Posted on 04/10/2010 7:56:38 AM PDT by myknowledge
A GIRL, 6, who was sent to her room for punishment is feared to be one of the youngest people to have ever committed suicide in the U.S.
Samantha Kuberskki was found at her home in Oregon after being sent to her room for arguing with her mother.
Her death was ruled as suicide by the coroner - sparking a bitter row with police who investigated her death and insist it was an accident.
Detectives who interviewed the family insist the girl did not know what she was doing at the time she was found.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailytelegraph.com.au ...
Sad prayers at the loss of one so innocent...
I’ll concede “relatively odd” since it’s not odd to those who use the Queens English! LOL
I agree, and trying to explain it to them could probably do as much harm as it does good. It could easily cause them to adopt an attitude of fear concerning death at that early age.
I would certainly hope that some well meaning classroom materials related to childhood suicide wasn’t in some way partially contributory to this.
My daughter just turned seven. She wouldn’t know how to hang herself if she wanted to. But she’s a crazy adventurous kid, and I could see something happening accidentally.
>> The parents will be consumed with shame from which they will never recover. So there are three victims here.
Yeah, a truth not often stated.
There must be more to this story than this.
I don’t care what the coroner said, a six year old girl does not think of suicide! It may have been an accident, but I doubt very much, unless this was a severely abused child, that she would think of taking her own life. Even then I would question that conclusion.
The parents will be consumed with shame from which they will never recover. So there are three victims here.
They won't if it is an accident from a series of events gone horribly wrong with a little girl who didn't even know what was going on ...
It would only be so.., if it was "officially ruled" that way, by the coroner, even though the parents see it as an accident, along with the police (after their investigation) and a psychiatrist, too.
They should get that coroner's ruling overturned and correct the situation so that kind of "story" won't be hanging over them. Just an "accident" is bad enough, but accidents do happen and are not the fault of some people involved in them, who get killed. This (by the "coroner") makes it out to be the direct fault of a little girl who supposedly "intentionally" killed herself. That's the crime here, it seems (that coroner not understanding the situation with little kids like that, as if they do things with "knowledge" in a situation like that).
It’s a polite/British was of conceding a point that hasn’t been 100% proven, and would be better off not being true in any case. For instance, a person might say:
“The country is being run by an immature, naive, narcissistic America-hating poseur who wasn’t even born in the US.”
To which a second person could rightly respond, “I fear you’re right.”
Most of the first statement is a given, though honest people can disagree about the final item. No matter if that part is true or not, however, the ‘I fear you’re right’ is the proper way of conceding the bulk of what was stated, while at the same time expressing concern, regret, and just the overall sentiment that this is a bad thing. Fwiw.
When one of granddaughters was about that age they found her bunny dead in his cage...her answer was ***he’s not dead he’s just lazy****
She is in college and we still sometimes chuckle when we talk about some of the things our children and grandchildren say.....
Your presumptuousness is breathtaking.
The first question I asked myself upon recovering from the shock of reading the report : How would I react to such an event in my family with any of my three children, now all successful independent healthy adults?
Grief?
Certainly.
Shame?
Guilt?
Not for a microsecond!
Perhaps we are confusing legal terminology for ordinary language.
Suicide has a root meaning "killing of self." Deliberate intent is not necessary, in the use of ordinary language.
Well, I find that Merriam-Webster's Dictionary is a good place to go to when someone has a question about what a word means ...
Merriam-Webster's Dictionary Definition of suicide ...
Main Entry: sui·cide Function: noun Etymology: Latin sui (genitive) of oneself + English -cide; akin to Old English & Old High German sīn his, Latin suus one's own, sed, se without, Sanskrit sva oneself, one's own Date: 1643 1 a : the act or an instance of taking one's own life voluntarily and intentionally especially by a person of years of discretion and of sound mind 1 b : ruin of one's own interests [political suicide] 1 c : apoptosis [cell suicide] 2 : one that commits or attempts suicide
I'm not sure what definition you're using, but I find that the Merriam-Webster's dictionary is quite adequate for me in pretty much everything, except for a few words that might not be in there, but that's not the case with the word "suicide".
Actually, The Daily Telegraph (a Sydney-based Australian paper) sourced the article from the Daily Mail (a UK-based paper).
Yeah, I’m eat up with the dumb-ass today.
I don’t think so.
The use of “feared” could be more of a nuance of where the writer is from. When I read an Israeli account that mentions someone being “lightly wounded” I do a double take. It’s not something I would say, but it is normal for them to say it that way.
Presumptuous? I think not. My brother took his own life and I had to watch my parents grapple with grief and guilt for years. Doesn’t matter if it is not deserved. It happens. Why don’t you stick to what you know about, which probably isn’t all that much,you pompous a**.
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