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Why Women Are Called Sluts When They Sleep Around, But Men Arenít
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Posted on 02/08/2010 10:07:18 PM PST by libh8er

You often hear women, especially feminists and sluts, complaining about how it’s such an unfair double standard that men are called studs when they sleep around, yet women are called sluts. It’s really not a double standard though, because both scenarios are pretty different in terms of circumstances and consequences. I can think of at least three crucial differences.

First, sleeping around is easier for women. Regardless of how you feel about promiscuity, we can all agree that a guy who manages to rack up a lot of sexual partners has to have some skills. It’s challenging for men to rack up partners, even for men with low standards. It requires a certain amount of social intelligence, interpersonal skills, persistence, thick skin, and plain old dumb luck. For women to rack up a lot of partners, however, it pretty much only requires a vagina and a pulse. So a man whoring it up and a woman whoring it up are hardly the same thing because for a woman to get a lot of partners is absolutely no challenge, hence no one respects it. It’s just viewed as a lack of self-discipline when women indulge in lots of sex partners because they can get new ones whenever they want. When men get lots of sex partners, it’s respected more because getting lots of sex partners, for men, is a challenge. This is just human nature: people gain respect for those who accomplish challenging feats while they consider those who overindulge in easily obtained vices as weak or flawed.

Second, women do more harm by sleeping around than men do. Say a man sleeps around with a bunch of different women. He is definitely doing harm to these women if he pretends to be monogamous while sleeping around with these multiple partners. He may cause them emotional pain by his promiscuity. He may cause unwanted pregnancy. He may spread venereal diseases. When women sleep around, however, they can cause not only these same ill effects but one additional crucial ill effect: the risk of unknown parentage. If one guy sleeps around with five women, each of whom is monogamous to him, and they all get pregnant, it’s a safe bet as to who the father is. If one woman sleeps around with five men and gets pregnant, it could be anybody’s baby. And if a man is tricked into raising a baby that isn’t his, he is basically investing his time, money, estate and property to provide for a child that is not carrying on his DNA into the next generations, which is a costly mistake from an evolutionary standpoint. Our two basic primal drives are to survive and to reproduce, and promiscuous women traditionally make it hard for a man to know for sure whether he is truly reproducing or simply raising another man’s child. Men stand a lot more to lose from promiscuous women than the other way around. And it’s no picnic for the child to not know who his real father is either. And it’s a mess for the women carrying on the deception as well. Or just look at any random episode of the Maury show if you don’t believe me. Considering that the DNA test and the birth control pill had not existed for most of human history, meaning that there were no reliable ways to prevent pregnancy or prove parentage, society for many centuries had a vested interest in preventing promiscuity among women and society accomplished this by creating the slut stigma. And even though the creation of birth control and DNA tests have made this less of a risk than the past, longstanding traditions and customs are not easy for society to break.

Third, men have evolutionary reasons to be programmed to sleep around. A lot of women roll their eyes when they hear that men are “hard-wired” to sleep around. But from an evolutionary standpoint, it makes total sense. If the two primal drives of humans are to survive and to reproduce, nothing leads to maximum reproduction like one man sleeping with multiple women. If one women slept with many men, in a nine month period, she would still only get pregnant just once. Nine months of rampant promiscuity would give the same result as nine months of highly sexed monogamy: one pregnancy. Now if one man sleeps with many women, you can get many pregnancies. The more women he sleeps with, the more pregnancies. So from an evolutionary standpoint, there are concrete advantages to men sleeping around with multiple partners rather than women.

These three reasons are probably why the longstanding tradition came about of men being rewarded for multiple partners while women get socially punished for similar promiscuity. Of course all this is gradually changing, but we’re up against centuries of tradition here, so don’t expect any dramatic reversals or anything.

Now a lot of people are going to read all this and dismissively think Oh this guy is just being a typical man and trying to justify every man’s dream: cheating and polygamy. But believe it or not, I don’t really think male polygamy is all it’s cracked up to be. Despite what most people assume, polygamy actually may benefit women more than men. Most dudes think a society of widespread polygamy (specifically polygyny, where one man can have several women) would just be a utopia of every guy sleeping with every woman under the sun. Some economists think otherwise though. The basic argument is that in a world where po

lygamy was acceptable, most of the women would be hoarded by the most successful men. As explained in this Psychology Today article:

The history of western civilization aside, humans are naturally polygamous. Polyandry (a marriage of one woman to many men) is very rare, but polygyny (the marriage of one man to many women) is widely practiced in human societies, even though Judeo-Christian traditions hold that monogamy is the only natural form of marriage…..Relative to monogamy, polygyny creates greater fitness variance (the distance between the “winners” and the “losers” in the reproductive game) among males than among females because it allows a few males to monopolize all the females in the group. The greater fitness variance among males creates greater pressure for men to compete with each other for mates. Only big and tall males can win mating opportunities. Among pair-bonding species like humans, in which males and females stay together to raise their children, females also prefer to mate with big and tall males because they can provide better physical protection against predators and other males.

In societies where rich men are much richer than poor men, women (and their children) are better off sharing the few wealthy men; one-half, one-quarter, or even one-tenth of a wealthy man is still better than an entire poor man. As George Bernard Shaw puts it, “The maternal instinct leads a woman to prefer a tenth share in a first-rate man to the exclusive possession of a third-rate one.” Despite the fact that humans are naturally polygynous, most industrial societies are monogamous because men tend to be more or less equal in their resources compared with their ancestors in medieval times. (Inequality tends to increase as society advances in complexity from hunter-gatherer to advanced agrarian societies. Industrialization tends to decrease the level of inequality.)

When there is resource inequality among men?the case in every human society?most women benefit from polygyny: women can share a wealthy man. Under monogamy, they are stuck with marrying a poorer man.

The only exceptions are extremely desirable women. Under monogamy, they can monopolize the wealthiest men; under polygyny, they must share the men with other, less desirable women. However, the situation is exactly opposite for men. Monogamy guarantees that every man can find a wife. True, less desirable men can marry only less desirable women, but that’s much better than not marrying anyone at all.

Men in monogamous societies imagine they would be better off under polygyny. What they don’t realize is that, for most men who are not extremely desirable, polygyny means no wife at all, or, if they are lucky, a wife who is much less desirable than one they could get under monogamy.

So basically, women complain about how men are allowed to sleep around and they aren’t. Meanwhile men wish polygamy had widespread acceptance. And the truth may actually be that male polygamy benefits the average women more than the average man. Who’da thunk?


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1 posted on 02/08/2010 10:07:18 PM PST by libh8er
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To: libh8er
Second, women do more harm by sleeping around than men do.

Dumbest statement on FR ever.

2 posted on 02/08/2010 10:11:00 PM PST by HospiceNurse
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To: libh8er

You forgot the barf alert


3 posted on 02/08/2010 10:12:04 PM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: libh8er
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4 posted on 02/08/2010 10:13:23 PM PST by Kansas58
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5 posted on 02/08/2010 10:14:36 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: libh8er

I thought they’re called man-ho’s?


6 posted on 02/08/2010 10:16:23 PM PST by max americana
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To: CaptainK
You forgot the barf alert

Huh ? You mean you disagree ? :)

7 posted on 02/08/2010 10:17:03 PM PST by libh8er
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To: HospiceNurse

I once paternity tested a woman when I was a prosecutor who had previously been tested 7 times and did not know who the father of her child was. So we tested her, the rugrat and prospective baby daddy #8 and ... he was not the daddy. She told my paralegal that there were a lot of guys at that party that night [the night she said her son was conceived] and she still wasn’t sure who the father was. I kid you not, it was like a Maury show come to life.

So yeah there is definite harm in a woman giving it to whoever comes at them. That kid is going to grow up not knowing who is father is and if he does find out there’s going to be one hell of stigma attached.


8 posted on 02/08/2010 10:17:28 PM PST by Feasor13
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To: HospiceNurse

You are in de NILE!


9 posted on 02/08/2010 10:22:57 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: Feasor13

Words fail.


10 posted on 02/08/2010 10:24:12 PM PST by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch ( T.G., global warming denier.)
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To: libh8er

Wish I had your (or his) problems.


11 posted on 02/08/2010 10:25:21 PM PST by supremedoctrine (Time is the school in which we learn that time is the fire in which we burn.)
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To: libh8er

Wilt, is that you?


12 posted on 02/08/2010 10:25:23 PM PST by HerrBlucher (Jail Al Gore and the Climate Frauds!)
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To: HospiceNurse

Yeah guys.. It’s time to “slut ourselves out” to all those ladies clawing at the door to get at us. Damn, that estrogen makes them so aggressive (oh, my apologies.. So “assertive”).. They just WON’T leave us alone!!!


13 posted on 02/08/2010 10:25:43 PM PST by historyrepeatz
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To: libh8er

Disagree is too mild a word.


14 posted on 02/08/2010 10:25:45 PM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: libh8er

Polygamy is not the panacea people think it would be. Look at David and Solomon in the bible. Not really shangra-la.

Anyways, one wife that always is unhappy about something and lets you know about it, is enough for any one man. God is merciful in marriage being between a man and just one woman.


15 posted on 02/08/2010 10:27:00 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: libh8er
Its the double standard.
I think its because men can not believe that women can sleep around without being emotionally involved. So it is their label for women, to make themselves feel superior.
16 posted on 02/08/2010 10:27:40 PM PST by svcw (If you are going to quote the Bible know what you are quoting.)
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To: libh8er
You often hear women, especially feminists and sluts, complaining about how it’s such an unfair double standard that men are called studs when they sleep around, yet women are called sluts.
There are several derogatory words used for men when they sleep around.
For instance..."He's a dog" comes to mind.
3. noun - hound, player, one who seeks meaningless sex with multiple partners

And if someone said a woman was "easy"...well, why bother going further. Too many ways to shoot this thing down.

17 posted on 02/08/2010 10:28:10 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Feasor13
So...did you ever find babydaddy?
18 posted on 02/08/2010 10:29:07 PM PST by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: CaptainK

the sad thing is the value systems I see in the students in Elementary, jr high & sr. high today.

Various sex activities are openly practiced as part of social discourse and just not considered taboo. There are some young people that have been able to fight the tide & stay half way unaffected but they seem to be truly in the minority.

The idea of “it’s no big thing” is seemingly the battle cry.

If you doubt this ask teachers, check out Facebook, read the My space & other blogs.


19 posted on 02/08/2010 10:32:42 PM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell God how big your storm is...Tell the storm how big your God is!)
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To: randog

Nope. Never did. And the State was paying for her housing, health care, food, etc, etc. I told one of the local cops about it and she laughed and said she was on patrol one night and drove by this ladies place and her blinds or curtains (not sure which) were open. Well the cop could see her having sex in her home with some dude from the street. She had to stop and beat on her door to tell her to close her curtains or she was going to be cited for indecent exposure.

I also had her oldest son on my juvenile docket. The kid was 9 when I started getting police reports on him and I finally charged him at 10. He was too young to place in juvie but it was just the beginning. The school district was putting a lot of pressure on the school liaison officer to get the kid out of school but the judge wouldn’t do it.


20 posted on 02/08/2010 10:34:29 PM PST by Feasor13
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To: svcw

It’s hardly a double standard.

You want a double standard, ladies night at the local bar is.

Double standard is not having any say if a child of yours is going to be born or not.

Double standard is always assuming kids with mom is the right way to go.

Double standard is that in any matter of sex between consenting adults, women are always portrayed as innocent and pure victims that need protection and men are always filthy gutter pigs that are only out for one thing.

Double standard is on the word of one woman a man can have his whole life destroyed, yet when the woman is found guilty of falsely accusing a man of rape she gets a tiny societal slap on the wrist and apologists for her come out to defend her (she’s ill, she made people aware of the bigger problem, etc).


21 posted on 02/08/2010 10:34:47 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: libh8er

The feminist policies of our wealthiest business, political and academic families in both political parties have nearly destroyed fatherhood in the USA. Look for more interesting election results ahead. More “progressive” feminist candidate line-ups will be presented, and conservative candidates will be barred from debates. So conservatives will continue to drop the vote. After the big default, we might see some decent leaders.


22 posted on 02/08/2010 10:35:54 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: Feasor13
She told my paralegal that there were a lot of guys at that party that night [the night she said her son was conceived] and she still wasn’t sure who the father was.

Maybe she was protecting the real father for some reason.

23 posted on 02/08/2010 10:37:11 PM PST by wideminded
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To: Feasor13

Wow...a real stand-up citizen.


24 posted on 02/08/2010 10:38:12 PM PST by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: libh8er
Why Women Are Called Sluts When They Sleep Around

Not true. A slut sleeps with everyone. A bitch sleeps with everyone but you.

25 posted on 02/08/2010 10:39:20 PM PST by killjoy (Life sucks, wear a helmet.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Yea, those are all double standards and it sucks.


26 posted on 02/08/2010 10:39:49 PM PST by svcw (If you are going to quote the Bible know what you are quoting.)
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To: wideminded

She wasn’t smart enough to protect him. They kind went through the same thing with her first son. They got that one on the third or fourth try. It was more like she was less than discriminating when it came to allowing gentlemen reproductive access to her lady parts.


27 posted on 02/08/2010 10:40:04 PM PST by Feasor13
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To: DollyCali
"the sad thing is the value systems I see in the students in Elementary, jr high & sr. high today."

And too many of the public school teachers and single mothers are the cause of the problems. The experiment in "socializing" the kids and divorcing them from their fathers with false accusations (no-fault divorce, cohabitation, no proper body of evidence required) has repeatedly and increasingly failed for decades. I worked with the teachers. Most of them are crazy with counter-culture indoctrination.


28 posted on 02/08/2010 10:43:54 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: libh8er

Those “men” are not exactly called sluts, they are called HOMOSEXUALS.

Ever seen those hollywood flicks with the chicks taking bubble bath with a gay friend because they feel safer like with daddy when around them? When we all know they are the first prime rapists there is out there.

Why would they mind consciousness control them to a bubble bath in the first place? tsk tsk tsk.


29 posted on 02/08/2010 10:47:19 PM PST by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: Feasor13

And that is not equally the fault of the father?


30 posted on 02/08/2010 10:48:25 PM PST by Irish Rose (Will work for chocolate.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Agreed.

I’m often called a traitor by other women for defending men against such double standards.


31 posted on 02/08/2010 10:54:36 PM PST by Ellendra (Can't starve us out, and you can't make us run. . . -Hank Jr.)
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To: Irish Rose

What that the kid is a hoodlum or the other kid did not know who his father was? There’s a lot of kids running wild with little interaction or input from their fathers. The underclass is full of it.


32 posted on 02/08/2010 11:14:39 PM PST by Feasor13
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To: Tuscaloosa Goldfinch

>Words fail.

Next time, just leave your post blank.


33 posted on 02/08/2010 11:23:10 PM PST by ROTB (Repeal to 1789, for the children. The moslems, however, still support him b/c he’s pro-terror.)
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To: TheMom; Xenalyte; Hap; pax_et_bonum; LUV W

Slut ping.


34 posted on 02/08/2010 11:30:25 PM PST by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: libh8er

This is obviously some Femi-Nazi rant.
Not worth wasting time on.

“Looks to me like a severe case of penis envy, Doc.”


35 posted on 02/08/2010 11:34:11 PM PST by MtnMan101 (THE PROBLEM WITH SOCIALISUM IS THAT YOU EVENTUALLY RUN OUT OF OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY)
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To: libh8er
"Why Women Are Called Sluts When They Sleep Around, But Men Aren’t"

BTW, that's a regular topic brought up by instructors in university women's studies courses. Most of the rest are "males do this," "males do that" topics to turn the more impressionable (retar...er, accelerated) students generally against men.


36 posted on 02/08/2010 11:43:23 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: MtnMan101

Did we read the same article ? It’s quite the opposite.


37 posted on 02/08/2010 11:52:48 PM PST by libh8er
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To: libh8er
Why Women Are Called Sluts When They Sleep Around, But Men Aren’t




They aren't called sluts because they are called dogs.
38 posted on 02/09/2010 12:03:05 AM PST by ari-freedom (Chris Wallace: I can tell you, Ronald Reagan would never have quit.)
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To: libh8er; Lazmataz
Why are guys who sleep around considered studs while women who do the same are considerd sluts? Well, it'S because if you have a key that will open any lock it is called a Master Key and regarded highly. However, if you have a lock that can be opened by any key then it is regarded as a very $h!tty and useless lock.

(Hiding underneath the table)

39 posted on 02/09/2010 12:04:22 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: libh8er

I think women are more precious than men and it’s simply graphically unseemly when they lack discretion more so than when a man does

I know when it comes to cheating it is much harder on kids to know mom is compromised than daddy

humanity has double standards..tuff

but no worries ..looks like young women today are working extra hard to outslut men


40 posted on 02/09/2010 12:07:46 AM PST by wardaddy (Book of Eli.....awesome.....Denzel Washington was perfect....Mila Kunis is smoking..nothing PC)
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To: svcw

oh pure BS

we don;t need to label women to feel superior

any man who loves women doesn’t need to feel superior....we are superior in some ways but not in others...but that is for a purpse..God’s....what we really need is to feel needed or better yet wanted

u married son?

women are fickle creatures let me warn ya


41 posted on 02/09/2010 12:10:32 AM PST by wardaddy (Book of Eli.....awesome.....Denzel Washington was perfect....Mila Kunis is smoking..nothing PC)
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To: Secret Agent Man

you can tell the ones here with zero experience with gals can;t ya?


42 posted on 02/09/2010 12:11:13 AM PST by wardaddy (Book of Eli.....awesome.....Denzel Washington was perfect....Mila Kunis is smoking..nothing PC)
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To: killjoy

“Not true. A slut sleeps with everyone. A bitch sleeps with everyone but you. “

And an angel sleeps with no one but you, I guess.


43 posted on 02/09/2010 12:13:24 AM PST by Persevero
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To: Feasor13; Secret Agent Man; Clemenza

that is the key to this...they get pregnant and they are more “invaded” in sex and are more vulnerable

it’s just different.....like puppies and kittens

the graphic image of a slutty woman is more like Last Exit to Brooklyn than a manslut is to Shampoo

anyone seen LATB knows what I mean...whew


44 posted on 02/09/2010 12:14:10 AM PST by wardaddy (Book of Eli.....awesome.....Denzel Washington was perfect....Mila Kunis is smoking..nothing PC)
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To: Allegra

lol..big lol...damn...


45 posted on 02/09/2010 12:15:00 AM PST by wardaddy (Book of Eli.....awesome.....Denzel Washington was perfect....Mila Kunis is smoking..nothing PC)
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To: Ellendra

Bump (does anyone still say that?)


46 posted on 02/09/2010 12:15:31 AM PST by wardaddy (Book of Eli.....awesome.....Denzel Washington was perfect....Mila Kunis is smoking..nothing PC)
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To: spetznaz

that was actually a decent allegory spetz


47 posted on 02/09/2010 12:16:36 AM PST by wardaddy (Book of Eli.....awesome.....Denzel Washington was perfect....Mila Kunis is smoking..nothing PC)
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To: ari-freedom

Now that Sanford’s wife is writing a book in direct contrast to wanting to be left alone for the kids (her claim) and she doesn’t need the money I am starting to understand him maybe wanting someone else.

Edwards....Elizabeth is as nasty as he is. But Edwards sucks for denying his child....

Woods....now he is a real dog. A jerk.


48 posted on 02/09/2010 12:19:15 AM PST by wardaddy (Book of Eli.....awesome.....Denzel Washington was perfect....Mila Kunis is smoking..nothing PC)
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To: libh8er
What doe's she have to do?

SHOW UP!!!!!!

49 posted on 02/09/2010 12:21:25 AM PST by BBell
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To: libh8er

Interesting except for a certain type of woman. This is one you think you have your bond for life and we both fart and let our hair down. Well that’s gross but over years where you feel comfortable and much $$$$$ is invested in that which seems to be what many others lack.
It was an illusion. For she was cultivating another arrangement. Same old stuff. I do this too much or that. Sell this house or buy me that. Never good enough because it was time for her to jump on another-which i hope is just what she needed.
It is difficult to put in one post but I’m getting old and those days where i was accused of “looking at someone”-as in extreme jealousy mode, were just a coverup.
That’s what I’m getting to, the duplicity.
There is another level where you never hate the woman and have so much invested in her and hers you don’t want her to die. It’s just eventually you realise that you were just a step and was played bigtime.
I talked to a guy recently that i’d seen before and he was working this one young lady real good at the bar.
The guy was honest with me at some point and said he hated all these bitches and was going to get whatever he could out of them. I believe I told him they are just going to be crazy but it doesn’t matter now.


50 posted on 02/09/2010 1:19:26 AM PST by noodler (!)
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