the context.

I still believe the principle of forgiving all, regardless, is the Scriptural picture.

CERTAINLY we should seek repentance with ourselves and everyone.

However, I’ll not allow my heart, mind, spirit to be clouded by unforgiveness, REGARDLESS.

And I certainly won’t risk eternal death and damnation because of it.


70 posted on 01/04/2010 8:47:06 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Earthdweller

You seem to think that one verse

TRUMPS ALL

the rest.

I find that illogical.


71 posted on 01/04/2010 8:47:37 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Earthdweller
Sorry to interject myself here...

But, actually, no!

That is only one specific pronouncement of Scripture pertaining to what happens when someone "repents".

A Christian is commanded to "forgive" his enemies PERIOD (not just when his enemy repents) if he wants forgiveness from God (and Christians want and need forgiveness on a daily basis.)

Mat 6:14
For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:

Mat 6:15

But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
As has been said upthread in many places, "forgiveness" is not "forgetting"...and it is not done to benefit the one forgiven. It is done to clean hatred out of your heart.

You cannot love God with all your heart if a portion of your heart is devoted to hating another person.

That said, just because you forgive a person doesn't mean you shouldn't defend yourself, your family or your country against the efforts of that person to harm or destroy you.

When God calls you to battle, he does not call you to a state of emotional rage. He calls you to action...and that requires the putting aside of emotion so that your body, mind, and spirit might be focused on the job at hand.

73 posted on 01/04/2010 9:02:51 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Al Qaeda only hijacked commercial aircraft...Obama hijacked the White House!)
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