Flags in Hawaii

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[butterdezillion]

Flags in Hawaii Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 in The Blogs

Hawaii Flag A blogger under the name Butterdezillion (BZ from here on) has written an article titled Red Flags in Hawaii about how the actions of Hawaii Department of Health officials should raise red flags about President Obama’s birth. In an earlier article BZ tells the story of his frustration with phone calls and emails to the Hawaii Department of Health trying to get copies of the DoH regulations.

There are two ways of looking at this story. Certainly from BZ’s point of view, it is the story of one lone heroic figure’s quest for the truth against corrupt government bureaucrats. From the viewpoint of the Hawaii Department of Health, it is probably just the story of just one of a thousand nutty birthers pestering them and preventing them from doing their real jobs. BZ appears to be frustrated and offended, and perhaps for this reason engages in hyperbole when describing what happened while piling up real and imagined slights from the DoH, inflating uncooperativeness on the part of the Department of Health to criminal status.

The Red Flags article really doesn’t make much sense outside of the context of the earlier article, and so I suggest the interested reader read the earlier article first.

So let’s look through BZ’s numbered issues. The following include the statement of the complaint, but not the lengthy explanations, for which I refer readers back to the original article.

1. DOH Director Fukino illegally hid until Nov 2009 the DOH Administrative Rules showing that election officials could have received a copy of Obama’s original birth certificate without his permission. This is simply false, since the rules are publicly available on a state web site, easily located and accessible

[Pilsner]

A request is made for a birth certificate.

I'd like a copy of your birth certificate. Please Freepmail me, no please post for all the world to see your full name, date of birth, place of birth, and parent's names. Along with a PDF of a signed statement to the Registrar of Births in the Jurisdiction in which you were born, stating that anyone in the world may obtain a certified copy of your birth certificate.

Why would I need all of that? Because you can't just go and get a certified copy of someone else's birth certificate. Its not just against protocol, it is a crime to release a birth certificate to an unauthorized party.

Which is common knowledge. I mean really, red light means 'stop', green's light means 'go', common knowledge. If you are really trying to sell the idea that the fact that a State won't just release someone else's birth certificate is a sign that the State is part of a conspiracy, well either A. your mental faculties are so limited that the rest of us hope you live in a group home, with a locked door, or B. you are so so blinded by hatred that you have forsaken the use of reason.

My guess is B. In case I'm wrong, and its A, I've got a great new conspiracy for you. Go to the United States Gold Bullion Depository, in Fort Knox, Kentucky. Ask to go inside, and count the gold, and make sure it is all there, and no bullion is missing.

I predict that...

You won't be allowed in to count the bullion.

Why, it must be A CONSPIRACY. Obama/Bush/Clinton/Nixon/the Bildebergers must have stolen all the gold! Go for it 240B! Contact Orly Taitz! Save the Republic!

Meanwhile, for Freepers who don't live in a group home, we have an election coming up in just over 8 months. Run for political office. Run for precinct chair. Volunteer to help out with the Get Out The Vote, or Ballot Security Committee, or Sign Committee, of the local Republican Party. And if those committees don't exist, create them, and get volunteers to help you.

[240B]

When I decide to run for President CIC, I’ll do that.

But really, the request is nothing like you described. The request is to verify his birth by authorized personnel and not to “post it to the world”.

BTW, a copy of my BC was REQUIRED for both my passport and my TS.

[john mirse]

A request is made for a birth certificate.

I'd like a copy of your birth certificate. Please Freepmail me, no please post for all the world to see your full name, date of birth, place of birth, and parent's names. Along with a PDF of a signed statement to the Registrar of Births in the Jurisdiction in which you were born, stating that anyone in the world may obtain a certified copy of your birth certificate

******

If I were running for public office, say, for Head Dog Catcher, I would be more than happy to show you the voter my birth certificate.

I would feel that you as a voter have a right to know as much about me as possible before you cast your vote for the new Dog Catcher.

So, if I as a lowly office seeker of that most powerful position of dog catcher has no problem showing you my long form birth certificate, then why does Obama, the President of the United States, have problems showing us his 1961 Hawaii long form birth certificate or giving us the name of his birth doctor?

Is that too much to ask of the President of the United States? I don't think so.

[butterdezillion]

They are actually required to disclose to the public what they relied on to state that Obama was born in Hawaii. Doesn’t have to be certified but it has to be what they relied on. It’s the law.

But the real point of all this is that Hawaii refuses to follow its laws (a LOT of them) - and that should be of concern to us all.

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[Pilsner]

BTW, a copy of my BC was REQUIRED for both my passport and my TS

And BO released a copy of his birth certificate. One that was plenty good to obtain a passport. (I don't know what a 'TS' is.)

But it wasn't good enough for Birthers. No, they wanted something else. A 'long form' birth certificate, meaning a photo copy of the original, typewriter-on-printed-form birth certificate, with original (generally illegible) signature. Of course, when a person is adopted, it is common to create a new birth certificate, and seal the mythical 'long form', denying the whole world access to it. BO was adopted. Twice. So how suspicious is it that he didn't release a 'long form'? Not at all.

And what if he had, or does tomorrow, release the 'long form'? Are you, 240B, going to post Well the President really showed me. I'm sorry for my paranoid ravings to the effect he wasn't really President as he was born in Kenya/Canada/in orbit around Rigel 5 (I'm not certain of exactly what strain of Birtherism you espouse) I promise to confine my future activities to conventional political partisanship. My guess, not likely at all. In fact, no level of proof at all will ever satisfy you. Like Dan Rather, who has never had the falsity of his hit piece on George W demonstrated to his own satisfaction, you will never admit error.

[American Constitutionalist]

Chaff in the winds , pounding the mountains into dust...
Good job Mrs. Buttersworth.

[American Constitutionalist]

" Yeeehaaaw! You know you’ve got them on the ropes when they feel like they need to address your post, and then willfully ignore your links in the hopes that no one else will follow them! LOL! "
Their efforts are only bringing attention to it.

[votemout]

That’s something I would donate to if they’d just send me a copy of his BC

[240B]

Why you ugly bag of mostly water. It is clear you have confused me with someone else.

And since I have no idea what you are talking about, I’m projecting to you a mental image of a bunny with a pancake on it’s head sitting on the moose that once bit my sister.

But please keep me posted. I have to go jump in the shower.

[machogirl]

He also could have invited the Dr.’s family to the Inauguration festivities.

I think that there is NO DADDY listed. The myth of Barack Obama II can’t be exposed now, not when Barry has made money off of it, and it helped to propel him to the WH.

Barry has no problem pimping other people out for “his self”.

[butterdezillion]

If the couple was married the husband was presumed to be the father.

If the birth announcements in the newspapers truly came from the birth record, then Barack Hussein Obama would be listed as the father on the certificate - just as he was listed in the birth announcement.

[machogirl]

another big IF (if they were actually married).

i still think that he is citizen, but not a Natural Born, because his dad (obama) was a brit.

[butterdezillion]

The DOH says they have a marriage certificate for them.

Take that for what it’s worth. lol.

[240B]

I think Pilsner doesn’t like me very much.

Why do you think that out of all the detailed arguments on this thread, I was the one who flipped him over the edge?

He was ‘yelling’ at me by name. I am flattered that he mentioned my handle by name twice in his posts. I’ve never had that happen before. Pretty cool. I’m sure JR noticed it.

I can only guess that instead of arguing specific details, I was arguing broader, more simple concepts.

Clearly, something I said tweeked him.

He didn’t even yell at you, and its your thread. I’m just a bystander.

Anyway, thanks for the thread. It was a blast. Very funny.

Happy Vday everyone.

[machogirl]

In Maui. Didn’t know senior was such a romantic.

[PA-RIVER]

My guess .... At some point the BC has a foreign country listed for citizenship. Indonesia, Kenya, or Great Britain.

If Indonesia or Kenya is listed, even with a birth in Hawaii, it becomes impossible to show it. This is why it will not be shown. Once shown, we have valid reason to see his College records, and it will show Indonesian or Kenyan. His passport records will show he did not have a US passport when he traveled to Pakistan. I would put money on it that he traveled with an Indonesian passport as an adult.

The BC is the Rosetta stone. The line in the sand. It blows a hole in his qualifications that only grows bigger with each subsequent question it raises.

At some point, someone may get the goods and blackmail him. I'm convinced he will be a one term president because this is not going away. Its getting bigger. And this is why he doesn't care if all Democrats lose in the midterm. He's a one term anyway.

When people are denied the truth, they get pissed off. It's human nature. This is getting bigger. My guess is half of all Americans are now unsure who he is. That's awful.

[machogirl]

you’re right, we know almost nothing about the guy.