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Optics for an AR
5/22/2010 | Self

Posted on 05/22/2010 8:26:48 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants

I am looking for a holographic sight for my flattop AR. I have looked at the Aimpoint and the EOTech sights and everyone says they are the cream of the crop. Problem is that $500 for a holo sight is a bit much. Can anyone suggest a rugged, reliable, good quality holo sight for a decent price?


TOPICS: Hobbies; Sports
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; ar15; banglist; guns; optics
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To: umgud
I have a PLR16 just like that and I'm looking for that optic. Where did you get it and what was the cost if I might ask? I just installed an awesome holster for this in my Jeep. The company custom made the thing and it only cost me $100 including shipping. SEAT CARRY
41 posted on 05/22/2010 11:00:28 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Joe Brower

The ACOG is also magnified, whereas the EOTech and Aimpoint aren’t (unless you get the $500 3x magnifier).

My TA31RCO-A4 is mounted on my 20 inch model AR-15. I have the EOTech 552 XR308 on my AR-10 rifle. Sprang for the EOTech 4x magnifier for that one as well. My M-4gery sports the Aimpoint M2, with the 3x available when I need it.

The ACOG is my favorite, but I need to get a Docter red dot to mount on top for closer in shots.

Pretty much can’t go wrong with any of them. Expensive? Yes. But I wouldn’t trust my life with any of the cheaper stuff.


42 posted on 05/22/2010 11:08:30 AM PDT by ex 98C MI Dude (Alea Iacta Est)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I have an Aimpoint on my AR and it certainly is a very good one. Truth be told I'd have preferred the ACOG but it was out of my price range.

That being said I've got a couple of the Bushnell's, too. One is on my wife's Mini-14 and the other is on a Mossberg shotgun.

Since they were 1/10th the price of the Aimpoint I pretty much consider them to be disposable. I've already got a back up unit for them.

L

43 posted on 05/22/2010 11:08:43 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I have an EOTech 511 on one of my rifles and don't really like it that much. It's OK, but here are the problems:

1. The reticle in the HUD is too big for accurate shooting outside of what it was designed for: Under 200 yards and CQB.

2. The reticle washes out easily in daylight unless you have the brightness cranked up to max ('11'). When it's at max, the reticle gets even bigger and fuzzier, reducing your visible range.

3. The EOTech is a battery eater no matter which model you get. If you're going to get one, get the one with CR123 batteries.

4. My older model has control buttons mounted on the rear. That's annoying. They relocated the buttons to the side, which is better.

5. My first EOTech burnt up. It was one of the models that had a short circuit problem and died in about 80 rounds fired. They replaced it no questions asked and were fast about it.

Good thing is that I didn't spend a HUGE amount of money on the EOTech, but if all you need to do is throw up a red dot in your field of view to aim with, a C-More sight can do just as well for about $100. The best single red dot is an Aimpoint. They run for thousands of hours off the battery and some guys don't even bother to turn them off with the switch.

My favorite and hands down best sight that I have is a Trijicon ACOG TA31F.

44 posted on 05/22/2010 11:13:26 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Joe Brower

Well, the ACOG is also 4X, so it makes more sense in open country for that reason also.


45 posted on 05/22/2010 11:14:52 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: ctdonath2

You push one button and the light’s on. As simple as flicking the safety, and quicker than chambering a round. ANd if it’s point blank and that much of a hurry, the EOTech makes a big “ghost ring sight” if you just need to blast somebody at under 50 yards.


46 posted on 05/22/2010 11:16:24 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Towed_Jumper

Trying lots of sights is a good reason to go to big gun shows and visit lots of shops. Any decent gun shop should be happy to let you pull them out of boxes and fire them up. If they won’t, go elsewhere.


47 posted on 05/22/2010 11:18:06 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: FreedomPoster

My M-4gery’s EOTech is not NVG compatible. But it does have a laser. If I can see the target I can shoot it. If I can’t....I can’t.


48 posted on 05/22/2010 11:19:17 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: MileHi

I have a MAGPUL BUIS behind my EOTEch, also cowitnessed on the front post. So I’m still used to the irons, in that my eye position with the red dot still puts the target on top of the front post sight. Kind of keeps the irons in the game, if your EOTech goes down and you have to flip up the BUIS. Everything is in the same position.


49 posted on 05/22/2010 11:21:44 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: ex 98C MI Dude

There are 100 buck magnifiers you can get. I can’t see paying 500 bucks for a magnifier that just magnifies, with no reticle etc to worry about.


50 posted on 05/22/2010 11:23:06 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee

The biggy is how does the sight hold true?

That Hakko Electropoint that I got for $75 at CDNN has been bounced around in the back of my truck foe 5 years and never lost its aim.

Sadly, they arent available anymore


51 posted on 05/22/2010 11:23:53 AM PDT by mylife (Opinions: $1 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: yarddog
"Still I think I would prefer the iron sights, that is if I had one now."

I may get blasted for this but spending big a large amount of money for a sight for an AR 15 is a waste. I own one and it has a very basic scope. I make very decent hits with it.

52 posted on 05/22/2010 11:24:40 AM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: The KG9 Kid
"1. The reticle in the HUD is too big for accurate shooting outside of what it was designed for: Under 200 yards and CQB."

Huh? The EOTech center dot covers 1MOA, compared to 3 in an Aimpoint. Without the EOTech's cirle around it, the Aimpoint needs a bigger dot to "find" it fast.

53 posted on 05/22/2010 11:25:30 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: mylife

My EOTec stays on. Plus, I have a BUIS behind it that’s slim and doesn’t interfere with the charging handle operation.

That big scope you have, does it get in the way of fast charging handle operation? And if it loses zero or goes down, then what? Take it off and reinstall the old carry handle sight?


54 posted on 05/22/2010 11:27:03 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee
I like the irons. I have the EOTech and a Surefire on it for low light/dark since I can't swing night vision.
55 posted on 05/22/2010 11:27:38 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: MileHi; Squantos

Look at lasers for low light. A friend who is an old SEAL buddy is still a contractor with recent combat time. He swears by green lasers. In all but total dark, in urban and “suburban” areas, if you can see a bad guy, you can hit him with a regular visible green laser out to 300 yards. He has access to NVGs and IR lasers but prefers eyes-open with a green laser for getting the hit. You press it on with a remote pressure switch just before shooting, then it’s back off. He swears this works best for him, and he could use any gear he wanted. And this is something any civilian can buy.


56 posted on 05/22/2010 11:31:24 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee

Mine never loses zero.

My AR is not a flat top. Its mounted on the carry handle, so peep sights are still there.

I like it very much.

Its 4x21. the FOV is very good.

If the batterys die(and they haven’t in 5 years) the retricle is still there.


57 posted on 05/22/2010 11:36:34 AM PDT by mylife (Opinions: $1 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: Travis McGee

Truth is I hardly ever light up the retricle


58 posted on 05/22/2010 11:38:53 AM PDT by mylife (Opinions: $1 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: Travis McGee

I would like to find one that fits my front handle. It has an integral light holder. The push button presses the momentary switch on the Surefire and it has a cross-bolt type lock out so you don’t light it by accident. The handle holds batteries and bulbs. A laser in that handle would be excellent.


59 posted on 05/22/2010 11:40:43 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Travis McGee

I just turned it on. Still lights up!


60 posted on 05/22/2010 11:41:00 AM PDT by mylife (Opinions: $1 Halfbaked: 50c)
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