Posted on 03/13/2010 7:42:43 AM PST by Elderberry
I don’t know, in the UK the system is different. At what age do US citizen’s usually apply for a SSN?
Therein lay the problem.
Most of the info that's out there is entirely incorrect. Some of it is misunderstandings of facts, some of it is simply made up out of whole cloth.
But, “Birthers” keep repeating these things uncritically among themselves, which is why they tend to get made fun of.
In your post you make three unsupported statements and then seem to wonder why no one but a unhinged dentist is doing anything about them.
The truth is, no one but an unhinged dentist is trying to do anything about your allegations because your statements are unsupported.
Dont be ridiculous, but I have seen some, when asked, say they had one and would be willing to show it.
One person? Who someone could have payed to do that? Find me a few more and I might believe that.
Hawaii wont confirm or deny the Hawaii DOH produced the 2008 Obama COLB.
It has a seal from a different year to the year claimed for the production of the COLB.
The initial redaction of the COLB file number was highly suspicious, and the explanation for omitting it dubious at best.
Its not as if the file number was a Social Security number.... oh wait..
Have you seen a BC? I havent.
Have you seen his SS number? I havent.
Have you seen ANY school or college records? I havent.
How about passports? Have you seen any of those? Me neither.
Do you want me to continue?
I have not seen one document..nothing, nada, zilch.
And if you read what I said..even if only half of whats said on those sites is true..thats enough.
The man should have never been allowed to run for president, without producing those documents.
When he was born, they didnt issue SS numbers to infants. You could get one, if the parents applied. Some did, for banking purposes. Most didnt and the person would apply for one when they reached working age 14-16 or whenever they wanted to work.
Today, they give the parents the forms to fill out when the baby is born..so younger people will have a SS number from birth.
My children were born in the 60s and 70s. I didnt apply for SS numbers for the 3 of them until the oldest wanted to work..then I filled out the forms for all 3.
| The woman is a moron. No doubt about it. There's nothing more ironic than a flock of After-Birthers who
When you trust and support a LIAR like Obama, don't be surprised when you get sh!t upon by him while being hopelessly caught up in believing more of his LIES. |
Obama did write an article on nuclear non-proliferation for the Columbia College Student newspaper, “The Sundial.” And here’s a quote from one of his professors at Columbia: “People assume he’s a novice,” said Michael L. Baron, who taught Mr. Obama in a Columbia seminar on international politics and American policy around the time he wrote the Sundial article. “He’s been thinking about these issues for a long time. It’s not like one of his advisers said, ‘Why don’t you throw this out?’”
In a paper for Dr. Baron, Mr. Obama analyzed how a president might go about negotiating nuclear arms reductions with the Russians — exactly what he is seeking to do this week.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/05/world/05nuclear.html
http://documents.nytimes.com/obama-s-1983-college-magazine-article#p=1
Almost as amusing as all you Birthers singing the praises of an idiot like Taitz?
Nowadays it's generally done when the child is born since you have to provide SSN for every child you claim on your taxes. Back in the day I don't think you needed a SSN until you first got a job.
That is just a "proposed order". Not a real order issued by the judge. Not yet anyway, and most likely not ever.
| Almost as amusing as all you Birthers singing the praises of an idiot like Taitz? But not nearly as laughable as a flock of Obama-supporting After-Birthers getting their panties in a wad, all the time saying this whole Eligibility thing is "dumb" "stupid" or "crazy," all the while trying to pretend this is ALL "much ado about nothing" ...
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There were signs of trouble long before Orly taitz got involved.
http://newsmax.com/KenTimmerman/brennan-passport-breach/2009/01/12/id/337482
As for the “Birther” label, its not possible to prove which country Obama was born in. I meen actually physically born in, not the “flexible” Hawaii DOH version of virtual birth by a parent signing a piece of paper weeks later.
It could well be Hawaii, but IMHO Obama may have an amended Long form, posssibly twice amended.
Once to show Lolo Soetoro as his adopted father and a name change to Barry Soetoro, and a second much later changing the his back to Barack Hussein Obama and his Fathers name back to Barack Obama Snr.
“no more Barry”
The reason to hide the longform BC in that scenario is to cover Obama from questions about Indonesian citizenship and follow up questions Obama’s using an Indonesian passport in 1981 to travel to Pakistan.
If Obama used a foreign passport to travel on when he was over 18 it shows he was consciously a dual-citizen at best, and if physically born in Kenya or Canada [and assuming BHO snr is the Father] *an illegal alien.*
The promotion of Brennan is a “tell” IMHO of serious problems with Obama’s Citizenship.
Did any of the other candidates produce the proof you demand? Would you be making the same demands of McCain and Palin?
Does it register with you that you've skipped right past your previous unsupported statements to unprecedented demands without missing a beat?
What if not half, but not even 1/10th of that stuff is true? 1/100th? If any of it is true, cite specifics. Don't just regurgitate tired of fallacies or invent entirely new standards of proof.
Argument that there needs to be legal structure for candidates for Federal offices to demonstrate their eligibility for those offices is highly sensible. Your time might better be spent working for this kind of legislation on a state level.
Mccain produced a Longform BC showing birth in Colon, which is an *exclave* of Pamamanian territory in the region of the US controlled P.C.Z.
Obama is the First president to have an alien as a Father, neglecting the founders, who have their own clause in article II of the US Constitution:-
“or citizens at the time of writing of this constitution.”
Mccain was questionable, and he was questioned, leading to resolution 511.
Frankly, I think any of the Judges in the eligibily cases could have asked Obama to produce a long form, simply by refering to their own oath to defend the constitution.
Until the Democratic party is smashed in November, I don’t see a judge taking a career risking move to go to discovery in one of the cases.
It was 1986 when SSN's of claimed dependents over 5 years of age to began be required on the 1040. That would have been when my daughters got theirs. The oldest one turned 12 in '86. The youngest turned 6. So they would not have had any jobs yet.
However Obama would likely have worked some in Hawaii, and thus would have needed a SSN, before he went to Occidental. But even then he would have had one issued in California (Some schools used the SSN as student ID number in those days, mine did in '68, and my military ID number is also my SSN, that started in '69, '72 or '74 depending on branch of service. Of course Obama never needed one for that.
No he did not. That was "produced" by someone suing him for being ineligible. But he did produce one for the Senate, and showed it to a few reporters. It showed he was born in the Coco Solo naval base hospital, just as his mother says he was. (She's still around you know), also as the local English langauge paper reported he was. That base was in the Canal Zone proper, not in Colon.
However poorly done, however, the pleading really does contain some substantial "meat." Despite that, my fear is that these poor tactical shenanigans (Hey, it's St. Paddy's Day) will result in her once again being thrown out of court.
That's bad. It will give Team Obama a plausible res judicata leg to stand on when they encounter real attorneys in this matter.
I thought this was the BC, is there another BC somewhere else?
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