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Nurseries Struggle With Lagging Economy
Google News ^ | February 15, 2010 | Abby Haight

Posted on 02/15/2010 7:10:14 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin

PORTLAND, Ore. — Like his father, grandfather and great-grandfather, David Niklas feels the quickening of spring as the season ramps up at his wholesale nursery in a farming community south of Portland. Niklas and his workers busily package plants for shipment.

These days, his flowers and vegetable seedlings have fewer places to go, as the housing bubble burst and the state and national economies flatlined.

Just three years after reaching a record high of almost $1 billion in sales, Oregon's nursery industry has plummeted into an historic slump. Nurseries are laying off employees, cutting costs and foregoing new buildings and equipment.

A few, like Niklas' Clackamas Greenhouses, have gone bankrupt.

"The family has poured money into it as we tried to restructure it and make new markets," said Niklas, who had to file bankruptcy after losing almost half his sales when his primary retailer was bought out. "Commercial lenders aren't talking to me because I'm coming out of bankruptcy.

"They aren't even talking to GM, so why would they talk to a little nursery?"

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Food; Gardening
KEYWORDS: bankruptcy; bhoeconomy
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1 posted on 02/15/2010 7:10:14 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin
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To: Red_Devil 232

Garden Ping-Worthy?


3 posted on 02/15/2010 7:11:19 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save the Earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.)
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Year before last our company (Garden Center) started tightening its belt. And I mean TIGHT. There has been a core staff of FOUR this winter running things, getting ready for Spring. It’s been tough and tiring, but we have jobs!

It’s bad enough that some have had the weather working against them; many southern nurseries went belly-up due to drought, but this man-made DISASTER of an economy is going to hurt many, many others.

Learn to grow your own food. Even SOME of it. That skill is going to come in handy in the near future. :)


4 posted on 02/15/2010 7:14:28 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save the Earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Do you ship to other states?


5 posted on 02/15/2010 7:24:25 AM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Freedom's Precious Metals: Gold, Silver and Lead))
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To: Neoliberalnot

Yep. Shameless Plug:

http://www.jungseed.com


6 posted on 02/15/2010 7:25:18 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save the Earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

With the upswing in gardening one does not think about this. But I know while I would like to plant a couple fruit trees, they are pricey and I am sticking with vegetables and a grape vine or two.


7 posted on 02/15/2010 7:29:15 AM PST by handmade
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Yes, it might be a shameless plug, but I have dealt with this nursery and it is one of the best IMHO. And I have no connections at all except as a customer.


8 posted on 02/15/2010 7:31:08 AM PST by handmade
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

With the upswing in gardening one does not think about this. But I know while I would like to plant a couple fruit trees, they are pricey and I am sticking with vegetables and a grape vine or two.


9 posted on 02/15/2010 7:32:17 AM PST by handmade
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To: handmade

I, too have purchased from them. The plants arrived in WAY better condition than most mail-order plants.

I mean WAY WAY better.


10 posted on 02/15/2010 7:32:57 AM PST by mrs. a (It's a short life but a merry one...)
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To: handmade; All

Thank you. We appreciate your business.

This season I am keeping very tight reins on inventory. I’m not going to have the huge selection I usually do, but I will have plenty of the top sellers.

Seed sales were up 30% last season; I’m predicting more of the same. Veggie plant sales were slightly higher than normal, and sales of annuals were steady. Perennials are down. Trees and shrubs went up, overall, last year.

Who knows what this season will bring? But we’ll be ready and we’ll be smart about it. ;)

I’m off to work! See you all tonight. :)


11 posted on 02/15/2010 7:35:01 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save the Earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; billhilly; Alkhin; ...
Pinging the FReeper Gardeners!

Since I started gardening I have only planted plants that produce something we can eat.

My wife did plant some Elephant Ear bulbs.

12 posted on 02/15/2010 8:06:08 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Thank you. We appreciate your business.

I did my part, as well.

13 posted on 02/15/2010 8:08:33 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

There ARE edible flowers...I’m just not planting any of them. :-)


14 posted on 02/15/2010 8:09:07 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: who knows what evil?

I understand the Elephant Ear bulbs are edible. ???


15 posted on 02/15/2010 8:12:11 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I do believe your sales will suffer when the coming glaciers cover your parking lot...


16 posted on 02/15/2010 8:16:14 AM PST by tubebender (Thanks to all the Patriots who support Free Republic financially...)
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To: handmade

DITTO!


17 posted on 02/15/2010 8:16:23 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Diana,

What is your best strawberry for growing in the mid-south (Virginia)? I have been trying growing some in past years, but have not been very successful.

18 posted on 02/15/2010 8:19:51 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

hmmm, I just finished building a modest green house (16x16) for my garden. I’ve got plenty of seeds maybe I should start a little local nursery for vegie gardeners? Wonder where I could get the little starter thingies (cheap). Right now I am used old foam coffee cups.


19 posted on 02/15/2010 8:20:05 AM PST by jpsb
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Nurseries that specialized in edibles — vegetables, fruit trees and berries — didn’t fall as far thanks to the interest in grow-your-own food. Nurseries that produce native and drought-tolerant plants for restoration work also have fared better.

Learn to adapt.

20 posted on 02/15/2010 8:20:20 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

ANYTHING is good on the grill... :-)


21 posted on 02/15/2010 8:20:58 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

They make beautiful blooms............


22 posted on 02/15/2010 8:23:03 AM PST by Red Badger (Education makes people easy to lead, difficult to drive; easy to govern, but impossible to enslave.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I saved a lot of heirloom tomato seeds from last year. I had about 50 up, but the wife put them in the rain and some drowned. I just replanted some this morning.

I have one row of shallots that are almost done. I will separate one or two bunches for planting later in the spring.

23 posted on 02/15/2010 8:24:11 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Hey zero, It is NOT Bush's fault anymore.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

doe anyone know if there is a freeper run business ping list or just a list of links to businesses? I think it would be a great idea, I would shop from freeper owned first.


24 posted on 02/15/2010 8:29:14 AM PST by joesjane (The strength of the pack is the wolf - Rudyard Kipling)
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To: jpsb
Wonder where I could get the little starter thingies (cheap).

Press Here

25 posted on 02/15/2010 8:29:29 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Red_Devil 232

Bought some of our seeds this past weekend, mainly for the Spring crop. Greens, radishes, spring onions and lettuce. Starting the seeds this week as we have opening day on March 20.


26 posted on 02/15/2010 8:30:11 AM PST by doodad
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To: Neoliberalnot
Do you ship to other states?

Only the ones where people have money and the economy is good. In others words, no.

27 posted on 02/15/2010 8:30:47 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: Red_Devil 232

Since I started gardening it seems that I plant things the deer eat before I can. :)

The daffodil shoots are just now starting to break thru the frozen soil. Spring is just around the corner...


28 posted on 02/15/2010 8:31:40 AM PST by happydogx2 (I'm turning over a new leaf, no more "benders" for me..)
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To: jpsb

http://tnfarmsupply.com/jiffy-pellet-paks-case-73075-p-89.html


29 posted on 02/15/2010 8:32:53 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

We’ve bought a lot of seeds. Lots of trees and small plants like strawberries that can be used to produce food. We’re doing the edible landscaping thing. Even if the economy was gangbusters I just can’t see the point in planting, watering, pruning and caring for something that won’t make food eventually. I’ve never cared for Bradford pear trees. Or monkey grass.

I am going to plant a few annuals and perennials this year though. Start my own from seed. Got some ‘Magnus’ echinaceas from T&M and some ‘Ruby Star’ from Jung’s. Those are $5-$10 each if you get them already started. Ditto lavender plants. Jung’s sent a nice ‘free with purchase’ packet of annual seeds too. I’m looking for a good spot to put those.

The nursery nearest my house has always sold edible things though. It’s where we got my blueberry plants and my Meyer lemon tree. She sells a lot of pepper, tomato and herb plants in the spring too. I hope she makes it.


30 posted on 02/15/2010 8:34:52 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

What are the benefits of box-planting? We have a garden but I want my husband to make a box/raised bed for things like lettuce and radishes.
He says what is the differance if we just put it in the ground? I need some info. I like the idea of not haveing rows and it is pretty. That doesn’t do it for him. :)


31 posted on 02/15/2010 8:41:33 AM PST by JRochelle (My predictions on 2/3/2010: It will be Thune/Rubio in '12.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Trying to get my list together for an order. Looking to add just a few veggies as I have plenty of seeds left over from last year. But I will be adding some nut trees, apples, plums and cherries.


32 posted on 02/15/2010 8:44:33 AM PST by MtnClimber (Be a Patriot, contribute to Free Republic today!)
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To: handmade

I have fruit trees going. You plant fruit trees for your children and for others not for yourself. I don’t have a veg garden going but can get an organic one going anytime I want.

Fruit trees take years so they must be planted now even if you cannot afford them

Plus they will make you real estate worth more


33 posted on 02/15/2010 8:50:42 AM PST by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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To: kcvl

thanks! Good price.


34 posted on 02/15/2010 8:51:08 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Red Badger; who knows what evil?
They have not bloomed for me.

The great thing is we found the bulbs along side of the road. My wife and I were out driving and my wife said look at all the potatoes in the road ahead. There were a bunch just squashed in the road and others along the side of the road. I told her those are some kind of bulbs. We picked up about ten or so. And she planted them to see what came up.

We were about a half mile from the location of Van Zyverden Inc., the bulb growers. A big box of a shipment must have fell off a truck.

Van Zyverden - Meridian, MS

35 posted on 02/15/2010 8:53:01 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

They take a loooong time to blossom. Unless you live in Florida or Texas, you may never see them blossom....


36 posted on 02/15/2010 8:59:32 AM PST by Red Badger (Education makes people easy to lead, difficult to drive; easy to govern, but impossible to enslave.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

They need to shift to fruit and food producing stock. Ornamentals will continue to decline, but the market for plantings able to feed the family will only increase - given that you have sound, reliable stock. Forget the multigraft ‘Wonder Fruit’ trees that produce every kind of popular apple and bananas, cherries and pomegranates besides. Just like seeds, fruiting stock is going to see greater pressure from good suppliers.

My $0.02.


37 posted on 02/15/2010 9:00:46 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I wish my wife had gotten me a plum tree yesterday on the Romantic Day of Obligation!


38 posted on 02/15/2010 9:02:36 AM PST by MtnClimber (Be a Patriot, contribute to Free Republic today!)
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To: JRochelle

One good thing about a raised bed like 4’x4’x12” is that you can do intensive gardening especially with lettuce and such. A higher percentage of the available growing space is used, no rows, there is less room for weeds to grow, and water can be used more efficiently.


39 posted on 02/15/2010 9:08:11 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: joesjane

Oh, I would LOVE that! Here is a shameless link from this FReeper: www.alohaislandcoffee.com


40 posted on 02/15/2010 9:11:44 AM PST by Happyinmygarden (Yes, actually, I have pretty much seen and heard it all before...)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
"Learn to grow your own food. Even SOME of it. That skill is going to come in handy in the near future. :)"

This is something that is getting repeated here quit a bit lately. Is there some kind of book like "Not starving, For Dummies" out there. Maybe someone should start a thread of resource material.

41 posted on 02/15/2010 9:13:19 AM PST by moehoward
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
About four years ago, a palm tree nursery got started not far away.....judging by the layout and size, it appears the people were targeting commercial developers, with all the new home developments going in.

The place looks like a ghost town....just like all the unfinished housing tracts.

42 posted on 02/15/2010 9:15:09 AM PST by ErnBatavia (It's not the Obama Administration....it's the "Obama Regime".)
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To: Red_Devil 232

The variety of elephant ears that I grew years ago had edible roots (bulbs). Also known as taro root, it is a staple in many areas of the world and is the main ingredient in poi. It is my understanding that the root is toxic unless you cook it first.


43 posted on 02/15/2010 9:23:46 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Fat snowmen last longer.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Good grief, with the number of people trying veggie gardening, you’d think that this wouldn’t be a problem.


44 posted on 02/15/2010 9:24:12 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

I think a lot of nurseries make most of their money off of flower sales. That is the part of their business that is suffering.


45 posted on 02/15/2010 9:29:06 AM PST by JRochelle (My predictions on 2/3/2010: It will be Thune/Rubio in '12.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

Not only that my nursery would have larger cabbages, broccoli, squash in one gallon pots to transplant. That’s how you entice the garden-phobic. Then they come back next year and buy starts and six-packs

A nursery must move from ornamental to edible these day


46 posted on 02/15/2010 9:32:01 AM PST by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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To: Happyinmygarden; joesjane; All
Let me help you out. I am sure many FReepers are not aware that Happyinmygarden owns a Coffee Plantation on the Big Island in Hawaii.

Aloha Island Coffee Company

47 posted on 02/15/2010 9:42:12 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: JRochelle

I could see that. We don’t have a lot of extra money for annuals, so most of the flowers I buy are perennials and I plan out carefully.

I’ll usually buy some zinnias, petunias, marigolds, or salvia to fill in, but beyond that, nothing. But that is not unusual for us.


48 posted on 02/15/2010 9:43:30 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Black Agnes
We’re doing the edible landscaping thing.

I'm doing that as well but started some years ago, before it was fashionable.

I have some nice currant bushes started and have ordered some blueberries for the back yard.

49 posted on 02/15/2010 9:46:26 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Ah! I was not aware that it was taro root.


50 posted on 02/15/2010 9:46:40 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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