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Most available hand gun ammunition during "civil unrest". (Vanity)
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Posted on 01/09/2010 1:39:54 PM PST by GaltTrader

We are doing our annual review of emergency preparedness supplies and procedures. One possible situation is closure of commercial ammunition sources during a civil unrest situation.

We would appreciate opinions on the most likely and second most likely available hand gun ammo in such a situation.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: ammo; ammunition; banglist; bhobanglist; civilunrest; obamanomics; preparedness; survival; survivalism; survivalist
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1 posted on 01/09/2010 1:39:54 PM PST by GaltTrader
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To: GaltTrader

9mm and 22 rimfire.


2 posted on 01/09/2010 1:41:04 PM PST by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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To: GaltTrader

Bookmark


3 posted on 01/09/2010 1:42:51 PM PST by PatriotGirl827 (Pray for the United States of America!)
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To: GaltTrader
I want one of these...



For clean up and disinfection...
4 posted on 01/09/2010 1:43:17 PM PST by Dallas59 (No To O -Time is going by really really really really slow.)
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To: umgud
9mm and 22 rimfire.

I'll second that.
5 posted on 01/09/2010 1:44:21 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: umgud

Shotgun shells and .22 everybody who hunts has em.


6 posted on 01/09/2010 1:44:38 PM PST by screaminsunshine (!!three if by government)
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To: Dallas59

Whoa! Cute!


7 posted on 01/09/2010 1:45:15 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: Dallas59

Yep ... many is the time I’ve gandered about 50 yards away and thought “if I could just throw some fire over there”.


8 posted on 01/09/2010 1:47:34 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: umgud

agreed plus you can get 500 rounds of 22 ammo for less than $20

http://www.cabelas.com/p-0063627212176a.shtml


9 posted on 01/09/2010 1:48:04 PM PST by edzo4 (NoBama 2012)
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To: GaltTrader

Who is “we”?


10 posted on 01/09/2010 1:49:11 PM PST by lack-of-trust
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To: GaltTrader
The Sling Shot Man
11 posted on 01/09/2010 1:49:36 PM PST by Errant
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To: GaltTrader

While 9mm and .22 long rifle will be the “most plentiful”, reliance upon securing your resources from a rapidly dwindling supply would be folly.

Lay in several bricks of .22 long rifle and many 50 rd. boxes of 9mm. Of course this assumes you have the firearms to digest such loads.

But remember one thing, as has been said before, a pistol is only for shooting your way to your rifle.


12 posted on 01/09/2010 1:51:21 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg
But remember one thing, as has been said before, a pistol is only for shooting your way to your rifle.

And in a "SHTF" situation, there will be plenty of both laying all over the ground.

13 posted on 01/09/2010 1:53:10 PM PST by Drew68
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To: GaltTrader

Any needed ammo should be in your CLOSET, not sitting on a store shelf! Don’t think for a moment that Hussein’s stormtroopers won’t demand that stores of all kind stop the sale of ammunition. In fact, don’t be surprised when trucks roll from FFL holder to FFL, cleaning out their inventories. We no longer live in a free country and if you are not heavily armed with several thousand rounds of ammo for every caliber weapon you own, you’d better get it done.


14 posted on 01/09/2010 1:53:12 PM PST by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: GaltTrader

9mm, 38 special and .22 long rifle.


15 posted on 01/09/2010 1:53:24 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Something is seriously wrong when the .gov plans to treat citizens worse than they treat terrorists)
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To: humblegunner; Eaker

ping to 4


16 posted on 01/09/2010 1:53:41 PM PST by mnehring
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To: umgud
9mm 40 S&W and 22 rimfire.

When the shelves are bare of 9mm, .45 and .38/.357 there is always .40 sitting alone on the shelf.

17 posted on 01/09/2010 1:54:45 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg
Very good point as to the use of pistol.

I have long and short weapons in the same chambering, learned that from the cowboys!!!

18 posted on 01/09/2010 1:55:30 PM PST by exnavy (God save the republic)
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To: GaltTrader

I have stockpiled what i need. does not matter as much what will be available when SHTF. I even have some caliber in my closet I don’t have a gun for just to barter.


19 posted on 01/09/2010 1:57:07 PM PST by goldylight
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To: MileHi

Dream on. Buying 40S&W was hell this year - 2009. I’ve still got a backorder from 4 months ago I’m waiting to be filled.


20 posted on 01/09/2010 1:58:38 PM PST by willgolfforfood
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To: edzo4
agreed plus you can get 500 rounds of 22 ammo for less than $20

AND, if you have an accurate rifle you can have an effective range of about 130 yards. With the right rifling and the correct bullet weight(about 60 grains)you can extend that out even further. .22s are highly underrated.

21 posted on 01/09/2010 2:00:32 PM PST by calex59
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To: mnehring; Eaker

Nice landscaping tool!


22 posted on 01/09/2010 2:05:12 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: calex59
I have a couple ruger 10/22s my dad gave me that we use for plinking, and I ordered these 25 round mags, very fun! and they clip together so you can go through 50 rounds pretty quick


23 posted on 01/09/2010 2:09:44 PM PST by edzo4 (NoBama 2012)
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To: exnavy

Yes, I agree with commonality of some firearms.
A Beretta PX-4 Storm w/ a CX-4 Storm Carbine.
Both also accept the same magazines.


24 posted on 01/09/2010 2:10:34 PM PST by gigster
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To: Errant

That man shot bugs off a leaf without harming the leaf... with a slingshot! This video is so worth the watch..amazing!


25 posted on 01/09/2010 2:11:42 PM PST by caww
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To: GaltTrader
When you can have just one.
26 posted on 01/09/2010 2:18:46 PM PST by Errant
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To: GaltTrader

It depends on where you are. If your commercial sources are shut down, The only place you’ll get anything really (without breaking into closed stores i assume?) is if you know someone who reloads. otherwise, all you’re gonna have is whats in your closet.

Otherwise, while 9mm, .40S&W and .38spcl are all popular, you cant find them where I am. Only thing on the shelves Is pretty much shotgun shells, .22lr and 7mm. So, the best option is .22lr, although its a rimfire round and Isn’t going to be very effective besides slight deterrence and maybe hunting squirrels.


27 posted on 01/09/2010 2:21:53 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: willgolfforfood

I’ve noticed the same thing - Dicks and Walmart locally are usually out of 9mm, .45 & 357 mag but nearly always have .40 S&W.


28 posted on 01/09/2010 2:21:59 PM PST by monkeypants (It's a Republic, if you can keep it.)
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To: GaltTrader

If you wait till you need it, its too late.


29 posted on 01/09/2010 2:22:13 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (3V3Ry71N' 084M4 D03z 83N3f17Z MU5l1mz. c01NC1d3nc3?)
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To: exnavy

There is great wisdom in carrying pistol caliber carbines/rifles that will digest your handgun ammo.

One that I personally like is the Marlin Model 1894 in .44 magnum. A Ruger Alaskan .44 backs it up quite nicely.


30 posted on 01/09/2010 2:23:39 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: GaltTrader

Most of the cops will be carrying 9mm.


31 posted on 01/09/2010 2:27:05 PM PST by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

A pistol is actually most useful for dispatching the wounded after the fighting dies down....

The weapons doing the most killing will be shotguns and .30 caliber rifles.


32 posted on 01/09/2010 2:27:37 PM PST by Farmer Dean (every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains)
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To: GaltTrader

Check with your local law enforcement about what ammunition they use. If, in the unfortunate situation, you have to shoot someone the perp can’t say you were using some “super duper survivalist dum-dum cop killer” bullet and will provide a bit of defense from an innevitable lawsuit. Otherwise in a total breakdown of law and order you will have to use what you practice with. There is a saying in my IPSC club “you can’t miss fast enough”. If you’re shooting something you’re not use to shooting and miss everything you aim at, it doesn’t matter what you use.


33 posted on 01/09/2010 2:29:10 PM PST by Organic Panic
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To: GaltTrader

The most available ammo is the ammo that is purchased BEFORE any unrest. I’m not sure exactly what “unrest” is, but should it happen, the most available is what’s already in the magazine.


34 posted on 01/09/2010 2:29:14 PM PST by goseminoles
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

George Carlin: “I’d sure like to set those people on fire over there.”


35 posted on 01/09/2010 2:31:24 PM PST by Mich Patriot
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To: Farmer Dean

If it comes to “dispatching the wounded”, I’m not wasting ammo.


36 posted on 01/09/2010 2:31:36 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: mnehring; humblegunner

Not for indoor use!


37 posted on 01/09/2010 2:33:07 PM PST by Eaker (Where I'm from, "Gang Colors" is Realtree and Mossy Oak. You know what I'm saying hoss. Rule.308.)
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To: Eaker; mnehring
Not for indoor use!

Bull.

I have some really ugly wallpaper in the laundry room that just WON'T peel off.

Bet I could remove it with one of those!

38 posted on 01/09/2010 2:37:37 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner; mnehring
Not for indoor use!

Bull.

You know I meant for normal people not you.

39 posted on 01/09/2010 2:41:16 PM PST by Eaker (Where I'm from, "Gang Colors" is Realtree and Mossy Oak. You know what I'm saying hoss. Rule.308.)
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To: GaltTrader

bump


40 posted on 01/09/2010 2:42:18 PM PST by VOA
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To: calex59

I researched this matter longand hard waaaay before the elections in 2008..
From the “Guns in America 1994” survey:

“The NSPOF-based estimate for the total number of
privately owned firearms is 192 million: 65 million
handguns, 70 million rifles, 49 million shotguns,
and 8 million other long guns (exhibit 4). Of the
handguns, 48 percent were revolvers, 40 percent
semiautomatics, and 12 percent were reported as
“some other type of handgun” by respondents.”

“...68 percent of handgun owners also owned at least one rifle or shotgun...”

I started building my cache...I mean “collection” before the “ammo rush of 2009” kicked in...I wrote down different possible SHTF scenario(s) and analyzed those taking into consideration my family composition (wife, teenagers), residence (suburban, siding construction, open corner, easy access to main arteries and hwys), etc...Then I researched about the most common PISTOL round used by LEA in the USA (9MM), Federal LEA’s (.40). NATO countries use the 9MM ball round (international war rules). Then I thought about what is the best selling battle rifle in the USA (AR-15)/the US military standard round (5.56/.223 Remington). Then I factored in that there are 70-100 million of AK-47 rifles in the world using the 7.62x39mm round. Yet, I felt that I could not ignore the fact that many hunters in North America (as well as snipers) prefer the .308 Winchester/7.62x51mm round, and that Ruger has sold ZILLIONS of 10/22’s. Let us no forget the trusty .38 Special revolver, easy to conceal, and great for backup weapon and females due to low recoil.
Last but not least, the most common home defense weapon in America (I just made that up!) is the .12 GA pump-action shotgun... (which almost all LEA agencies have (I also made that up!! LOL)...
Bottom line for me was to:

1. Be able to hole up inside my property, defend my neighborhood (with extra ammo and weapons to lend to TRUSTED neighbors), to be able to “procure” ammo should I ran out (doubt it...;>), being able to find replacement magazines, ammo, spare parts, etc ANYWHERE in the USA should I have to bug-out, well...you get my drift.

Sooooooo, after watching “Red Dawn” and “Jericho” many times over...I decided to concentrate on the following “delivery platforms”:

AR-15 + 5.56mm/.223 rds - for neighborhood defense/medium range/

AK-47 + 7.62 rds - for swarms of zombies, in case we get invaded by Cubans or the UN....

10/22 + .22 cal rds - for my teenagers, for assassinations, etc, squirrels, birds, rabbit stew...

9MM semi-auto + 9mm rds - CQB/home defense

.38 Spl 6-shooter + .38Spl rds. - back up, wife / safe-room

.12GA - CQB/safe room/bed room defense.

Of course, lest you forget, just like your car cannot run without gas (or vegetable oil, if you have a modified diesel >)), you need BEACOUP ammo AND magazines to feed your machine...comprende???


41 posted on 01/09/2010 2:43:32 PM PST by Patriot2A (SHADOW FIVE-)
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To: GaltTrader

.22LR

9mm

.40S&W (most local police agencies, plus darn near ALL the Feds use it)

Honorable mentions to .38 Special and .45 because some police agencies and such still use it.

For rifles:
.223
7.62x39
.308/7.62 NATO
.30-06
.30-30

Shotguns:
12gauge.


42 posted on 01/09/2010 2:53:13 PM PST by Mr Inviso (ACORN=Arrogant Condescending Obama Ruining Nation)
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To: Patriot2A

I’m more partial towards the .308, a legitimate hunting round that won’t raise too many eyebrows even if you are using an M1A for hunting.


43 posted on 01/09/2010 2:55:27 PM PST by Eye of Unk (Phobos, kerdos, and doxa, said the Time Traveler. “Fear, self-interest, and honor.”)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg; gigster
My common firearms are .45colt, .357remmag, .22LR, those are a few of my favorite things!

I toyed with the idea of a derringer in .45-70, than thought firearms that cause pain to the fire-ee are counter productive.

44 posted on 01/09/2010 2:57:54 PM PST by exnavy (God save the republic)
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To: GaltTrader

bump


45 posted on 01/09/2010 3:04:41 PM PST by VOA
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To: calex59

As it says on the box “ Range one mile, be careful/ (22LR)
9 mm HP was scarce for a while


46 posted on 01/09/2010 3:06:04 PM PST by barb-tex (He aint heavy, he's my brother!)
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To: Eye of Unk
I’m more partial towards the .308, a legitimate hunting round...

NATO 7.62 x 51mm round is same as .308 Winchester. Although it may not be available at local Walmart or Carter Country in a crisis, they can be found lying on the ground next to any former U.N. forces.

47 posted on 01/09/2010 3:10:10 PM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: GaltTrader; Lazamataz
Phased plasma in the 40 watt range.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

48 posted on 01/09/2010 3:11:04 PM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: Patriot2A

goodping


49 posted on 01/09/2010 3:15:19 PM PST by TNoldman (Conservative Values FOREVER! LION = Let's Impeach Obama Now!)
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To: Dallas59

I am one of the last persons to get to fire a flame thrower during AIT training at Fort Polk in 1974.

That thing has more recoil than you would believe. Like trying to hold onto a big water hose. But it was very fun.


50 posted on 01/09/2010 3:20:06 PM PST by fuzzybutt
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