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Demoralization, Government Schools, A Plan for RE-moralization of our Nation
May 13, 2010 | wintertime

Posted on 05/13/2010 11:57:27 AM PDT by wintertime

That Obama is now president and resides in the White House required a thoroughly "DEMORALIZED" culture and population of people! The former KBG spy, Yuri Besmenov **warned**us. We are now ripe for "DESTABILIZATION"!

If this marvelous experiment in American self-rule is to continue we MUST MUST MUST act NOW to reverse this "demoralization"!

Yet...Conservatives STUPIDLY have NO rational plan for RE-MORALIZING the nation!! NONE! NO PLAN!

Hint: That RE-MORALIZATION plan absolutely MUST MUST MUST include closing down every one of our government K-12 schools! We must get the nation's children into private **conservative** schools that thoroughly integrate the family's specific Judeo Christian values and our nation's founding principles into the woof and weave of every minute of the child's private school day!!!

Hint: EVERY government school in this nation teaches children to think godlessly. This is EVIL!!! And...That Obama is our president is no surprise! OBAMA WAS INEVITABLE!!!

Hint: EVERY government school in this nation teaches children ( simply by attending) that government has the power to take tax money from their neighbor to give them a service their parents want for tuition-free! Well..duh!..If the government can take money for schooling why not a thousand other socialist wants and needs?! It is EVIL to teach children to be socialists!

( YES! I am shouting, jumping up and down, and having a fit! Am I the only one who see the urgency?)

One possible solution:

Conservatives should organize education foundations. The foundations would award grants to individual conservative teachers who would open one-room schools in their homes. (This would be a tremendous cost savings since there would be no building expenses.) The foundation would test the students, certify the teacher, and approve the curriculum.

The foundation would start community wide sports programs ( as well as the cheerleading “rah rah” that goes with that) and run community-wide music, theater, dance, and art programs. This would break the monopoly that government now has on minor league ( farm team) sports and other community cultural programs.

The foundations would organize larger science labs for the older students.

Universities and colleges across the nation have endowments in the BILLIONS. Harvard alone has an endowment of 35 BILLION! If government had never interfered with the private education market, in the mid-1800s to early 1900s, perhaps by now we would have equally endowed K-12 education. It is possible that by now no child in the U.S. would ever need to spend a dime in K-12 tuition, but would be entirely funded through generous charitable endowments.

If conservatives can endow colleges and universities I believe they could be persuaded to endow K-12 education.

There will inevitably be Freepers who will insist that government schools can be reformed or that their child's government school isn't like the others. Hopefully, I can disabuse you of this false idea.

All socialist government schools are godless in their worldview and teach children to think godlessly. This can not be fixed!

All government schools teach children to be comfortable with taking their neighbor's tax money ( through threat of police action) simply by attending every day. This can NOT be fixed. It is intrinsic to socialism, and all government schools are the very essence of socialism!

Government schools were the wet dream of 19th century Utopian progressives. Utopian progressives have **always** directed teacher training and curriculum development.

What did Utopian progressive, socialist-funded, socialist-modeled, single payer, government schools do for earlier immigrants and early generations of Americans?

Answer: Socialist government schooling taught our great grandparents, grandparents, and parents, to be good little socialists who thought it was just great to have: the IRS, confiscation of vast swaths of land for federal parks without compensation, Woodrow Wilson, the federal reserve, unions, feminism, the "One World" League of Nations, Franklin D. Roosevelt's New Deal, The "One World" U.N., Johnson's Great Society, and the abolishment of the gold standard.( just to list a few outrages.)

And...Socialism **always** moves in the direction of atheism!! The very first day that government schools opened in the mid-1800s, children were already being fed a generic and lukewarm Protestantism that could be tolerated by the voting majority. ( We know what Christ thinks about being lukewarm!) We should not be surprised that by the 1920s, 1930s, 1940s, 1950s, and 1960s that children in our socialist government schools were subjected to a thoroughly godless curriculum with a sprinkle of prayer and scripture during homeroom!

My father, who died last year at the age of 96, attended GODLESS, socialist, government schools with a sprinkle of the Lord's Prayer and a scripture verse in the morning! Is it any wonder that he mistook Franklin D. Roosevelt for Moses?!

Decades of training children to think godlessly in our socialist government schools made OBAMA INEVITABLE!!!

Decades of godless, socialist, government schooling made communist "demoralization" of our nation INEVITABLE. We were ripe for Marxist picking!

Yuri Besmenov stated the following:

"Ideological subversion is the process which is legitimate and open. You can see it with your own eyes.... It has nothing to do with espionage. I know that intelligence gathering looks more romantic.... That's probably why your Hollywood producers are so crazy about James Bond types of films. But in reality the main emphasis of the KGB is NOT in the area of intelligence at all. According to my opinion, and the opinions of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money, and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages. The first one being "demoralization". It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of [their] enemy. In other words, Marxism-Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least three generation of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism; American patriotism....( Yuri Besmenov)


TOPICS: Education; Society
KEYWORDS: besmenov; education; moralabsolutes; pschoolderangement; sovietsubversion; subversion; yuri; yuribesmenov
Ok...So?..Conservatives? What's that PLAN to reverse the demoralization?

What's the plan to RE-moralize our nation?

1 posted on 05/13/2010 11:57:28 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: little jeremiah; metmom

Ping.

I thought you might be interested.


2 posted on 05/13/2010 11:58:53 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime
Oh...And Conservatives!....We will not have success against Islam either, unless we RE-moralize our nation.

To combat totalitarian Islam we need a nation of people that is rock solid in their Judeo Christian faith and our nation's founding principles.

3 posted on 05/13/2010 12:02:44 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; adopt4Christ; Aggie Mama; agrace; AliVeritas; ...
To combat totalitarian Islam we need a nation of people that is rock solid in their Judeo Christian faith and our nation's founding principles.

There's your answer.

And that will work against any thing, not just islam.

4 posted on 05/13/2010 12:05:33 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: wintertime

cannot seem to locate the source reference...


5 posted on 05/13/2010 12:10:43 PM PDT by gunnyg (We Are Surrounded By The Enemy Within--If Ya Can Grok That! ~ Our "Novembers" Are Behind Us...)
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To: wintertime

Step One: a national ‘housecleaning’ (read: civil war) of Biblical proportions. And yes, it’s as bad as it sounds.


6 posted on 05/13/2010 12:10:52 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: metmom

Yeppers!


7 posted on 05/13/2010 12:12:00 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (?)
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To: wintertime
Government schools are a failed experiment, and no one should experiment with their child. And, no - as great as your 6 year old is, it's unfair & unrealistic to ask him/her to stand up to a teacher who wants to politicize the classroom. Parents must flee the government schools for better alternatives - and fight to keep those alternatives for as long as possible.

The only natural consituency that conservatives have in this regard are churches (those that still preach The Way versus social gospels or a different Jesus). It's good to support those churches that run pre-K - 12, as well as Christian colleges/universities. Otherwise, most homeschooling networks are dominated by conservatives.

8 posted on 05/13/2010 12:14:19 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: gunnyg
Please do a Google on the words: Yuri Besmenov and demoralization.

There are various videos available where Yuri Besmenov discusses demoralization and destabilization. I recommend his entire interview. It is very discouraging because what he predicted in the early 1980s has indeed come to pass.

What I have posted is a transcript of the video and I don't have a link to transcript.

9 posted on 05/13/2010 12:14:52 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime

Good thread that addresses much of the crux of this nation’s problems. We must as a nation start reversing and backing away from the public school system and from the entitlement establishment and rebuilding a system of privately owned schooling that teaches our children properly. We conservatives must start to build solid plans for winning over the culture in this nation as well from left-wing ‘relative morality’ perverts that are targeting our children.

I am at work and can only throw out this off the top of my head but I appreciated seeing your thread. Conservatives must start making long range plans for taking our culture and our nation back!


10 posted on 05/13/2010 12:16:22 PM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: Noumenon

Well...We are on the brink of falling off the cliff. I hope we can turn things around.


11 posted on 05/13/2010 12:17:01 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime

Last time around, there were never more than 3% engaged in the ‘animated contest’. I think we can do better than that now.


12 posted on 05/13/2010 12:18:38 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: GaltTrader

I thought you might be interested.


13 posted on 05/13/2010 12:21:04 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime

Here’s a link that might help:

http://westernrifleshooters.blogspot.com/2009/09/more-bezmenov.html


14 posted on 05/13/2010 12:21:47 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction (I can see November from my house.)
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To: anniegetyourgun
The only natural consituency that conservatives have in this regard are churches (those that still preach The Way versus social gospels or a different Jesus).
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Those that are grounded solidly in the Gospel are most likely to have K-12 schools.

The others though?..Well?...I haven't much hope. Why?

Answer: There are too many government school employees( as well as those who directly and indirectly getting money from the schools) sitting in the pews. Few ministers will bite the hand that puts money in the collection plate.

In my county, the government school district is the **largest** single employer in the county. NO other business comes even close in number of employees or size of payroll. Even my dentist and his 5 employees are very dependent on the government school dental insurance that school employees bring into his office.

It is amazing how far, wide, and deeply, the government school cartel and price-fixed monopoly has distorted markets in our nation.

15 posted on 05/13/2010 12:27:32 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: gunnyg

Here you are:

http://westernrifleshooters.blogspot.com/2009/09/more-bezmenov.html


16 posted on 05/13/2010 12:29:51 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: Noumenon

Last time around, there were never more than 3% engaged in the ‘animated contest’. I think we can do better than that now.
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I am so sorry. What is “animated contest”?


17 posted on 05/13/2010 12:31:22 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime

ThankYa!
Appreciated.

Dick Gaines
**********


18 posted on 05/13/2010 12:34:10 PM PDT by gunnyg (We Are Surrounded By The Enemy Within--If Ya Can Grok That! ~ Our "Novembers" Are Behind Us...)
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To: wintertime
"Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say "what should be the reward of such sacrifices?"

"Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship and plough, and sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen! "
--Samuel Adams

19 posted on 05/13/2010 12:40:09 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Noumenon

I know this quote. I now understand.

I pray there is still time for a peaceful resolution.


20 posted on 05/13/2010 12:47:50 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime
You can't reverse this without 2 full generations of education.

That is why studying the founding documents is so important.

You are correct that they are now in the open and pushing past demoralization and into destabilization (controlled crisis.) 2008 crash...TARP, Obamacare, Cap & Trade...

Start reading the Constitution and PRIMARY sources of American history.
21 posted on 05/13/2010 12:54:57 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: wintertime
I pray there is still time for a peaceful resolution.

That prospect is nothing more than a rapidly receeding image in your rear view mirror. Think about who we're up against - and the pedigree of their ideas.

22 posted on 05/13/2010 12:55:58 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: wintertime; 185JHP; 230FMJ; Albion Wilde; Aleighanne; Alexander Rubin; An American In Dairyland; ...
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Vanity by our own wintertime.

23 posted on 05/13/2010 12:57:35 PM PDT by little jeremiah (http://lifewurx.com - Good herb formulas made by a friend)
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To: little jeremiah

A bit of refreshing...we all need from time to time...

Diamond Rio
Song...(Here in America)..”In God we still trust”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiYgpPB1kwU


24 posted on 05/13/2010 1:00:47 PM PDT by caww
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To: little jeremiah

Welcome back! :)


25 posted on 05/13/2010 2:22:24 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

I asked wintertime a week or so ago to put her comments together into a vanity about this and I’d ping it out.

(back to organizing my beads, doing herb packages and taking the cats for a walk!)

;-)


26 posted on 05/13/2010 2:36:27 PM PDT by little jeremiah (http://lifewurx.com - Good herb formulas made by a friend)
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To: little jeremiah

Taking the cats for a walk must be a challenge. :)


27 posted on 05/13/2010 2:43:27 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Post-lunch sneaking on and well-deserved BTTT for wintertime’s great article.

(They like going on walks, it’s just on our property, one of the cats is mostly blind, so she likes the security of walking with me. It’s the time of year when the pregnant does are vicious and will kick cats to death if they get a chance. The blind one did get stomped by a doe but didn’t die for some reason.)


28 posted on 05/13/2010 3:45:30 PM PDT by little jeremiah (http://lifewurx.com - Good herb formulas made by a friend)
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To: Noumenon

In reading your article, I found the change at Harvard interesting. On a recent trip to VA, I noticed something interesting on a building on the UVA campus. The building, built in the 1870’s (somewhere around then, I am guessing) had as part of cement embossment the names of many philosophers, including Darwin. It made me realize just how pervasive the movement was at that time. Evidentally, there was slow growth until the Scopes trial made a big splash in the 1920’s. By then, the USA had been dealt Wilson’s policies.


29 posted on 05/13/2010 3:53:08 PM PDT by del4hope (The HC Bill is The Declaration of Dependence)
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To: wintertime

Once again, your insightfulness rings true. In order to do this, we need a population that wants to be re-moralized.

It starts with rejecting the pop culture outside of the schools. The celebrity worship is nothing short of Baal worship. The celebrities are whom the nation’s children seek to be and imitate. The children do not seek to imitate the men and women written of in the Bible. Instead, they take the pop culture into the schools, and the anti-God schools reinforce it.


30 posted on 05/13/2010 4:03:52 PM PDT by del4hope (The HC Bill is The Declaration of Dependence)
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To: del4hope

Most folks don’t know that Robert Owen, wealthy Scottish mill owner, made first use fo the term ‘socialism’. All of his experiments in utopian socialist utopian communities flopped. One of the great ironies is that a communal religious group sold him their facilities intact - barns, equipment, producing fields and animals. The religious group moved on leaving the godless Owenites in charge. In less than a year, all was in disarray. For all of the predictable reasons.


31 posted on 05/13/2010 4:50:59 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: wintertime

‘Nother BTTT.


32 posted on 05/13/2010 5:41:39 PM PDT by little jeremiah (http://lifewurx.com - Good herb formulas made by a friend)
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To: wintertime

This is long, but this lady thinks very well and she attempts to answer your question:

 

Deconstructing Public Education

Diane Alden
July 26, 2002

Public education in America is a mess. No amount of money or fixing is going to turn it around. Humanists, cultural Marxists, the psychologically oriented social engineers and gurus are in charge. Those who seek to deconstruct America, its values, its institutions and its history, as well as its future as a sovereign state, are running the show called American public education.

The Intellectual 'Gods' of the American Educational Wasteland

In order to achieve a temporary teaching certificate back in the late '80s, I experienced what nearly every teacher in the U.S. today has to learn or absorb. Included in my studies were the theories and philosophies of education gurus like Jung, Carl Rogers, Abraham Maslow, Adler, William Glasser, John Dewey, Wundt, Pavlov, B.F. Skinner and Watson.

The problem, as I concluded, is that a little valuable information or objective studies were mixed in with junk, the political, the manipulative, psycho-sociological theory.

It is important for a teacher to know at what stage or age a child learns what. But it is even more important that a teacher have something valuable to teach. That is not what is happening in our public schools, high schools or the colleges of education these days.

Rather, feelings, techniques, self actualization and the ever-popular sensitivity training and "project learning" have replaced solid facts and information and workable teaching techniques. You know – the kind of knowledge that children learned in most schools before the radicalized '60s generation captured the culture and the schools.

These are the new totalitarians, who adopted psychological tools that have created the dumbed-down, tuned-out, easily manipulated, irrational people that most public schools turn out by the millions.

As I discovered in much of my course work, the gods of modern education and psychology didn't simply stop with objective studies of child development. They veered into an area where they had no business.

In the mindset of the psycho-social educational guru, the child became an object, human capital, silly putty if you will, for creating a political creature easily manipulated by those who think they know better.

The manipulators are the kind of folks who believe that their collectivist vision is what mankind needs in a collectivized, hive-like world. All this is based on Maslow and Roger's theories, called Third Force psychology. Third Force psychology gave us "stuff" like "values clarification" and the wonders of "mastery learning" and these days it has been recycled into "project learning."

Worse yet, however, is that the "stuff" foisted upon the American educational system has replaced the teaching of absolutes or fact-based learning. Manipulative tools like the Delphi Technique and Saul Alinsky's political tools are used by the radicalized progressives, the left and those who hate American society, Western cultural tradition and its values and underpinnings.

That hatred is called many things, but it is recognizable in gender politics and multicultural, diversity "training," as opposed to teaching individual self-control based on Judeo-Christian ideals of right and wrong, good and bad.

Before the mad '60s, civilized behavior, whether religious-based or not, was the standard if not always the norm. That is not the case today. Today's child has lost his moral moorings thanks to the success of the descendants of Hegel and Marx who have captured our institutions and used psychology to do it.

What replaced cultural standards and civilized norms of behavior and learning is the mushy brand of non-judgmental "tolerance" of behavior that goes against beliefs and traditions that have taken thousands of years to evolve. Fuggedabout learning much of anything that is teacher-directed instead of child-directed.

For at least a hundred years, the psycho-social educrats like John Dewey or B.F. Skinner or Maslow and Rogers looked at the child as a pliable being to be recreated as the new utopian man. This new creature would fit into the brave new world collectivist and God-free social order.

Using whatever theory or fad these experts are pushing, the psychologists, educrats, sociologists, political molders and transformers of society crossed the line.

The experts have successfully convinced vast numbers of people that there are no absolute truths or standards. Psycho-social theories or systems take the place of what we formerly knew as truth, beauty, right and wrong, knowledge and absorbing facts.

Just recently, a college professor informed me that his students were having trouble with concepts like latitude and longitude. Worse yet, they felt put upon when told they had to learn those concepts and apply them to map reading. No one had ever demanded they learn to retain much of anything to memory in any kind of structured fashion.

Mostly he was appalled that they argued with him about having to commit something to memory in order to use it to solve practical or hypothetical problems.

The professor probably knows his students are poorly educated because educrats are pushing something called "project learning." That is learning for the "real" world. As one of the booklets on project-based learning states: "Learners who can see the connection between a project-based task and the real world will be more motivated to understand and solve the problem at hand. ... Project-based Learning has the potential to increase a student's feeling of responsibility for, and control over, his or her own learning ... you and your students engage in a valuable discussion of learning goals, student interests, student and teacher expectations, personal strengths and weaknesses, and problem solving strategies."

Yeah, but do they know what latitude and longitude are? If any of them were adrift in the Pacific Ocean, on their own, would they be able to tell where they were when their "collaborators" were not within easy reach? Probably NOT.

At least 40 percent of American students can't find simple geographical points on a map, like the state or country in which they live. But by gosh, the educrats tell us that "Project-based Learning has the potential to increase a student's feeling of responsibility for, and control over, his or her own learning." God help them if they ever get lost or are asked to plot a course or read a map properly.

It would seem the only facts and truths being promoted or extolled in many schools today are irrational and unstructured theories and "new" socialized versions of math or science. Even taking to memory simple things like latitude and longitude are discouraged. These subjects and concepts carry with them the knowledge of absolutes.

There Are No Such Things as Absolutes

Many modern educrats, feminists and multiculturalists have also managed to turn physics and math into psycho-social political subjects. Feminists have complained that the study of physics is faulty because it is based on patriarchal thinking handed down in Western culture. In other words, what goes up may not come down. That is, unless it has been vetted by Gloria Steinem or Susan Sontag and approved by NOW.

Feminists and the diversity and multicultural proponents of the new and Not-improved education system want to dump Western or American culture, and even physics is taking a bum rap because it evolved out of the thinking of Western white men. How incredibly pathetic for feminists to be so shallow and blind that they have politicized science.

But that has happened across the board. From environmentalism to kindergarten science, it is all about agenda politics these days.

Fact-based solid information that might require memorization or knowledge of absolutes is discouraged unless it serves a reformation or socialization purpose. When science and math are deconstructed because they are considered tools used by white men to control races, classes and women, something is seriously wrong with our intellectual class.

William McDougall states in Academic Questions, Winter 1998-99, "Culture to them is an artificial, malleable construct that is of no intrinsic importance except for its utility in the struggle for liberation."

What is being promoted as educational material worthy of being taught by "facilitators," who used to be called teachers, is a kind of mushy mind pudding of feel-good unstructured information. It is junk information that does not help as a basis for rational thinking.

Project Learning is one technique in handing mind pudding to American children. It is very popular in many school systems nationwide.

Where did we get the educrats discouraging teaching of absolutes or using memorization as a teaching tool? How did mastery or project learning become the implement of choice by the "facilitators" in the classroom? Who are the prime movers in the valueless, fact-free new education system that has created a nation dumbed down to mediocrity?

One of the modern gurus is Dr. William Glasser. To Glasser and his cohorts absolutes and facts are bad. Glasser believes that learning core knowledge promotes individuality, which is bad. He prefers collaborative and cooperative project learning, team playing, whereas a better idea is to promote the collective man, which is a good thing.

To Glasser and others there are no right or wrong answers, but rather many alternatives and right answers. Glasser promotes the no-failure grading system as well as no rankings in superior or outstanding individual achievement. Just this year we witnessed the fruit of that in Massachusetts, where many schools did not have class rankings or valedictorian or salutorian at graduation events.

Thanks to men like Glasser, Maslow, Rogers, Skinner and others, learning in public schools has shifted away from what a student needs to know to what a student decides they want to know.

In his own words, Glasser believes that children are "more comfortable and less bored because it is accepted that they socialize while they work in these situations, while it is not in their regular classes. It is clear that students work and learn best in cooperative groups."

Education critic Lynn Studder has put the new system into perspective. She concludes that educrats like Glasser who promote the Third Force practices of Maslow and Rogers are not doing American children a favor:

"Without factual knowledge, a child has no basis upon which to initiate an informed analytical process resulting in a reasoned conclusion. They can only present an uninformed opinion; they are as computers – 'processors' of information devoid of analytical capability. This is the reality of 'critical thinking.' "

The individual does not need to know or understand facts or absolutes, because he can always depend on his peer in the educational hive to help him through a situation or problem. The individual is out, the hive mentality is in. They call it cooperative and collaborative learning, but some of us call it mob mentality, which we pay for and THEN call it public education. Even a mob is made up of individuals. In the American public school, more often than not, that mob is also a dumb mob.

By Their Fruits You Shall Know Them

William Kilpatrick is a professor in the School of Education at Boston College, where he teaches courses in moral education and adolescent psychology. His thoughts on the modern educrat are sad indeed:

"I believe that many educators in America don't have anything else to teach. They aren't well versed in subject matter. Typically, they've had many courses in education, but relatively few in history, math or science. Typically, American teachers love children, but they don't have a corresponding love of knowledge."

Furthermore, he states: "As a consequence they have very little to pass on. So instead of teaching history, literature, science or geography, the temptation is to sit around in circles with the children and share feelings."

As an indication of our educational freefall into chaos, 43 percent of fourth-graders, 31 percent of eighth-graders and 30 percent of 12th-graders read below "basic" levels, placing them in the illiterate category.

Between 1990 and 1996, statistics show, one-third of the students in grades 4 through 12 could not read and nearly two-thirds of them couldn't read very well.

Achievement levels in history and geography were even worse, and the decline began in 1963.

In today's modern schoolroom, about 41 percent of the school day is devoted to academics. The rest of it is about socialization of some sort.

Sandra Stotsky is a research associate at the Harvard Graduate School of Education. She wrote "Losing Our Language: How Multicultural Classroom Instruction Is Undermining our Children's Ability to Read, Write and Reason." Her analysis of the state of education concludes that history and civics books used in fifth-grade classes have deep-sixed mention of inventors, explorers, soldiers and all presidents except Abraham Lincoln. Many of the great achievements of Americans is excluded because those Americans were white men.

The Not So Sacred Individual

"Christianity discovers individuality in the sense that it stresses personal conversion," says Bernard McGinn, professor of historical theology at the University of Chicago Divinity School. "This is a crucial contribution to Western Civilization because it releases the individual from the absolute constraints of family and society."

In "Body Snatching," Shirley Correll wrote:

Individualism is one of the first areas to be assaulted and removed. As Outcome Based Education (OBE) is implemented, children are taught and graded as groups. This method is called cooperative learning, and the students are constantly pushed toward group think or collectivism. Individualism is out and collectivism is in. This anti-American concept is one of the most obnoxious of the socialistic leveling devices. It is the individualism of America, carried out in the competitive free enterprise system, which has offered the highest standard of living in the world. However, as one observes OBE, the first thing one will notice is that competition is to be eliminated, along with the rewards of academic excellence. We eliminate programs such as the selection of valedictorians and salutatorians.

And B.K. Eakman wrote, on page 111:

The major part of the groundwork was laid in 1879 at the University of Leipzig, Germany, where experimental laboratories headed by Wilhelm Wundt advanced the then-radical notion of man as a neurochemical machine, a product of genetics and upbringing and not accountable for his conduct, which was said to be caused entirely by forces beyond his control. Wundt's students actually credited him with having divorced the spiritual aspect from his studies. His pupils boasted that, following the establishment of the first psychology laboratory in 1869, psychology had become "a science without a soul."

Thanks to the gurus, the teachers and administrators who have fawned all over the gurus, plus the billions poured into implementing failed theories, we get test scores near the bottom of the international heap.

Our education experts seem to prefer it that way. If we stay at the Bottom, that will require more money to "fix" it. So yet more money is poured into the failed system. The Congress and various administrations have no clue, and the teachers unions are about getting grants or federal money to keep themselves in seminars and conferences and POWER.

The teachers unions have GOT to be the most self-interested bunch of clods that ever walked the face of the earth. Totally in tune with social engineers from hell, they forgot what teachers are supposed to be about.

When teachers and their unions swallow the dimwitted theories, political agenda and manipulative techniques of the psycho-social transformers of American society, as far as I am concerned they are guilty of child abuse AND sedition.

These theories, which came out of Third Force psychology, the human potential movement, and Glasser's "choice" and "reality" programs, are criminal in their failure to educate. But then, after all, the end game is to recreate and change society, not to educate people.

Admitting Failure

Carl Rogers' former partner, Dr. William Coulson, says that out of Third Force psychology came what is better known in colleges and universities and school systems throughout the U.S. as values clarification.

In values clarification there are no absolutes, right or wrong answers. In fact, perception is reality rather than a matter of standards, truths and values as passed on through generations. The name of which he states has been changed to critical thinking, problem solving, or decision making. This is also what Dr. William Glasser has been promoting in his panacea for education.

Toward the ends of their lives the creators of Third Force psychology finally began to understand how much damage these theories had done to society and to children. Too late, though, because these theories and their bastard stepchildren were now enshrined in the way education works in this country. They were adopted to politicize children, the family and the institutions of this nation. Without homeschooling and private schools, the children of this nation would be in worse shape than we already are.

Call it "projects learning, mastery learning, Goals 2000, whatever. It is still 35 years' worth of failure wrapped and rewrapped and recycled into new titles.

The old biblical saying that by your fruits you shall know them holds true in education as in anything else. The fruit of the Third Force and human potential movement, the product of "choice" in regard to what children want to learn or not learn, are failures – but we just throw more money at them and continue to recycle.

Personally, I think public education is beyond reform. Having taught a few years myself, I know that unless a teacher teaches in a system where they ignore the latest in teaching nostrums, the children are going down the education rat hole. As the federal government has become more involved, even at the local level, teachers no longer have the choice or freedom to choose common sense over educational mind sludge.

Many teachers know this and hate it but are so afraid of losing their jobs they just bite the bullet and go on with it.

Anyone who thinks it can be reformed is living in virtual reality. Education is beyond reform. Reform takes too long. The only alternative for parents is to yank their children by the millions from public schools and maybe, just maybe, the educrats and federal government might get the message.

Frankly, I would not count on it. Like all bureaucracies, as well as those who "own" the failed ideas and policies, these people will never learn from failure, they do what they do no matter what.

To admit failure would be to rock their world, and a lifetime of passing on garbage would have to be admitted. That would indeed destroy their self-esteem. But rather that than to keep on destroying America's children.

33 posted on 05/13/2010 8:33:34 PM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: wintertime; Black Agnes

schools are not the problem so much

it’s nonexistent parenting in some quarters largely defined by race or ethnicity


34 posted on 05/13/2010 9:30:30 PM PDT by wardaddy (never been particularly pious but I stand with Franklin Graham...bigtime...you betcha...ya'll)
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To: wardaddy
It is EVIL to send a child into a godless socialist school and teach him ( for his entire school day for 13 years) how to think godlessly.

It is EVIL to teach children to be comfortable with socialism. Simply by attending socialist government schools children learn that the government has the police power to force their neighbor to pay for a service that their parents want for tution-FREE! Well?...If the government can force a neighbor to pay for tuition-free school, why not a thousand other free wants and needs? ( Is a “duh” necessary?)

The evil above can not be fixed!

With generations of citizens adrift in the culture without a solid foundation in a Judeo-Christian faith and our nation's founding principles, the demoralization of which Yuri Besmenov warned was INEVITABLE!

35 posted on 05/13/2010 9:46:23 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime

ok...I’m evil...who knew?


36 posted on 05/13/2010 9:50:47 PM PDT by wardaddy (never been particularly pious but I stand with Franklin Graham...bigtime...you betcha...ya'll)
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To: wardaddy

Even with a good home atmosphere and parenting, kids spend the majority of their waking hours in school. Most teachesr are leftists. The cirricula are larded with leftist crap. Homosexual teachesr are not uncommon, nor are pro-homosexual propaganda in text books, library books, countselors, “Day of Silence” observances, special assembiles, and more. What to speak of kids at school with bad backgrounds who impart junk to kids.

Is used to be common cultural practice to protect ones’ children from bad influences, parents knew that children are easily swayed to do things like pick up bad habits, from other kids who were not raised well. Parents wouldn’t allow kids to visit children who would be a bad influence. So many kids at school are allowed to watch total crap - even many middle school kids have seen pornography, tried drugs and so on - and your children or any other children at school WILL hear about this, may be tempted to try, or at least to think it’s “cool” or tempting to think about. The other kids are one of the many reasons not to send your children to public school.

When I was 12 and 13 I made friends with an older girl - I think she was 15 or 16 - and she had a 17 or 18 year old boyfriend. My parents allowed me to pretty much do what I wanted or didn’t pay attention and I wound up in some pretty bad situations for a girl that young (I also looked about 16 at that time which didn’t help). I know from perosnal experience plus raising my children that bad influences can cause great havoc in childrens’ upbringing. That is not easily or sometimes ever undone. I know this with pain in my heart, from raising two children as a divorced single mother.

Children are very, very easily influenced and they should not be exposed to filth, immorality, lies and propaganda until the values are formed and their intellect can think things through with more mature discrimination.

Many conservative parents have sent their kids to public school thinking that they can un-influence that bad stuff at school and found out it’s not that easy.

I’ve home schooled kids a lot - my own and others - (Not for quite some years) and the text books themselves are larded - stuffed - rife - with total propaganda. Even in the 80s they were bad, what to speak of currently.

It’s tantamount to throwing children to the lions to send them to public schools.


37 posted on 05/13/2010 10:00:55 PM PDT by little jeremiah (http://lifewurx.com - Good herb formulas made by a friend)
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To: wardaddy

Believe me, I’m not trying to attack you at all. Basically my children turned their backs on much of what I raised them with mostly becuase of bad association at schools and other relatives who had leftist/immoral “values”. It was too much for me to stay home and teach them for their whole schooling becuase I had to work, having no support.

I wish with all my heart that I had somehow or other made more sacrifices, better choices - now I have two atheist children, one of whom is a total leftist, all because I ddin’t protect them more carefully from bad influences. It wasn’t just schools but they were very influential as well. I let my kids spend too much time with leftist relatives too. But the schools were definitely a huge part of what happened.

The problem is that you only have your children for a short time before they make up their minds about what path to take in life. My heart is still hurts and I regret that I didn’t try to protect them more from bad influences. And they’re in their mid-30s now.


38 posted on 05/13/2010 10:06:29 PM PDT by little jeremiah (http://lifewurx.com - Good herb formulas made by a friend)
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To: wardaddy

Is is evil to teach children to think godlessly or not?

Is is evil to teach children to be comfortable with socialism or not?

You decide. In this post modern world there are no absolutes. Right?(/s)


39 posted on 05/14/2010 5:20:16 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Noumenon
"Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say "what should be the reward of such sacrifices?"

"Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship and plough, and sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen! " --Samuel Adams

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Thank you for posting that, it reminds me of a passage that makes me stir from deep within every time I read it (or see Olivier or Branagh deliver it):

WESTMORELAND. O that we now had here
But one ten thousand of those men in England
That do no work to-day!

KING. What's he that wishes so?
My cousin Westmoreland? No, my fair cousin;
If we are mark'd to die, we are enow
To do our country loss; and if to live,
The fewer men, the greater share of honour.
God's will! I pray thee, wish not one man more.
By Jove, I am not covetous for gold,
Nor care I who doth feed upon my cost;
It yearns me not if men my garments wear;
Such outward things dwell not in my desires.
But if it be a sin to covet honour,
I am the most offending soul alive.
No, faith, my coz, wish not a man from England.
God's peace! I would not lose so great an honour
As one man more methinks would share from me
For the best hope I have. O, do not wish one more!
Rather proclaim it, Westmoreland, through my host,
That he which hath no stomach to this fight,
Let him depart; his passport shall be made,
And crowns for convoy put into his purse;
We would not die in that man's company
That fears his fellowship to die with us.

This day is call'd the feast of Crispian.
He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when this day is nam'd,
And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
He that shall live this day, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say 'To-morrow is Saint Crispian.'
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars,
And say 'These wounds I had on Crispian's day.'
Old men forget; yet all shall be forgot,
But he'll remember, with advantages,
What feats he did that day. Then shall our names,
Familiar in his mouth as household words-
Harry the King, Bedford and Exeter,
Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester-
Be in their flowing cups freshly rememb'red.
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remembered-
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;
And gentlemen in England now-a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.

-- the rousing speech delivered by King Henry V ("Harry") to his greatly outnumbered troops on the eve before the Battle of Agincourt (from Shakespeare's Henry V)

40 posted on 06/08/2010 3:34:35 PM PDT by zzeeman (Fighting to not be the amongst the last generation to enjoy Freedom & Liberty!)
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To: zzeeman

Branagh’s my man for this one. His was a more muscular delivery. One of the best speeches of all time, I think. It is hardly taught today; you have to look for it. Shakespeare’s work is out of fashion these days; the barely literate inmates of our public school system wouldn’t understand a word. more’s the pity, as Shakespeare offers such a rich tapestry of the human condition. All of his works inhabit my hard copy library. I will teach them one one day.


41 posted on 06/08/2010 4:11:18 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Noumenon
I agree, Branagh's was much better (but I won't miss an opportunity to watch a broadcast of Olivier's either).

I was actually introduced to it in a leadership conference many years ago in my original career. It was presented as the best leadership speech ever written.

I suspect that you are correct in that very little Shakespeare is taught in most schools today. I have about 20-25 paperbacks in my library from when I went to HS decades ago. By contrast, I think my son (who graduated from HS in 2005) read about 3. And it is indeed a pity.

42 posted on 06/09/2010 1:53:25 PM PDT by zzeeman (Fighting to not be the amongst the last generation to enjoy Freedom & Liberty!)
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