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Moonshine Finds New Craftsmen and Enthusiasts
The New York Times ^ | 04 May 2010 | ROBERT SIMONSON

Posted on 05/06/2010 5:51:52 AM PDT by Palter

In early April, Kris Comstock, a representative for the Buffalo Trace distillery in Kentucky, conducted a seminar on bourbon at Char No. 4, a bar in Cobble Hill, Brooklyn, that offers 150 kinds of American whiskey.

Among the bourbons he poured were Buffalo Trace, Eagle Rare and Blanton’s. But his students weren’t interested in those.

“The first thing that everyone wanted to taste was the white dog,” he said. “We make products that win amazing awards all around the world, and they want to taste the white dog.”

White dog, or white whiskey, is, basically, moonshine. It’s newborn whiskey, crystal-clear grain distillate, as yet unkissed by the barrel, the vessel that lends whiskey some or all of its color and much of its flavor. And white dog is currently having its day.

“Aging in wood has many beautiful effects on a spirit,” said Tad Carducci, half of the cocktail consulting duo known as the Tippling Brothers. “But it does tend to disguise whatever the base spirit is. When you strip that away, you’re getting a real sense of what wheat offers, or rye or corn.”

Unlike vodka, in which the source grain is often purposefully purified to a vanishing point, white dogs are pungently fragrant, with a chewy sweetness to them.

This spring, Buffalo Trace began a limited commercial release of its white dog, which until now was available only as a much-coveted souvenir from the distillery’s gift shop. The bottles took their place on store shelves next to a growing line of colorless whiskeys.

Most are the work of young micro-distilleries like Death’s Door, in Wisconsin; Finger Lakes Distilling, in upstate New York; Tuthilltown, in the Hudson Valley; the Copper Fox Distillery, in northern Virginia; and House Spirits, in Portland, Ore.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Food; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: alcohol; distillery; moonshine; whiskey
Why Is Moonshine Against the Law?

'Because the liquor is worth more to the government than beer or wine. Uncle Sam takes an excise tax of $2.14 for each 750-milliliter bottle of 80-proof spirits, compared with 21 cents for a bottle of wine (of 14 percent alcohol or less) and 5 cents for a can of beer. No one knows exactly how much money changes hands in the moonshine trade, but it's certainly enough for the missing taxes to make a difference: In 2000, an ATF investigation busted one Virginia store that sold enough raw materials to moonshiners to make 1.4 million gallons of liquor, worth an estimated $19.6 million in lost government revenue. In 2005, almost $5 billion of federal excise taxes on alcohol came from legally produced spirits.'

1 posted on 05/06/2010 5:51:52 AM PDT by Palter
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To: Palter
RIP Popcorn Sutton (1946 - 2009)

2 posted on 05/06/2010 5:55:41 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Palter

Taste has nothing to do with it. These people want to get blind drunk that drink this.


3 posted on 05/06/2010 5:56:38 AM PDT by Man With A Gun
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To: Man With A Gun
We used to make Minnesota 13, a recipe leftover from prohibition, and it was HORRIBLE.

It was so horrible we made 100 gallons of it.

4 posted on 05/06/2010 6:03:18 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: Palter

When I was 16—a long time ago, we would get a gallon glass pickle jar, fill it with ice, half a quart of shine, and fill it with orange juice. Drank it from the jug, passed it around. Go to the Church dances and have a great time. Life was simpler then.


5 posted on 05/06/2010 6:21:46 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Man With A Gun

Where are you from?


6 posted on 05/06/2010 6:24:09 AM PDT by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: TSgt

You might enjoy this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj52DDdCwFI


7 posted on 05/06/2010 6:24:29 AM PDT by Cagey
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To: Palter

May I point out that the tax on distilled spirits was enacted in 1863 at the behest of one Abraham Lincoln? That tax is still with us. I offer it as a plain demonstration of the tyranny of one Abraham Lincoln!


8 posted on 05/06/2010 6:39:51 AM PDT by bagman
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To: Palter

Out of HS, I worked in a factory in Connecticut. A black guy nearing retirement from Mississippi spoke reverently of “scrap iron”. He told me Federal liquor had coloring and other additives and not to drink it. His relatives sent him shipments of the good stuff from down south.


9 posted on 05/06/2010 6:42:26 AM PDT by Brugmansian
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To: Palter

Any time I think of monnshine I always remember Andy Griffith’s character, Will Stockdale, being taken to the club to get him drunk in “No Time For Sergeants.”

The other is Granny and her moonshine from the “Beverly Hillbillies.” It was strong enough to power Jethro’s rocket that he planned to take him to the Moon.


10 posted on 05/06/2010 6:43:54 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (?)
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To: Palter

11 posted on 05/06/2010 6:55:43 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Palter
white dogs are pungently fragrant, with a chewy sweetness to them.

I once had a dog that was pungently fragrant. Liked to chew on my slippers, too. Izzat the same? :-)

I'm acquainted with a few people who know a thing or two about the moonshine trade. I'll ask them if their product is "pungently fragrant with a chewy sweetness" and see how loud they laugh. Will report back to FR on the matter.

12 posted on 05/06/2010 7:01:57 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Cagey

Love it!


13 posted on 05/06/2010 7:33:26 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Palter
I LOVES me some a that good ole Mountain Dew!

I still get excellent Kentucky shine from my brother and we love soaking strawberries or pears in the shine for couple days and then eat our daily serving of fruit on the back porch. Great times!
14 posted on 05/06/2010 8:02:07 AM PDT by marine86297 (I'll never forgive Clinton for Somalia, my blood is on his hands)
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To: bagman

I wasn’t aware of that fact ... thanks for posting!


15 posted on 05/06/2010 9:20:23 AM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (We'll remember in November!)
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To: ExpatGator

? What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?


16 posted on 05/06/2010 9:51:40 AM PDT by Man With A Gun
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To: bagman

Actually, the original tax on distilled spirits was enacted in 1791 at the behest of George Washington.

I therefore offer it as a plain demonstration of the tyranny of one George Washington!

It also led directly to the first armed rebellion against the authority of the United States government, which GW crushed by massive armed force. So it seems appropriate the same tax later helped fund the crushing of a later rebellion.


17 posted on 05/06/2010 10:01:41 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: marine86297

Believe it or not, this Kentucky girl just had her first taste of moonshine over the weekend. A neighbor of my daughter’s in Kansas City, brought some to a party. Raspberries soaked in moonshine. I haven’t missed much in my 58 years. Yuck!


18 posted on 05/06/2010 10:07:33 AM PDT by KYGrandma (The sun shines bright on my old Kentucky home......)
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To: Manic_Episode
We used to make Minnesota 13, a recipe leftover from prohibition, and it was HORRIBLE. It was so horrible we made 100 gallons of it.

I know that lore well.....wifey hails from Stearns County, and the stuff still gets talked about on occasion.

19 posted on 05/06/2010 10:10:57 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (It's not the Obama Administration....it's the "Obama Regime".)
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To: Man With A Gun

It has a direct effect on your knowledge of sipping versus swilling ‘shine.

My point is that most who partake of white liquor do so in moderation.

Location often provides for experience in some subjects.


20 posted on 05/06/2010 10:29:34 AM PDT by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: ExpatGator

Let me make sure I understand clearly what you’re saying before I attempt to answer you.

Do you really mean it when you say that the geographic area in which I live has anything to do with what I know?

Please, continue to enlighten me with your pseudo-intellectual musings.


21 posted on 05/06/2010 12:07:31 PM PDT by Man With A Gun
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To: Palter

Bump for later


22 posted on 05/06/2010 12:09:28 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Man With A Gun

Well, no sense in being insulting, so I’ll not return your attitude.

What I am saying is: I have enjoyed the company of white whiskey drinkers in my native South. For the most part, those I have known who drink ‘shine do so in moderation. However, if one has not been in the company of such folk then one would not know that. So, yes, where a person is from and who they’ve known can have an impact on their perceptions and even their knowledge.


23 posted on 05/06/2010 12:24:05 PM PDT by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: Constitution Day
Now, right now on the web you can go to the Lehman's website and order up charred white oak casks in various sizes. For a plain oak barrel I can think of many uses; but I can really only think of one use for a charred white oak cask.
24 posted on 05/06/2010 2:08:16 PM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: TSgt

Yep I knew Popcorn personaly used to live right down the road from him believe it or not Ole Hank came to his funeral. He made some good shine but you had to tell him you wanted drinking liquor not selling liquor you might know what I’m talking about.


25 posted on 05/06/2010 2:32:15 PM PDT by Lees Swrd ("Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe and preserve order in the world as well")
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To: ExpatGator

Ok, maybe it was a bit presumptive on my part that one would drink this stuff just to get blind drunk.

IMHO, it doesn’t have much flavor. But that’s just my opinion.

I’m from L.A.

That’s Lower Alabama... local reference to this part of Northwest Florida.


26 posted on 05/06/2010 3:36:07 PM PDT by Man With A Gun
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To: marine86297

I loves me some too. I like to fill a fresh watermelon with a quart, let it sit for a couple of days, then make some hunch punch with it. Gotta be careful, it will sneak up on ya quicker than a snake.


27 posted on 05/06/2010 3:41:06 PM PDT by Vigilantcitizen
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To: Palter
Great song about "shine"....Blue Flame Trance
28 posted on 05/06/2010 4:30:17 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Lees Swrd

Hank did attend the funeral. I’m very envious that you knew him, he was a living legend, a link to a forgotten past.

My only claim to fame is that my wife’s parents went to school with and grew up down the road from Loretta Lynn.


29 posted on 05/06/2010 5:04:07 PM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Man With A Gun

I’ve spent some time in the L.A. that you speak of...and lived for 5 years in Wakulla CO. Great part of the world.

As far as flavor goes, I’ll have a Lagavulin as my first choice.


30 posted on 05/06/2010 5:27:56 PM PDT by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: Sherman Logan

The whiskey tax imposed by the late G Washington was later repealed. Today’s tax on distilled spirits dates to the tyrannical reign of one Abraham Lincoln.


31 posted on 05/06/2010 9:09:43 PM PDT by bagman
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To: Man With A Gun
IMHO, it doesn’t have much flavor. But that’s just my opinion.

That hasn't seemed to have hurt vodka sales much.

32 posted on 05/07/2010 5:40:03 AM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: Oberon

Good point!


33 posted on 05/07/2010 7:21:59 PM PDT by Man With A Gun
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