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Condemned pit bull returning to death row
SFGate ^

Posted on 05/15/2010 9:34:01 PM PDT by Chet 99

(05-14) 16:08 PDT RENO -- The condemned pit bull that was sprung from the Alameda animal shelter, allegedly by its owners, has been found in Reno and will be euthanized next week, authorities said Friday.

Max, a 3-year-old, 70-pound red nose pit bull, was located at a Reno motel Thursday night and was taken to a local shelter. An Alameda animal control officer will drive to Reno on Monday to retrieve Max, after which the dog will be destroyed, said Alameda police Sgt. Jill Ottaviato.

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An Alameda County Superior Court commissioner ordered Max destroyed Tuesday. The dog was labeled dangerous because he bit a veterinary technician in Oakland and a friend of Cochran and Perry at the couple's home at the Alameda Islander Motel.

Alameda animal-control officials were ready to euthanize Max shortly after Commissioner Thomas Rasch issued his ruling Tuesday. Rasch, however, agreed to allow Cochran and Perry to say their goodbyes at 11 a.m. Wednesday.

But after the hearing, police believe, Cochran bought a set of bolt cutters, setting into motion a plan he had allegedly hatched with Perry to break into the shelter on Fortmann Way and steal Max. The pit bull vanished from his locked kennel sometime between 4:30 a.m. and 7:30 a.m. Wednesday.

The couple's Ford F-150 pickup truck was seen on surveillance video taken outside the animal shelter the morning of the break-in, said Deputy District Attorney Mark McCannon of Alameda County.

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To: chae

The woman is the primary caregiver of the dog because her husband/partner is a truck driver and spends a lot of time on the road.

She said the dog is “temperamental at times” and became protective when someone pets him and touches another person at the same time.”

Apparantly she provided good care for the dog, taking it to the vet to have a bad tooth extracted. She said the dog was “grumpy” because he had had that done recently.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/05/13/BAAR1DDJGA.DTL#ixzz0o720A9Qy

Truck driver couple. Lived at a motel.


21 posted on 05/16/2010 9:59:24 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: gunsequalfreedom

‘In this case, feel sorry that the dog turned out to be evil,”

You are anthropomorphizing.

There is NO such thing as an “evil dog”.

“Evil” requires that a being be spiritually sentient enough to know “good” from “evil” and is also capable of making a moral choice.

You may as well put forth the judgment that the dog “sinned”.

Only humans are capable of “sin” and “evil” because only humans possess the ability to distinguish between the two and -choose- one or the other.

The dog was being a dog.


22 posted on 05/16/2010 10:52:58 AM PDT by Salamander (You don't know what's going on inside of me. You don't wanna know what's running through my mind.)
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To: Salamander; LongElegantLegs; wardaddy; All
Pop quiz: Which of these dogs ~is~ going to bite?

Number 1:

Or number 2:

Since everybody's got a 50/50 chance of simply guessing correctly, also include *why* you chose which dog.

23 posted on 05/16/2010 11:08:57 AM PDT by Salamander (You don't know what's going on inside of me. You don't wanna know what's running through my mind.)
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To: Salamander

Nah, its a pit bull. Its evil.


24 posted on 05/16/2010 11:19:32 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: Salamander

Interesting! I’m going to guess it’s the dog on top, because his ears are up. Ears up indicate confidence, right? A dog with his ears down is trying to make himself smaller.


25 posted on 05/16/2010 11:24:11 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs ( I have nothing better to do than sit around all night watching a lunatic not turn into a werewolf.)
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To: LongElegantLegs

Your score will sent via FReepmail....:)


26 posted on 05/16/2010 11:28:06 AM PDT by Salamander (You don't know what's going on inside of me. You don't wanna know what's running through my mind.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

My nephew was out playing in his front yard with his 2 1/2 year old daughter. Neighbors let the pitbull out their front door, who prompt runs over and attacks her. Luckily, he bit her on the leg and missed the main artery. She is doing okay after lengthy surgery. Don’t tell me it wasn’t the owners fault.


27 posted on 05/16/2010 11:29:54 AM PDT by KYGrandma (The sun shines bright on my old Kentucky home......)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

So much for those pointlessly cast pearls....


28 posted on 05/16/2010 11:37:35 AM PDT by Salamander (You don't know what's going on inside of me. You don't wanna know what's running through my mind.)
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To: Salamander

Hey, who are you calling a swine!?

I read your post. Don’t agree with it. Likely we are using different definitions of evil.


29 posted on 05/16/2010 11:46:58 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: KYGrandma
Don’t tell me it wasn’t the owners fault.

Owners fault and dogs nature. Pit bull no more suited for a neighborhood than a moutain lion, tiger or other wild, unpredicatable, hard to control dangerous animal.

Owner is at fault for owning it.

I hope you sued the heck out of the owner of the pit bull that did that your little girl.

30 posted on 05/16/2010 11:50:33 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: gunsequalfreedom

It was my nephew’s daughter. It happed yesterday, and yes, they have found an attorney.


31 posted on 05/16/2010 11:57:28 AM PDT by KYGrandma (The sun shines bright on my old Kentucky home......)
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To: KYGrandma

Very sorry to hear about this. Should have said that right away. I hope she will be alright.

And I hope her attorney has been instructed to make the settlement hurt!!!


32 posted on 05/16/2010 12:01:24 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: Salamander

The question should be, what dog is not only going to bit, but continue to bite with vice like grip, refusing to release even while being hit over the head with a shovel repeatedly. That of course is a pit bull, not a german sheppard.


33 posted on 05/16/2010 12:03:23 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: gunsequalfreedom

German Shepherds are quite capable of that and have a *much* higher bite strength than a pit bull, although not as high as that of a Dobermann.

Schutzhund dogs are trained to *not* let go even if you club, whip or shoot them.

Are they all “evil”...or has ~human intervention~ contributed in some way?


34 posted on 05/16/2010 12:50:32 PM PDT by Salamander (You don't know what's going on inside of me. You don't wanna know what's running through my mind.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

Considering we’re discussing wholesale “breed bans”, your proclaimed credo “Your rights end when you give up your ability to protect them.” is ironic, at best.

Guns kill far more people than pit bulls, every day.

You *are* aware that gun bans and breed bans have a strong commonality, aren’t you?

It’s CONTROL of the freedom to own what you have a right to.

Just as the majority of guns never kill anyone, neither do the majority of pit bulls.

Care to reconcile that ideological conundrum?

You either fight nanny-statism in *every* form or you become complicit in it.


35 posted on 05/16/2010 12:57:12 PM PDT by Salamander (You don't know what's going on inside of me. You don't wanna know what's running through my mind.)
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To: Salamander

I do not like my chances! Both are, in my thinking!


36 posted on 05/16/2010 1:03:43 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide

LOL!

Actually, you could be right with either choice but for very different reasons and very specific odds.

One is a “definite” and the other *could* be a “maybe...maybe not” situation.

How you *react* to either dog determines whether you get perforated...or not.

Thanks for at least honestly participating.

I do appreciate it...:)


37 posted on 05/16/2010 1:13:07 PM PDT by Salamander (You don't know what's going on inside of me. You don't wanna know what's running through my mind.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc5P8n3LRak

Third or fourth one, the dog actually attacks the handler who is trying to pull him off the criminal.


38 posted on 05/16/2010 1:27:44 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs ( I have nothing better to do than sit around all night watching a lunatic not turn into a werewolf.)
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To: Salamander
Considering we’re discussing wholesale “breed bans”, your proclaimed credo

No, I am talking only about pit bulls.

Guns kill far more people than pit bulls, every day.

That logic has been proved here many times to be fallacious. Guns do not jump out of their holster all on their own and go maul somebody - or even shoot them. It is not a valid analogy and it is silly to suggest it.

You *are* aware that gun bans and breed bans have a strong commonality, aren’t you??

In the context of this discussion, there is no commonality whatsoever.

And what is with the * * thingys you are inserting into your post??? Are you typing in texting symbols? Actually will appreciate an answer on this.

You are also reaching when you try to say the State should not have any say in the control of wild beast in residential neighborhoods. To use a correct analogy, do you advocate allowing people to keep a tiger in their home?

39 posted on 05/16/2010 5:49:51 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: Salamander
Are they all “evil”...or has ~human intervention~ contributed in some way?

Yes, all pit bulls are evil. Human intervention will bring it out. But even without human encouragement, the evil will come out of a pit bull all on its own. They are evil I tell you! Evil! Even the cute loving ones owned by great people that treat them properly.

40 posted on 05/16/2010 5:55:37 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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