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Vanity- Best 357 mag load for CCW
Myself | 4/16/2010 | Myself

Posted on 04/16/2010 5:46:23 PM PDT by Victor

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To: Chode
stainless 66???

If you are asking if the first weapon I posted was a 66 which is basically the stainless version of the model 19 K frame , no , it was the slightly larger L frame 686 which is the stainless version of the 586 .

The weapon I am attempting to post here is the 66 . They look enough alike they could fool someone that owns them both except the 686 has the full length ejector rod shroud .

61 posted on 04/16/2010 11:12:32 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: Victor
Thanks. A 45 ACP is my next purchase, actually. I'm just wondering what to do with my 357..... What kind is it ? Make model barrel length . I too carry a 1911 type .45 ACP almost exclusively because I think it is the best set up for personal defense for me . I only carry my revolvers now days when I am on my way to shoot them . If I had to go back to carrying .357 , .45 colt , 44 mag . It wouldn't really bother me a bit . Good leather . The good news for you is that with the renewed interest in all guns , has come something of a resurgence of enthusiasm for wheel guns . My Smiths are worth about 25% more than a year and a half ago . Good luck . The Smith&Wessonforum.com has classifieds and info how to keep on the right side of the law , as is the goal of every Freeper .
62 posted on 04/16/2010 11:36:09 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: calex59

I only correct the new shooters and people giving advice to new shooters. Calibers are confusing enough without giving designations that can’t be found on newly manufactured boxes. Trying to teach new shooters, I try to keep it as simple as possible. I don’t go through the history of their guns. I also try to keep the designations as simple as possible. It’s tough to remember three hundred years of history when all a new shooter wants to do is hit a paper target at fifty feet.

As a teacher it’s a constant reminder that I can’t teach what I know. I have to teach what is needed. Help the guy find that box of ammunition as it’s printed on the box.


63 posted on 04/17/2010 4:59:06 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: Texas resident

The ladies weren’t aiming at the crotch of the target. They were mashing the trigger as hard as they can. Hand them a camera and they will do the same thing. I’m teaching a lady now and she and I are going to a NRA’s Women on Target class.

Her hits are finally getting higher but it’s been months of shooting. The solution was to have her try to hit clay birds on a dirt bank at 70 yards away. Besides that, she never listened to anyone or their advice. She constantly did it “her way”. Patience, patience.


64 posted on 04/17/2010 5:03:50 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: kbennkc
thx...
65 posted on 04/17/2010 6:10:12 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: bravotu
It’s just the way I was trained,don’t draw your weapon unless you intend to use it. I was in Federal Law Enforcement,the Border Patrol and the Military.
66 posted on 04/17/2010 6:13:24 AM PDT by Hotmetal (Lead,follow,or get the Hell out of the way.554th REDHORSE)
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To: Shooter 2.5

BS. I’ve been shooting since I was 10 years old, I am now 68. I was considered an expert by many, and am still considered so by my friends who are still alive. Criticizing people on nit picky things such as .45 auto VS .45 ACP is just plain stupid, period.


67 posted on 04/17/2010 6:39:49 AM PDT by calex59
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To: Shooter 2.5
"...As a teacher it’s a constant reminder that I can’t teach what I know. I have to teach what is needed......"

Thank you, Teacher. Yours and others' advice on this thread are a goldmine of information for myself and all others to share.

I appreciate you caring enough to jump in and instruct.

68 posted on 04/17/2010 7:55:59 AM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: MindBender26

Thank you, MindBender. This article is a wealth of information. I’m sure others on this thread also appreciate it as much as I do....


69 posted on 04/17/2010 7:57:08 AM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: kbennkc
"...What kind is it ? Make model barrel length....."

Mine is a Taurus .357 mag with a 4" barrel. I am an engineer by profession and training and the Taurus sure looks like a well made weapon to me; although I don't know much about gun manufacture. I understand that the Taurus that I have was made in Brazil from Beretta machine tools and design. Nice gun, very crisp.

Beautiful pic of the leather holster. Who makes it?

70 posted on 04/17/2010 8:04:11 AM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: calex59; Shooter 2.5
BS. I’ve been shooting since I was 10 years old, I am now 68. I was considered an expert by many, and am still considered so by my friends who are still alive. Criticizing people on nit picky things such as .45 auto VS .45 ACP is just plain stupid, period.

I agree; for clarity everyone knows what 45 ACP is.

For precision, the term 45 ACP is the best for communication in training.


71 posted on 04/17/2010 8:23:48 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Victor
Beginners should start with NRA Certified training

I would recommend training
from an NRA Certified Instructor in

Refuse to be a victim
NRA training for women
Basic pistol
Personal protection in the home
and the newly released
Personal protection outside the home

NRA Gun Safety Rules

Always keep the gun pointed in a safe direction

Always keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot

Always keep the gun unloaded until ready to use

NRA T/C CRSO

72 posted on 04/17/2010 8:34:22 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: MindBender26
Cor-Bon manufactures the only JHP on the market for this caliber. It is totally reliable in all East-Bloc pistols.

Hornady has a great 9x18 Mak in 95gr JHP/XTP

73 posted on 04/17/2010 8:47:20 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Victor
Beautiful pic of the leather holster. Who makes it?

I had to go look again to be sure if the picture was with a Bianchi or Safariland as I have had several and big as Dallas I forgot it was an old Smith&Wesson branded holster .
I think the Taurus is a pretty good gun myself . They look and feel quite a bit like a Smith . I definately would not get rid of that one even if you get a .45 ACP . The Taurus is not being chased by people who have just always wanted a Smith or think the name makes them shoot better , or the true collector . I am not putting any of those people down . all are good reason . My point is I bet what you would get in cash is far below the actually value as a user and you might be giving away a nice piece , without much help to getting ypou into a .45 or What ever .Ever considered a shoulder holster ? It is about the only way I feel adequately concealed with a revolver over 4” and I don’t care for barrels any shorter . I would carry that Taurus until I had shot and understood the features and benefits of every gun you are considering . Here is the real deal if you want to look at fine shoulder rigs . I avoid anything but leather myself . I don’t mind a little blue rubbed from honest carry and use , in fact it gives the guns character . But some of those cordura were pretty abrasive . By the way , the Taurus 4” .357 is maybe my choice even over my .45s if I could have only one gun . Very versatile IMHO .
“Inspector Callahan your holster is ready “.
http://www.lawmanleathergoods.com/index.html

74 posted on 04/17/2010 10:17:24 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: Parley Baer

I’ve started carrying my .357 with 125gr. Golden Sabers, the recoil seems noticeably lighter than the HydraShok rounds and less muzzle flash.

But, as long as you are putting holes in the goblins I say use what you are comfortable with.


75 posted on 04/17/2010 11:44:33 AM PDT by West Texas Chuck (US out of the UN - UN out of the US)
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To: Victor

I use .38 Special +P in my snub nose S&W wheel gun. .357 loads rattle your teeth at the gun range.


76 posted on 04/17/2010 11:48:28 AM PDT by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: calex59

Let me know how stupid it is when your student goes to Walmart and asks the kid behind the counter for ammunition that isn’t listed on the boxes.

Your goal is to teach the student and not brag how much you know.

Help the student understand and forget the ego.


77 posted on 04/17/2010 11:54:27 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: Victor

You’re quite welcome. I can give you rundown on every cartridge made in the last hundred years but that won’t help you when you go to Walmart or Academy. I’m trying to simplify things for you.

If you’re interested in learning to shoot a handgun, I highly recommend shoot in International Defensive Pistol Association matches. For Rifle, it’s NRA High Power matches.

I understand how confusing cartridges are and if you are still interested go to Half Price Books and pick up a copy of “Cartridges of the World”. You can get by with a used copy a couple of years old. You don’t have to know about the latest and greatest of this year that may not be here next year.


78 posted on 04/17/2010 12:02:44 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Not for the kid behind the counter at your local Walmart.


79 posted on 04/17/2010 12:08:58 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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