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The Coming Confiscation of Retirement Accounts
Stephen A. McIntyre | 01/09/2010 | Stephen A. McIntyre

Posted on 01/09/2010 9:46:42 AM PST by Captain Peter Blood

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To: ak267

Retirement accounts worth trillons in untapped potential new taxes will be way to tempting for dems to pass up

Also it will not be a direct tax on income so the American public won’t know they have robbed until they retire and their nest egg all of a sudden is less than half thought it was


41 posted on 01/09/2010 10:44:01 AM PST by Popman (Election 2010: Congress: your pink slips are coming ............... :)
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To: Popman

I would join the 401 K at the lowest contribution % simply because it gives you a head start on being vested

...uh ...actually no, vesting has nothing to do with contribution rates, only based on employment date and vesting schedule. You can decide not to save until you will be 100% vested, but you are ALWAYS 100% vested in your contributions and returns, so you should save from day one every dime you have to in order to get ALL of the Company matching, since that is FREE MONEY!! Even $0.25 per $1 match in money market will give you a 26% guaranteed return on your savings... not available elsewhere without much larger risk.... ymmv


42 posted on 01/09/2010 10:47:37 AM PST by ElectionInspector
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To: Captain Peter Blood

They start this sh*t and we need to just start killing liberals. The time to be a candy-assed “get-along” weisel will be over.


43 posted on 01/09/2010 10:49:31 AM PST by meyer (Government health care = national strike.)
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To: jimfree
Pitchforks anyone?

I think you'll need something a little more serious than a pitchfork.

44 posted on 01/09/2010 10:52:34 AM PST by meyer (Government health care = national strike.)
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To: Captain Peter Blood
Another trigger event....▼
45 posted on 01/09/2010 10:53:01 AM PST by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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To: Illuminatas

Yes it’s time for the revolt to start. I intend to liquidate my account and buy more guns, ammo and Silver!!!


46 posted on 01/09/2010 10:53:34 AM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Gnomad

We had to do that last year, anyway - construction related business. We had so little in there, it didn’t matter.


47 posted on 01/09/2010 10:56:23 AM PST by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch ( T.G., global warming denier.)
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To: Revelation 911

links are in the article. You will have to manually put them in.


48 posted on 01/09/2010 10:56:49 AM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Captain Peter Blood

I called this in 2008.

I think they’ll be more subtle, though. They’ll claim that new retirees are shocked and made financially unstable because they think they get everything in their accounts and, when they pay taxes, they have far less.

So, they’ll take half the taxes out right away, to reduce the “tax shock” (for our own good, you know, because we’re too stupid).

Once we get used to that, they’ll just say there’s a national emergency and they’ll move all private retirement accounts into the SS account of the holder’s name.

They’ll be able to spend that money as freely as they have squandered our SS accounts.


49 posted on 01/09/2010 10:58:04 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Popman

There is roughly $13 Trillion in investment accounts, yeah they won’t wait for taxes they will take it now and give us an IOU like they did for the Social Security Fund.


50 posted on 01/09/2010 11:00:14 AM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Erik Latranyi

I was one of the ones predicting that that would be one of their “offers.”

It’s even more likely if they make the offer after hyperinflation. They’ll give us the dollar amount back, but it will be worth only a fraction of what it was. Most Americans won’t catch on to that, however.

Rather than being so direct as to purchase bonds with the confiscation, I think they’ll first take an early tax out on it (for our own good, because retirees are shocked to find they have to pay taxes on it) and then later roll the rest over into SS, which gives them easier spending access.


51 posted on 01/09/2010 11:00:33 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: SueRae

One of the ways they’ll “confiscate” some 30-40% of what you have in your account is if you get nervous or “rebel” and take it out, paying the taxes all at once and the early-withdraw penalty on top.

I don’t doubt that this is part of their plan.


52 posted on 01/09/2010 11:02:05 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: screaminsunshine

The three precious metals I recommend everyone stock up on.


53 posted on 01/09/2010 11:02:48 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Bobkk47

I think part of their plan is to float these ideas to make people panic so that they cash out their 401Ks and IRAs, paying both the tax and the penalty. If they can make a lot of people do this, they would get a nice spike in revenue.

If you take your money out, I’d convert quite a bit of it to any of the three precious metals (gold, silver, lead). Because when you dig it up the cash won’t be worth a fraction of what it is when you bury it.


54 posted on 01/09/2010 11:06:05 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/are_congressional_democrats_talking_about_confiscating_ira.html


55 posted on 01/09/2010 11:07:24 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Make no mistake whatever is being said in Public is not what is being said in Private. This is a very Far Left group that is rooted in Marxist Orthodoxy.
It’s all but a prelude to something else and will be presented in manner designed to fool us all.


56 posted on 01/09/2010 11:11:23 AM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Captain Peter Blood
"From each according to his ability to each according to his need" -- Communist Manifesto

The U.S.S.A. will confiscate your 401k and provide a graduated anninuity distribution until you die (later to fix the anninuity to a maximum allowable amount), then seize the remaining balance and provide wealth redistribution for those too stupid, too irresponsible, or poor to plan for their own retirement for themselves. 3rd plank of communist manifest: Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

We will be screwed -- comrades!

57 posted on 01/09/2010 11:24:20 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Captain Peter Blood

What’s the link to Stephen McIntyre’s original article?


58 posted on 01/09/2010 11:39:16 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: wintertime

Delay and deny!


59 posted on 01/09/2010 1:11:32 PM PST by sodpoodle (Stop wasting our wealth and start telling the truth.)
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To: Captain Peter Blood
I have been following this issue for the last six months and believe that the Federal government is moving quickly and quietly to seize 401K/IRA accounts and replace with bonds as stated. They will have no choice once foreign countries stop buying our debt.

Couple this with the new modified 2010 income tax tables and health care cost the standard of living in the US will dramatically decline in the very near future. With the Federal government sucking all available funds out of the economy to expand and fund new programs unemployment will remain high and families will continue to struggle to survive.

60 posted on 01/09/2010 1:27:42 PM PST by reader25
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