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Captive orca industry is an atrocity
timescolonist. ^ | February 26, 2010 | Diane McNally

Posted on 02/26/2010 3:58:53 PM PST by JoeProBono

Tillikum was sent to Florida from Victoria, has been driven crazy and can't take it anymore.

Of course there is a human tragedy in this, and I'm sorry for the family.

But Tillikum was stolen from his family, the L-25s from Iceland, at a young age, has grown into a strong, angry, bored, lonely adult, has no lasting friendships, doesn't speak the same language as anybody he's been forced to live with and is confined to a kiddie-pool sized tank in comparison to the whole of the Icelandic coast that is his family's home.

He is used, and I mean used, in the captive breeding program at Orlando. This does not involve temporary but possibly fun liaisons with female orcas. It involves handlers and electrodes and sedation and collection tubes. Is this a life you'd want, or wish on anyone?

And the babies produced -- is it OK to raise intelligent mammals in water-filled cages? Is it OK because "it's all they've known"? Would it be OK to raise a human baby in a cage if you made sure that was all he or she was going to know?

The entire captive orca industry is an atrocity and must be shut down.


TOPICS: Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: jpb; marinebiology; orca; seaworld
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1 posted on 02/26/2010 3:58:53 PM PST by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

How about Dolphins then, are they not just as intelligent? Chimps?


2 posted on 02/26/2010 4:01:01 PM PST by omega4179 (jdforsenate.com hunt some rinos 2010)
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To: JoeProBono

Sucks. As bad as circuses with elephants. These huge animals should not be confined. Sucks. The PR started spinning already blaming the dead woman’s ponytail and saying she failed to follow “protocol.” Such BS.


3 posted on 02/26/2010 4:01:19 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: omega4179

That Orca should be charged with manslaughter and given 10 years in the slammer.


4 posted on 02/26/2010 4:03:50 PM PST by dr_who
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To: JoeProBono

I believe this is cruel. I agree with the author’s characterization of their existence.


5 posted on 02/26/2010 4:07:27 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man
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To: omega4179

The Discovery Channel (?) has had a couple of excellent programs lately on Orcas. They are highly intelligent.


6 posted on 02/26/2010 4:07:40 PM PST by proudofthesouth (Zero should spend all his time playing golf & keep his Marxist, Muzzie, Homo hands off our country)
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To: JoeProBono

Free Tilli!


7 posted on 02/26/2010 4:09:22 PM PST by GeezerConservative
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To: JoeProBono

Orlando’s Sea World says they will resume the orca shows and that Tilikum will not be removed from the show.

They are asking for trouble. Tilikum is a troubled adolescent that has killed 3 times now.


8 posted on 02/26/2010 4:09:47 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: JoeProBono

Orlando’s Sea World says they will resume the orca shows and that Tilikum will not be removed from the show.

They are asking for trouble. Tilikum is a troubled adolescent that has killed 3 times now.

“Oh and Orcas teach one another.”


9 posted on 02/26/2010 4:10:23 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: JoeProBono

To equate whale babies with human babies is ...not logical.

I believe in treating animals correctly with care....but animals and humans are are NOT the same. Sheeeeeshhhh....


10 posted on 02/26/2010 4:10:30 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: dr_who

I was saying that if a Dog did this it would be put down. Why not a Whale? Intent? Nobody talks about the intent of the Pit Bull they just put it down. Whats the difference then? Money. Money is invested in capturing transporting and lifelong feeding and care of Tilikum. Somebody doesn’t want to lose their valuable source of Whale Sperm.


11 posted on 02/26/2010 4:11:35 PM PST by omega4179 (jdforsenate.com hunt some rinos 2010)
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To: omega4179

Dolphins have been known to kill themselves in captivity by swimming fast into the side of their tank. So yes, the same applies to them. However Orcas are much larger and the tanks are much more confining.

I have issue with this the same as I do with the circus elephants.


12 posted on 02/26/2010 4:11:43 PM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: mylife

He is not really part of the show if they where not allowed to swim with him.


13 posted on 02/26/2010 4:12:08 PM PST by omega4179 (jdforsenate.com hunt some rinos 2010)
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To: dr_who

Orca: The other, other, other, other white meat! ;-)>


14 posted on 02/26/2010 4:13:25 PM PST by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: omega4179

Orlando Sea World says they will not be kept from one another.
Not the other orcas or trainers. That is what I heard on ABC radio today.


15 posted on 02/26/2010 4:14:10 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: omega4179

Let the lawyers debate about it. Just leave the animal rights wackos out.


16 posted on 02/26/2010 4:14:15 PM PST by dr_who
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To: mylife

“Tilikum is a troubled adolescent” Adolescent and father of 13 progeny???
By the way the second death should have been a Suicide.


17 posted on 02/26/2010 4:15:34 PM PST by GOYAKLA (Flush Congress in 2010 & 2012)
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Suicide by cutesy whale?


18 posted on 02/26/2010 4:16:58 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: JoeProBono

The animal is too big for captivity ....and it’s predatory. Animals like these kill for a living. I understand wanting to help them and such...but if it’s for entertainment solely...forget it../liberal rant.


19 posted on 02/26/2010 4:17:10 PM PST by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: JoeProBono
Captive orca industry is an atrocity

The author is right.

Kill 'em and make into OrcaBurgers.

20 posted on 02/26/2010 4:17:48 PM PST by Lazamataz (Seriously. The only way Obama can possibly pull this out is to declare Martial Law before November.)
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