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How many gallons of water needed to raise the Seas?
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Posted on 01/18/2010 2:47:33 PM PST by Former MSM Viewer

There are 140,000,000 sq miles of oceans.

I want to calculate how many acre/feet or in this case sq mile/ft of water would be needed to raise the level of the sea 1'.

One acre/foot is the amount of water it takes to cover 1 acre 1' deep, which is about 323,000 gallons.

There are 640 acres in 1 sq mile.

To raise 1 sq mile 1', it would take 323,000 X 640= 206,720,000 gallons.

There are approximately 140 million sq miles of ocean on our Blue planet.

To raise 140 million sq miles 1' it would take 140,000,000 X 206,720,000=

28,940,800,000,000,000 gallons.

This is where I need some mathematical help.

What is the volume in cu ft or how many Mt Everests = almost 29 quadrillion gallons of water.

Remember, 29 qualdrillion gallons will only raise the seas 1'. The Global Warming crowd says the seas will rise over 6' if we dont pay up...


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: fraud; warming
where is all this water supposed to come from?
1 posted on 01/18/2010 2:47:34 PM PST by Former MSM Viewer
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To: Former MSM Viewer

One gallon equals 0.1336806 cubic feet.


2 posted on 01/18/2010 2:49:10 PM PST by lacrew (The 274th trimester is a very late procedure)
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To: Former MSM Viewer

Antarctica has about 7 million cubic miles of ice. That’s 7.7 quintillion gallons.


3 posted on 01/18/2010 2:50:41 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Gore is the fifth horseman of the apocalypse. He rides an icy horse bringing cold wherever he goes.)
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To: Former MSM Viewer

Yall have too much time on your hands. :o)


4 posted on 01/18/2010 2:50:48 PM PST by goseminoles
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To: Former MSM Viewer

Good Question for Algore.


5 posted on 01/18/2010 2:50:55 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: lacrew

I think I’ve done these calculations before, based on what I could find for volume of land ice...and the 6 ft number is true, if it all melts...but alot of libs still live in Florida without fear.


6 posted on 01/18/2010 2:52:25 PM PST by lacrew (The 274th trimester is a very late procedure)
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To: Former MSM Viewer

I’m still trying to figure out how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop.


7 posted on 01/18/2010 2:52:41 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Former MSM Viewer

I think that a large fraction of the rise is supposeed to come from thermal expansion of seawater.


8 posted on 01/18/2010 2:52:55 PM PST by bagman
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To: Former MSM Viewer
Taking the exact opposite tack -- people have worked out a fairly simple plan to build a canal from the Mediterranean to the Quattara Depression (in Libya). Any rise in sea level (although, as you point out, any such rise seems unlikely), but any such rise which did occur could be easily sent out into the depression where it would quickly evaporate. Substantial hydro-electric power could be generated as well.

Basically, no sensible person should worry about any rise in sea levels. It ain't gonna happen.

9 posted on 01/18/2010 2:53:34 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (We have the 1st so that we can call on people to rebel. We have 2nd so that they can.)
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To: Former MSM Viewer

one acre foot equals 325851.428571 gallons. You do the math.


10 posted on 01/18/2010 2:53:56 PM PST by dblshot (T.V. - Why do you think they call it programming?)
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To: Former MSM Viewer

Less than one if you can figure out how to measure it!


11 posted on 01/18/2010 2:54:39 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Former MSM Viewer

****** “ where is all this water supposed to come from? “ *****

At a dollar a gallon 0bama and Algore could find it

TT


12 posted on 01/18/2010 2:54:55 PM PST by TexasTransplant (Parse every sentence uttered by a politician)
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To: Former MSM Viewer

Treat the sq miles of the oceans as the area of a circle and then use the volume of cylinder to raise the height of the oceans to any measurement you want.

I did this a few weeks ago. For instance, for the world oceans to rise 6 inches, it would take 216 Greenlands to completely melt.


13 posted on 01/18/2010 2:55:20 PM PST by avacado
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To: Former MSM Viewer

so apparently every ice cube, frost, snow, and glacier on Earth would have to melt?


14 posted on 01/18/2010 2:55:42 PM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: Former MSM Viewer

Don’t forget, as the oceans rise, even by 1 foot, the 140,000,000 sq miles of oceans will increase.


15 posted on 01/18/2010 2:55:44 PM PST by vamoose
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To: TexasCajun

but, but, but.... what about Algore peeing in the ocean?
Psssst, he is working on that - Global Flooding
He got away with Global Warming, meeeedia are already sharpening their pennnnns and another Nobel is aroud the cornerrrr,


16 posted on 01/18/2010 2:56:50 PM PST by Leo Carpathian (fffffFRrrreeeeepppeeee-ssed!)
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To: Former MSM Viewer

How much explosives would it take to lower an island?


17 posted on 01/18/2010 2:58:44 PM PST by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice)
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To: Former MSM Viewer

Why bother? If the caps melt, the weight of the water will be spread over the whole ocean (9/10ths of the earth’s surface) instead of the caps. The caps will rebound from the weight removal while the cean floor will be more compressed from the weight addition. End result; no change in the height of the oceans.

PS: The glacial areas are STILL rebounding upwards after the loss of the weight of the last glacier that covered the area.


18 posted on 01/18/2010 2:58:48 PM PST by HD1200
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To: lacrew
one gallon = 231 cubic inches
12 x 12 x 12 = 1738 cubic inches in a cubic foot.
1738/231 = 7.4805194805194805194805194805195 gallons cu foot.

19 posted on 01/18/2010 2:59:58 PM PST by dblshot (T.V. - Why do you think they call it programming?)
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To: TexasCajun

Al Gore doesn’t answer questions—because he knows he can’t defend his lying position.


20 posted on 01/18/2010 3:00:06 PM PST by taillightchaser (When a democrat says "The American people" you know the next words out of his mouth will be lies.)
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To: Former MSM Viewer
If you take the ice caps (non-floating) of Greenland and Antarctica, do the math on water having less volume than ice, assume no increase in atmospheric water. You come up with about 37 feet of ice that needs to melt off of the entire areas to increase the seas by 1 foot.

Now, if you look at Antarctica, you will find that most of the continent never gets anywhere close to 32 degrees. With that in mind, how does warming Antarctica from -5 to -4 or even -1, melt the ice cap?

21 posted on 01/18/2010 3:04:32 PM PST by SampleMan (No one should die on a gov. waiting list., or go broke because the gov. has dictated their salary.)
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To: Former MSM Viewer
Presumably, if the sea level rises, that increases the water surface of the earth exposed to the sun. Q. If the sea level rises, will there necessarily be more evaporation of the sea surface? if so, then would there be more atmospheric moisture? if so, would the additional atmospheric moisture act to cool the surface of the planet? if so, would the arctics pile up ice again reducing the sea level to where it once was? if so, is the earth's climate self regulating? No I don't know earth sciences very well, but what would physics imply or even equate.
22 posted on 01/18/2010 3:07:46 PM PST by dps.inspect
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To: HD1200

Great info! I never thought about this aspect before.


23 posted on 01/18/2010 3:08:15 PM PST by Dem Guard (<src img="http://home.granderiver.net/~capnjim/fun/tiphat.gif">)
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To: Former MSM Viewer

The forgotten item in all these calculations is that most of the ice is floating on water displacing the same amount of water by weight as it weighs. Ice is less dense than water if it were not then the bottoms of lakes would freeze first killing al the fish. When ice melts the water level stays the same. Check it out with a brimful glass of ice water.


24 posted on 01/18/2010 3:08:20 PM PST by scottteng (IMPEACH OBAMA I am Jim Thompson)
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To: Former MSM Viewer

Also remember Ice has more volume than water. So, as it melts, it will result in a lesser amount of liquid water by about 8%. (Mass density of ice is .92 g/ml vs 1 g/ml for water)


25 posted on 01/18/2010 3:10:31 PM PST by pfflier
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To: dfwgator

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26 posted on 01/18/2010 3:22:16 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Former MSM Viewer

Ask the makers of the movie Waterworld.


27 posted on 01/18/2010 3:24:45 PM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: lacrew

The sea level would not increase instantly. So they would have a chance to move inland. As well as everyone else that lives near the ocean.


28 posted on 01/18/2010 3:29:26 PM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: Former MSM Viewer

One simple fact that the global warming crowd ignores, Ices expands and when it warms up it’s volume decreases.

If all the ice in the world melted the sea level would go down not up. Not to mention the higher temperatures would cause more water to be vaporized.

It is just bad science from someone that failed to get a degree in theology.


29 posted on 01/18/2010 3:30:08 PM PST by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: Former MSM Viewer

Gallons? Too easy. How about teaspoons? ;’)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2427820/posts?page=34#34


30 posted on 01/18/2010 3:33:23 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: Former MSM Viewer

I posed this to my grandson, who has his Masters in Mechanical Engineering from the University of Michigan. He offers the following:


Let me begin by saying that I am using the following rough assumptions.
http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2000/HannaBerenblit.shtml has a reasonable estimate of the volume of polar ice caps (33 million cubic kilometers)
Ice is about 9% less dense than water (source: wikipedia)
So let’s start.

It was previously computed that 29 quadrillion gallons of water would raise sea level 1 foot. Cool. That’ll never happen, I mean that’s a ton of water right?

Let’s see what the Ice Caps have to say about that.

As stated as an assumption, we will assume 33 million kilometers of frozen ice.
converting that to cubic meters of ice, we get 3.3*10^16 cubic meters of ice.
Now we melt that to WATER, which is 9% less dense
that leaves us with 3.003*10^16 cubic meters of WATER.

Converting cubic meters to gallons (264.1721 gal/cubic meter)
gives us 7.933*10^18 gallons of water.

Divide that by the amount of water to raise sea level 1’ (29 quadrillion) gives us
7.933*10^16 / 2.9*10^16 = 273.55476

or about 274’ of raised sea level.

now, take three case
The Ice caps are all above sea level already, in which case ALL of this water would raise the sea level (answer = 274 feet)
The Ice caps are like icebergs, with 90% underwater, already (answer = 27.4 feet)
Most likely, a lot but not all ice is above water, call it 50/50 (137 feet)
Case 1 and Case 3 probably drown all of Miami, Manhattan, New Orleans, Netherlands, most of the Caribbean, never mind what it does to the climate and weather.

Case 2 still destroys New Orleans, probably the Netherlands, and probably seriously hurts Manhattan and miami. If nothing else it is going to mess with the weather to have all that extra water in places like Mexico and Africa, and Southeast Asia.

Oh yeah Southeast Asia probably gets hit pretty hard by Case 1 and Case 3 as well. I wonder what all that water does to the deserts of the Middle east.

Anyway there you go.
- Show quoted text -


31 posted on 01/18/2010 3:36:27 PM PST by khenrich (And people thought Jimmy Carfter was our worst president........)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

You cheated!


32 posted on 01/18/2010 3:40:19 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: KarlInOhio

Your numbers and the original poster’s numbers are all we need to know to come to the conclusion that there’s nothing humans could possibly do to create the disaster that the liberals fear, even if we all tried our best to bring it about.

The earth is simply too big and we humans are too miniscule a part to be a factor in that way.


33 posted on 01/18/2010 3:44:04 PM PST by Two Kids' Dad (((( ))))
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To: ClearCase_guy

But if it evaporated we would quickly run out of water!
:)


34 posted on 01/18/2010 4:20:37 PM PST by GoDuke
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To: TexasCajun
Good Question for Algore.

Al Gore flunked out of divinity school. I suspect he can't balance his checkbook without removing his shoes & socks, let alone do simple mathematical calculations to figure the rise in sea levels.

35 posted on 01/18/2010 4:47:19 PM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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