Posted on 05/30/2010 9:40:27 PM PDT by libh8er
A few weeks ago the Palm Beach County Human Rights Council (PBHRC) celebrated a victory: LGBT discrimination will not be tolerated among what is one of the county’s largest employers. Namely the school board.
The article ran on page two in our May 3 issue. The following Monday Joe Jervis of JoeMyGod. com contacted SFGN contributing columnist Tony Adams. The email title read, “Tell Sebastian he made Free Republic.” I was told by Tony, “Being singled out by the Freepers is a great honor!”
I followed the link, but went back to my work. Not having heard of the site before I thought FreeRepublic.com was a liberal website. Later, when closing open websites, I decided to really check the site’s comments on my article.
I was…surprised.
“Nice. The gay lobby’s continuing attempts to force more fag teachers down the throats of our kids (if you’ll pardon the pun). Parents living in Palm Beach might want to consider homeschooling if they haven’t already.”
And this erudite response, “They won’t [be stopped] and if we don’t stop them what has been previously seen as horrors will become common place. What we are seeing is a devolution of culture and human behavior. People have become believers of what is nothing more than propaganda. Sexual liberalism is destroying this country. It is adding the fuel for tyranny in the name of diversity and perceived slights.”
I realized this was not some ultra liberal, group. I also quickly realized the website does not really stand for a free republic. They want a minority, conservative Christians, to control Washington. What’s “free” about that?
My writing, does ostensibly foster our “homosexual lobby,” this is something of which I am proud. The rest of the comments – rants really, that refer back to Sodom and Gomorrah as if it is historical, not what I consider a literary reference point—are pure gold.
“The end result is to teach our kids not to discriminate between good and evil. It is more than that....it is to have sex with our kids!! They want to use them as playthings. They want fresh meat! This is what happened in Sodom and Gomorrah.
They were abusing children too. A preacher told me this once. Is there any other preacher/ bible scholars here that can confirm this?”
They included a link to an article about sexual misconduct between teachers and students, mostly in reference to Palm Beach County and South Florida. Ironically, the article in question, which appears in the Palm Beach Post, only has one case of same-sex sexual misconduct. Also, one of the schools mentioned, and one of the lewdest segments of released email, comes from a teacher at a Christian school in South Florida.
The article came two days before the April 28 case won by PBCHRC, yet the Palm Beach Post article makes no reference to it. This either indicates the newspaper was unaware of the impending School Board meeting or extending LGBT equality protection is not something they feared.
Conservatives however put blinders on when it comes to knowledge not outlined in the Bible. Unsurprisingly, they infer the worst when they are unenlightened. National polls find that most Americans do not think gay and lesbian educators would harm children.
To use their words,
“I’m confused. If we say equality for everyone—Why do we now have to list each group?”
Did they read the article? The Supreme Court ruled in the 1950s that they must be mentioned specifically. Did they notice that in 1996 the Supreme Court once again ruled in favor of specific enumeration? “Technically such language would protect teachers who engage in teacher-student sexual relations. It’s just another way of expressing who they are.”
In no way does it say that. If school employees and teachers are interested in sex with students then obviously they are disbarred from a career in education.
Like all liberals, his opinion of his own intellect is inflated, and wildly at odds with the facts. He, no doubt, considers himself a “writer.” That’s why he couldn’t recognize a run-on sentence if the entire Strunk & White was tatooed on his forehead.
Yes I can make up my own mind. I've already done that. I've known many really terrific, talented, compassionate gay people in my life, not to mention the 70-odd year old gay couple who have long befriended my 87 year old mother, who lives alone 1,500 miles away from her sons. I am so grateful for their presence in her life.
So I've made up my mind that people can be gay and decent, and kind. And all that matters to me, from a political perspective, is that they stop voting for one-world socialism or worse.
And frankly, I'd rather be in a position to persuade them and their straight friends to our side of the political battle, however imperceptibly, than to alienate them by calling them names.
I had a liberal girlfriend whom I introduced to this site. I was truly embarrassed by the pointless gay-bashing here, and saddened because her justifiable outrage at it was a real barrier to getting her to be more open the many really informative and insightful things that this site offers. And the thing is, she was opposed to much of the PC gay political agenda anyway. But she was appalled by the meanness and, well, hatred. As I am.
And who does all the gay-bashing help? What is the God-damned point? What are we doing here? And how does it help in our mission? How does "God Hates Fags" work to advance the growth of our cause? How does it help us reach out to people who might otherwise be receptive to much of the conservative agenda -- especially on the economic and foreign policy fronts?
>>> But I am completely appalled by the outrageous and over-the-top gay bashing that I consistently see here. Opinions about gay marriage as public policy, and the gay political agenda, are one thing — but the name-calling and outright hostility against gay people is frankly, disgusting and outrageous
I agree totally. A month or so ago an article from one of the leading anti-Obama blogs was posted here but because the writer was gay, most of the comments were the vilest and crudest personal attacks on him. The content and value of the anti-Obama article was ignored.
The author learned of this and opened an account here to defend himself and discuss the points we have in common. Again after a series of personal attacks on him, the account was banned. Joyful posts applauded this, seemingly disappointed only they couldn’t have stoned him first.
There was a line in the first Airplane movie: “Chump don’t want no help, chump don’t get no help”. Although why some seem to think that being conservative requires them to be vile low-lifes and chumps is beyond me.
I went to an “authority figure” for guidance, because it’s HIS board—not mine or yours. Since Maceman is accusing other FReepers of engaging in “the worst kind of inhumane name-calling,” and I don’t agree, it’s kind of up to the board owner to decide what’s permitted, isn’t it? Since I’m a guest here, I try to follow board rules.
Nevertheless, you didn’t answer my question. In what way can we discuss homosexuality without offending you or Maceman? Apparently I’m not adult enough to figure it out for myself, so please elucidate!
That wasn't directed at you.
Maceman: “Or maybe instead we should just stone all the faggots to death like our brothers in the Muslim world do.”
This isn’t about stoning anyone. It’s about normalizing deviant behavior and trying to quiet the opposition—something that you’re trying to do right now.
True, so what's the point?
tlb: “Joyful posts applauded this, seemingly disappointed only they couldn’t have stoned him first.”
You engage in this sort of rhetoric and expect us to be civil? Yeah, because we’re a bunch of haters who want to stone people!?! We oppose the gay agenda. We don’t want homosexuality normalized in our schools and institutions. For doing that we’re haters who want to murder people by stoning them?
The gay community is one of the most sexually racist communities around.
You’re the one who wrote disgusting posts filled with vile expressions. What, you thought we wouldn’t notice? If you didn’t have 1998 sign-up date anyone could easily assume that you were a troll for posting such garbage.
Now you have offended me by taking God’s name in vain.
I suppose everyone is entitled to their opinion of gays, FR, or whatever else. Altough I question the wisdom of posting that garbage on a conservative website and being suprised by the result.
If I went and posted some Jefferson, Madison, Friedman, Locke, etc... on the Huffington Post site, I could just imagine the comments I’d get. I’d probably even get hate mail.
Maybe I should do it just for giggles and then write an article about what haters are on the left.
Well, for starters, in addition to dispensing with the already mentioned pejoratives and similar others, how about this: If someone is thinking about posting a comment lacking any substance at all other than an expression of contempt for gay people as human beings, perhaps that person might want to consider whether he's really adding anything substantive to the conversation at that moment.
And then, perhaps on further consideration, that person might decide that remaining silent would offer more value to FR than would indulging in pointless mean-spirited invective that serves merely to alienate potential visitors who might otherwise be receptive to many of the cogent and compelling ideas that FR offers every single day.
You've been around much longer than I have here at FR so I'll try to be as respectful as I can to a fellow FReeper. But your taking of our Lord's name in vain is far worse than term I've seen here applied to homosexuals. Others may, of course, disagree and this is just my opinion from a relative newcomer.
>I wonder if the author of the article would have
>enough guts to address Mr. Jennings’ background
>and his fitness for the position of “safe school czar”?
I doubt it.
BTW: looks like the Washington Times piece on Jennings that I posted in #13 vanished. Here again is the link to it.
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/28/at-the-presidents-pleasure/
I’m curious why some of my posts were deleted, too.
Just to be clear, I do NOT think homosexuals should be poorly treated in any way whatsoever, to include stoning them.
I DO support civil discourse. That’s includes not calling people morons, questioning their adulthood, etc., simply because I disagree with them.
I DO support following Free Republic posting rules at all times, to include not using profanity and not engaging in personal attacks (attacks directed at the poster personally and not the topic).
From my perspective, pro-gay FReepers are trying to quiet us, the opposition to normalizing sodomy. We are accused of hatred simply because we don’t want our children indoctrinated into perversity. We are supposed to be civil as they literally accuse us of wanting to MURDER people.
All Washington Times articles must be excerpted properly.
Making that assumption is not a personal attack on FReepers just because you're too cowardly to name them?
We are supposed to be civil as they literally accuse us of wanting to MURDER people.
No on accused you of that but posts of that nature are made by the dozens.
Macemen: “...perhaps that person might want to consider whether he’s really adding anything substantive to the conversation at that moment.”
A fair point. Thank you for the response. Yes, I agree that short quips containing pejoratives add nothing to the discussion and should be avoided.
One post of yours was deleted. The reason was inappropriate language.
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