I heat my water by putting it in a big pot and burning an old tire under it. I hope that meets with their standards.
We are going to hell in a handbasket and this loonatic is worried about my water heater????
Tankless water heaters.
The only way to go.
save consumers money?
what a joke. like they could have made better appliances before but, oh, just didnt get a memo from the government.
what they mean is, you will pay a ton more for your water heater, and the “savings” wont offsett the higher initial cost.
get ready for low flush toilets II.
All this from the wonderful people who brought us the low flush toilet. Nuff said.
GE is the new Enron. bttt
AES and GE imitate Enron on coal and climate
By: Timothy P. Carney Examiner Columnist 05/26/09 6:19 PM EDT
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/AES-and-GE-imitate-Enron-on-coal-and-climate-46120417.html
A global power company that inherited some of Enrons coal-fired power plants in Africa has also followed the late energy giant in the effort to profit from climate change legislation.
Virginia-based AES Corp. has partnered with General Electric Co. in peddling greenhouse gas offsets while lobbying for policies to make those offsets valuable the same buy-low, lobby-hard, sell-high strategy tried by Enron. AES simultaneous expansion of coal-fired power in Asia, South America and Africa, however, highlights how environmental regulations can yield profit without necessarily yielding environmental gains.
Before it collapsed in late 2001, Enron was the leading corporate lobbyist for restrictions on greenhouse gas emissions. Former Chief Executive Officer Ken Lay called on both the Clinton and Bush White Houses to ratify the Kyoto Protocol on Climate Change, which one intracompany e-mail declared would be good for Enron stock. The company hoped to be the premier dealer in emissions credits that would be required after climate change legislation. Further, Enrons natural gas pipelines would see increased demand as coal and oil would be made more costly.
At the same time, Enron owned coal-fired power plants in the developing world and was building more. Third World power plants are not covered by Kyoto, and pinching the developed worlds use of coal would make it cheaper to operate the coal plants in Nigeria.
When Enron died, its assets were scattered. Two heirs taking up both Enrons power generation and its climate change entrepreneurship were General Electric and AES. GE got the windmills, and AES got floating coal-fired power plants off Nigerias shores.
AES is currently building a new coal-fired power plant in India with an accompanying coal mine. AES has also just opened a diesel-fired plant in southern Chile, adding to its four Chilean coal-fired plants. Last December, Vietnams government announced a joint venture with AES for a coal-fired power project there.
But at home, AESs joint ventures have a greener hue. AES and GE have formed a company called Greenhouse Gas Services. GHGS invests in technologies aimed at reducing the gases blamed for global warming. Some of these products save money through energy efficiency, but many of them have value only if Congress passes legislation restricting emissions such as the Waxman-Markey bill currently before the House.
GHGS this month registered as a lobbying organization, working on climate legislation and operating from AES Arlington offices. AES, meanwhile, recently hired a new lobbying firm, Lighthouse Consulting. Lighthouse and its lead lobbyist, Merribel Ayres, are the organizational firepower behind the U.S. Climate Action Partnership, the business coalition led by GE that has spearheaded the push for cap-and-trade climate legislation.
GHGS is particularly sensitive to how climate legislation accounts for offsets emissions credits granted for activities, such as tree-planting, that reduce greenhouse gas concentrations in the air.
How to account for offsets is a contentious issue. For instance, planting trees absorbs carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, but much of that CO2 will go back into the air when the tree rots or burns. Massive tree-planting to absorb CO2 could also create land-use problems.
Clearly, the final details on Waxman-Markey are crucial to GHGS. Importantly for environmentalists worried about manmade climate change, whats best for reducing greenhouse gas emissions isnt necessarily whats best for GE, AES or their joint venture.
Companies that lobby for and profit from environmental regulations often get a free pass from critics who otherwise rush to assail corporate profits. As Timothy Noah wrote in Slate seven years ago, the mere fact that Enron stood to benefit financially from the Kyoto Treaty, and therefore was pushing energetically for its passage, doesnt in itself constitute an argument against the Kyoto Treaty.
Its true that corporate profit and environmental gain arent necessarily at odds. But the details of how AES and GHGS plan to turn carbon constraints into profits show how the idealistic goals of the environmentalists can be perverted and undermined by businesses looking to turn green into greenbacks.
Waxman-Markey would drive down the price of the coal AES will burn in Enrons old Nigerian plants and in AES new Chilean and Vietnamese plants. Simultaneously, if crafted the right way the bill would drive up demand for the carbon offsets the company is selling here through its joint venture with GE.
Enron may be long gone, but in AES and GE, its spirit lives on.
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Obamas hidden bailout of General Electric ( Cap and trade taxes )
Washington Examiner ^ | March 3rd, 2009 | Timothy P Carney
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Obamas-hidden-bailout-of-General-Electric_03_04-40686707.html
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Waxman-Markey cap-and-trade bill stuffed full of unpleasant surprises
By: Examiner Editorial 05/22/09 4:39 AM EDT
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/Waxman-Markey-cap-and-trade-bill-stuffed-full-of-unpleasant-surprises-45836042.html
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Also see here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2258900/posts?page=10#10
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2258900/posts?page=13#13
Meanwhile, you buy the new higher priced appliances, the ‘poor people’s appliances’ is bought by the government ... it’s called REPARATIONS.
And all being done for a lie.
Aren’t you going to be shocked when you can’t sell your home with the old appliances. And wait until you see the tax paid on selling your home.
Meanwhile, low cost nuclear power is not being used ... Wierd isn’t it how we will be watching energy costs skyrocket, just like dumbo said he would.
This man is certifiaby nuts. He thinks that you should paint your roof white so it will reflect heat back and we can stop "global warming", which isn't happening. They have actually let all of the lunatics out of the asylum and given them regulatory power.
While Government Royalty wallows in excess at our expense, and excempt themselves from all this “environmental” b.s.
We have ourselves to blame when we let the schools endoctrinate generations with environmental religeon. And now, wa-la, no sacrifice to great if it’s for Mother Nature.
Case 1: This is true and consumers are so stupid that you have to force them to save money on a purchase.
Case 2: This is yet another lie from the Obama administration.
My money is on case 2.
Stupid people won't realize that the technology doesn't exist yet and may not in the future yet this edict will make it law.
I hate these people in the WH.
And we need to do that why, exactly? I mean, now that the man-made global warming agenda has been thoroughly debunked.
Oh, that's right. 95% of climate scientists still agree with the basic global warming scenario. At least that's what the Obama administration and the NYT say. I'll be more impressed when they show us the names and credentials. (Funny, they never do that).
The hot water runs out too fast now. Mess with my shower and I might be forced to raise a massive stink.
I just replaced my waterheater a few months ago so FUBO.
Every time the scumbags come up with stuff like this it reminds me to go gather some more firewood for next winter. I love the smell of wood smoke drifting through the sky and over the trees.
May save money energy wise, but what kind of price tag are we talking about to buy these things? Everything they do in Washington is costing citizens money one way or another.
Oh, really? Is there a provision for DOE shotguns tucked into the Healthcare Bill?
...carbon dioxide emissions...? They still pushing ahead with the global warming hoax?
ping