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Now in the market for 40"-42" flat-panel HDTV.
Vanity | February 15, 2010 | RayChuang88

Posted on 02/15/2010 9:18:24 AM PST by RayChuang88

I am right now seriously in the market to get a new 40" to 42" flat-panel HDTV to replace my old 27" Mitsubishi CRT television set.

Right now, my primary choice is the new 40" Sony KDL-40EX500 (I had considered the 40" KDL-40VE5 but most places wanted US$200 more for the set). From what I've read online, most people like it, and the suggested retail price of US$899 is quite attractive, especially since the KDL-40EX500 has 120 Hz refresh rate.

I would like to hear suggestions on alternatives from LG, Samsung, Sharp and Toshiba that I should consider (I'm willing to pay between US$800 to US$1,049 street price). I might consider getting a Panasonic 1080p plasma but I do have concerns about the peak power usage of a 42" plasma panel, which can reach around 300 watts.


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KEYWORDS: hdtv; lcd; plasma
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1 posted on 02/15/2010 9:18:25 AM PST by RayChuang88
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To: RayChuang88

self ping to check back when people with these things weigh in.

I also have a 10-yo 30” tube and am thinking it is nearing the end of its life.


2 posted on 02/15/2010 9:20:30 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: RayChuang88

I bought a 42” Visio at Costco for $699. 1080p, 240 hz, 4 HDMI inputs, and it is an American company, and the last time I looked, was built in FREE China (Taiwan).

I got it two weeks ago and and been VERY happy with it.


3 posted on 02/15/2010 9:21:44 AM PST by Andyman (The truth shall make you FReep.)
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To: RayChuang88
Visio


4 posted on 02/15/2010 9:22:29 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: RayChuang88

Go to CNET.com and all of your questions will be answered.
>www.cnet.com<


5 posted on 02/15/2010 9:22:47 AM PST by G Larry (DNC is comprised of REGRESSIVES!)
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To: RayChuang88
I shopped for awhile and finally bought last Nov. Amazon has real deals on occasion. You may have to wait til your model is on sale. Costco has great prices, but may not have your brand. Good luck!
6 posted on 02/15/2010 9:22:50 AM PST by votemout
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To: RayChuang88

My 18 month 40” Samsung has been perfect to date. It also was one of the first 120HZ models and now Samsung has 240HZ models for better reproduction of fast action. HIGHLY recommended!


7 posted on 02/15/2010 9:23:13 AM PST by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: Andyman

I have a 1 year old 42” Vizio from Costco, very similar to your set but 120hz. Very happy so far.


8 posted on 02/15/2010 9:23:25 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: RayChuang88

42” Samsung, about 18 months old, very happy with it. Smaller Sony Bravia in bedroom, about 6 months old. It is okay but the remote is awkward (too many buttons too near the bottom), and it seems to take too long to “warm up” before you can give it any instructions, although it is probably just a few seconds.


9 posted on 02/15/2010 9:24:44 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: Andyman
I am actually considering VIZIO's upcoming M420NV LED-backlit 42" LCD but that model won't arrive until some time in the middle of March.
10 posted on 02/15/2010 9:25:09 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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We’re extremely happy with our 46-inch Samsung LCD. The picture is phenomenal. I like the swivel feature in the pedestal. We have a very well-lit living room in the daytime, and there’s very little glare. We purchased it at a base exchange in December for around $800.


11 posted on 02/15/2010 9:25:17 AM PST by BuckyKat
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To: RayChuang88

The item in post 3 looks good. We got the 240 mhz feature on a 52” Samsung and the number of HDMI plugs is a good start. Consumer Reoports has some recent articles on TVs, you may have to go to your library or subscribe to get their report online.


12 posted on 02/15/2010 9:25:17 AM PST by votemout
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We have two 42" Smasung plasmas and a 46 " Sony lcd.

All 3 are around 3 years old and we love them. I know a few years ago Sony had a problem and samsung actually made their screens for a bit.

I don't think you can go wrong with either brand.

13 posted on 02/15/2010 9:26:33 AM PST by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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http://www.nextag.com/Samsung-8000-Series-46-526104603/prices-html


14 posted on 02/15/2010 9:26:40 AM PST by bmwcyle (Free the Navy Seals)
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To: freedumb2003

I had a 32” Mistubishi tube that finally bit the dust in ‘09.


15 posted on 02/15/2010 9:28:05 AM PST by sarasota
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To: RayChuang88

Sharp.


16 posted on 02/15/2010 9:29:03 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: RayChuang88

I bought this tv a few months ago. Excellent tv with 120hz refresh rate. Here’s the specs.
Specifications:

Display Area: 42”
Display Type: LCD
Aspect Ratio: 16:9
Resolution: 1920 x 10
Screen Refresh Rate: 120Hz
Response Time: 2.7 ms
Signal Compatibility: 1080p
Compatibility: VESA (200 mm X 200 mm)
Condition: New
Audio Ports: 5
Speakers: 2
Inputs: RS-232
S-Video
PC
RGB
HDMI In
Remote Control In (IR)
HD Component
Outputs: Audio
Digital Audio Out
HDMI Ports: 4
Power Consumption: 231W
Height (inches): 27.1
Height with Stand (inches): 28.9
Width (inches): 40.4
Depth (inches): 4.4
Depth with Stand (inches): 11.6
Check out tigerdirect.com for some of the best prices out there.


17 posted on 02/15/2010 9:29:36 AM PST by Patrioticdale
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I second researching on CNET.
I bought a particular 52” Samsung model based on their reviews and am quite happy.


18 posted on 02/15/2010 9:30:09 AM PST by libertarian27 (Land of the FEE, home of the SHAMED)
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To: RayChuang88

Personally I find the performance of Sony of late a bit underwhelming and the price a bit higher.

As you are coming from the old technology, you might want to consider looking at Panasonic on both LCD and plasma they have very good value.

The 37” S1 is very good and the 42” plasma is superb. They have new energy savings too. Check out the AVS Forum for more on all of this.

Best,
Romanesq


19 posted on 02/15/2010 9:30:41 AM PST by romanesq (For George Soros so loved the world, he gave us Obama)
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To: Kakaze

How does the plazma and LCD compare?


20 posted on 02/15/2010 9:33:25 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Patrioticdale

That’s great except for two things: manufacturer and model number.


21 posted on 02/15/2010 9:33:43 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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I’d check the samsungs out, we just bit for a 46 inch led lcd backlit model a month ago for the Olympics.

prices have fallen since we bought it and will continue too.. if ya want to spend the extra dough that is.. LCDs work just fine too.. Wish we had room for a bigger one .. :-)


22 posted on 02/15/2010 9:34:00 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Chuck DeVore - CA Senator. Believe.)
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To: RayChuang88
I suggest you evaluate on-line via CNET and BestBuy.
Head to your local retailer and compare first hand ... then wait for a sale if possible.
Personally, I've had a Sony 42" LCD for 5 years w/o a problem. I considered replacing it just before Christmas and after my evaluation of what's available, I'd stick with Sony.
The Samsung LED is a close second.
23 posted on 02/15/2010 9:36:33 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Andyman

I just bought a 55 inch Visio. I like it, but be warned, it doesn’t look that good when driven from a composite or analog cable input. It looks great driven digitally from an HDTV cable or fios box, and the X-box looks incredible fed from the HDMI interface.


24 posted on 02/15/2010 9:38:30 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT ( Self-appointed Thread Monitor)
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To: RayChuang88
My buddy has his own home audio visual business. I was checking out his latest project, a 5000 sq foot home, worth about $1.5-$2.0 million. He installed a couple of tvs in the range you mentioned.

He used to do a lot of Samsungs, but started to get bad ones about 10% of the time. I asked what he prefers, he said Sonys and LGs. He really likes LGs...A lot!

Check out Abt appliance. They usually have great prices.

Abt.com

25 posted on 02/15/2010 9:42:09 AM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: oh8eleven

I install DirecTV. All of the sets are pretty good. IF you only receive a standard definition signal, you may not be all that impressed. The TV’s all perform well but one of the most important things we all have to understand is the connections are the single most important factor. If you have DirecTV or Dish Network, make sure the installer uses all new lines and new fittings. If installed properly, you will have the ability for the equipment to deliver the best picture to the televisions tuner.

Buy an inexpensive HDMI cable.....DO NOT waste your money on a big MONSTER cable......you couldnt tell the difference if you tried.

My personal favorite are the Vizio product line.


26 posted on 02/15/2010 9:43:31 AM PST by Michigan Bowhunter (Democrat socialist liberal scumbags.....how did we let this happen!)
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To: oh8eleven

I’m looking at the Best Buy website right and they mention the Toshiba REGZA 40XV645U 40” 120 Hz LCD for US$700. Anyone tried this model and know how good is the picture quality?


27 posted on 02/15/2010 9:44:44 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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If you decide only based on picture quality, go with the Panny plasmas. They cannot be beat.

But whatever you do, stay away from Toshiba.

If the Panny plasmas are out of the running, then consider this: I’ve been in the video business as a shooter and editor or many years, and my eyes are well trained for noticing tiny differences in the video image. To get an idea of the monitors most people choose between, I went to WalMart recently.

I examined each very carefully, realizing the ‘room’ lighting was lousy and worked against seeing the images as they would appear at home.

Of all the 1080p monitors lined up on the back wall, I chose the Sony Bravia 46” Class 1080p LCD HDTV, KDL-46S504. It’s not as good as the Panasonic plasmas, but it’s better than anything else WalMart sells. IMO.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Sony-46-KDL46S504/12460936

Note: WalMart sells a 50” Panasonic 720p plasma, but I was only looking for 1080p, so I ignored it. If that’s not a limiting factor for you, WM is selling it cheap right now:

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Panasonic-50-TC-P50C1/12565692


28 posted on 02/15/2010 9:47:02 AM PST by savedbygrace
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To: RayChuang88

I have a Samsung Plasma and a Vizio LED...the Vizio has the best picture, hands down.


29 posted on 02/15/2010 9:50:38 AM PST by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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Thanks for the suggestion but 46" is out of the question due to fitment issues in the family room.

I'm still leaning towards the Sony KDL-40EX500, unless someone can talk me into a better 40" to 42" LCD 120 Hz flat panel....

30 posted on 02/15/2010 9:50:54 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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For a plasma to run at peak you'd have to have it in torch mode with the contrast turned all the way up. That would burn my retinas off. I still like my plasma (4 years old) better than current LCDs. It probably costs a couple dollars a month more to run one although I can't tell any difference in my electric bill when I have it on all the time and when I don't. (I have it set in user mode with the contrast about 25% of maximum).

My advice would be:
Don''t go to showrooms to compare picture quality. That tells you very little.
Take professional reviews with a grain of salt.
Consumer reports is worthless.
Best web site for learning more and the best user reviews: AVSforum

31 posted on 02/15/2010 9:53:12 AM PST by Varda
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2005 Sharp 26in LCD HDTV, 2007 Philips 47in LCD HDTV, 2009 LCD 32in HDTV. All run 24/7 and no problems. You can download updates for your TV from the Philips website via USB flash. Once you go LCD you don’t go back. No more lines or tiny squares.


32 posted on 02/15/2010 9:54:01 AM PST by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: savedbygrace
I bought a 61 inch Rear project Samsung 5 years ago for 2300 bucks; still cookin at least 8 hours a day. Only 720, but I'm happy. I've replaced 2 bulbs, one color wheel, and 2 fans myself; easy to do, online details. I'm buying a mitsub diamond 82 inch this summer, waiting on price drop before football starts. Should be around 2500 by then.

I really like the bigger tvs, especially for football, hockey, and nascar.

33 posted on 02/15/2010 9:57:13 AM PST by Eska
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To: RayChuang88

If your main concern is power usage get an LCD, if your top priority is picture quality then go with the plasma. No LCD will give you the PQ, black levels, color accuracy or viewing angle of a good plasma. Viewing angles on LCDs suck. The LCD manufacture’s specs will tell you can watch the LCD from 140-176 degrees off center, that is BS. One consideration though concerning the plasma, how bright is the room you are going to have the TV in? LCDs can be turned up to torch mode and overcome high ambient light, plasma do not do as well under those situations. Normal day time light is not a problem, but if the TV is in a room with massive large windows opposite it then you may want to go with the LCD.


34 posted on 02/15/2010 10:01:54 AM PST by redangus
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Buy an inexpensive HDMI cable.....DO NOT waste your money on a big MONSTER cable......you couldnt tell the difference if you tried.
Great advice. I bought an up-converting DVD player three years ago - on sale for $75 - and they tried to sell me a Monster HDMI cable for $89.
I got it at WalMart for about $20.
35 posted on 02/15/2010 10:02:05 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: redangus

For the record I have a 50 inch Pioneer Elite. They are no longer being made which is too bad because they have simply the best PQ period. My wife, who is not a big A/V person, actually went to pick it out at BB. She was first drawn to the Sony Bravia, but after seeing the Pioneer she actually called an said it was the only one she would buy, it was that much better. The Panny are good TVs. I have a 10 year old 47 inch RPTV in the basement. It has never had a problem. Good luck in your search.

Lastly whatever you buy have it professionally calibrated. It cost a little money, about $300-400, but it is worth every penny. Also the comment on the cables is dead on. The big expensive HDMI cables are not worth the extra cost. Just buy some good quality cable for a reasonable price and you will be very happy.


36 posted on 02/15/2010 10:10:40 AM PST by redangus
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The big issue with HDTV viewing satisfaction is *glare*. If the screen is reflective then you really need to put it in a room with no windows. If you have such a room, then plasma is a great option (I've never seen a plasma TV that was not highly reflective).

If you are putting it in a room that has windows and/or lighting that you can reposition, then LCD is the best technology (very few LCD's have any glare at all - with my Samsung LCD being one of the few exceptions unfortunately :( ).

Just my two cents.

BTW, a Sony PS3 is the perfect compliment for an HDTV. It can add blue-ray, Internet connectivity, and games with one purchase. However, one should also get the $15 remote control for it so that you're not using a game controller to play movies.

37 posted on 02/15/2010 10:11:46 AM PST by The Duke
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To: Michigan Bowhunter
Any opinions on Mitsubishi? They use a thinner bezel around the screen so I can get the most amount of screen into the space in my cabinet. At this point, I can get a 40” Mitsubishi into the spot where a 35” CRT would go. The model I'm looking at is 36.7 inches wide and the space is 37.5 inches wide so I have almost an inch of free space. Height is not a problem since somebody arbitrarily decided that we needed wider screens.
38 posted on 02/15/2010 10:11:51 AM PST by meyer (Obama's failure is America's Success)
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To: RayChuang88

Get at least 240 hz. I personally like Samsung.


39 posted on 02/15/2010 10:13:47 AM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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Anyone tried this model and know how good is the picture quality?
Remember, quality is subjective.

Toshiba REGZA 40XV645U 40” 120Hz LCD:
* poor RGB performance
* Obvious motion blur and significant artifacting
* Poor viewing angle and reflective display
40 posted on 02/15/2010 10:14:31 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: RayChuang88

Stay with Samsung, Sony, LG, or Vizio for LCD. Panasonic for plasma.


41 posted on 02/15/2010 10:16:06 AM PST by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bail out)
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To: redangus
The problem with my family room is that behind me is a big glass screen door. Even though it has a full height curtain to block out some ambient light, I do have some concerns that a 42" plasma may "wash out" during the day, especially in mid to late afternoon.

As such, I'm still leaning towards the Sony KDL-40EX500 as my first choice, though I'm going to Fry's at their special darkened screening rooms and see if I can find a better model.

42 posted on 02/15/2010 10:17:13 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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Okay, scratch the Toshiba. I’m going to use the Sony KDL-40EX500 as my “reference” and see what how the other models compare.


43 posted on 02/15/2010 10:18:21 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: redangus
If your main concern is power usage get an LCD
I believe LED TVs use the least power, but still cost a small fortune.
44 posted on 02/15/2010 10:20:11 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: RayChuang88

Being ignorant of the particulars, I can still say I love Panasonic products.


45 posted on 02/15/2010 10:23:37 AM PST by CalvaryJohn (What is keeping that damned asteroid?)
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To keep the cost down , this might be worth a look, or not.
and I have no connection with them.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4517143&Sku=T24-4232


46 posted on 02/15/2010 10:23:51 AM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: Varda
My advice would be: Don''t go to showrooms to compare picture quality. That tells you very little.
Surely, you jest.
47 posted on 02/15/2010 10:24:03 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Eska
I have a 62” Pioneer with all of the electronic stuff that goes with it. It is usually on 18 hours a day even when I am not watching it. The only trouble I have had with it is when the power goes off, the sound is up in the 190 range when I turn it back on. I just mute it until I get the sound back to normal. BTW, we bought it in 1996. I have 2 other newer and smaller ones but one is a Samsung and the other one is another brand which I can not remember right now. Have the huge Martin surround speakers too which are not even hooked up. I was in a motel recently and they had an LG and the picture was outstanding. First time I had seen one.
48 posted on 02/15/2010 10:26:57 AM PST by MamaB (If you see someone without a smile, give them yours.)
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To: redangus

Mine is the 62” Pioneer Elite which we got in 1996. We have been really happy with it.


49 posted on 02/15/2010 10:29:51 AM PST by MamaB (If you see someone without a smile, give them yours.)
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To: RayChuang88

Check out this month’s Consumer Reports if you can.


50 posted on 02/15/2010 10:33:04 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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