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Compressor Heat Pump lobor cost?

Posted on 06/28/2010 3:48:02 PM PDT by navysealdad

I had a Carrier heat pump compressor replaced, it was was under warranty. The cost of the refrigerant replacement, vacuum system, ect and labor was $522, is that a reasonable price?


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1 posted on 06/28/2010 3:48:05 PM PDT by navysealdad
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To: navysealdad

labor cost


2 posted on 06/28/2010 3:48:49 PM PDT by navysealdad (http://drdavehouseoffun.com/)
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To: navysealdad

Yeah, reminded me of that old story Paul Harvey told every now and then.
Young couple complained that they were so poor, they couldn’t afford a crib for their baby girl.
She had to sleep in the box the VCR came in...


3 posted on 06/28/2010 3:49:25 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: navysealdad

Did the warranty only cover parts? How many hours was the labor for and what did they charge in materials....afraid to say so, but in this weather, you probably got off light.


4 posted on 06/28/2010 3:49:52 PM PDT by Gaffer ("Profiling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: Gaffer

Only covered compressor.


5 posted on 06/28/2010 3:51:56 PM PDT by navysealdad (http://drdavehouseoffun.com/)
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To: navysealdad

The refrigerant is very expensive. I’d say you got a fair price.


6 posted on 06/28/2010 3:54:37 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: navysealdad

Yes, that’s a very good price from my experience.


7 posted on 06/28/2010 3:56:10 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: navysealdad

these HVAC warranties are more feel-good than real

I had a furnace heat exchanger with a 10 yr warranty crack after 7 years.

Basically they charge just about in labor on a warranty job what they would charge for parts + labor on a non warranty.

In my case I told them to stuff it and put in a new furnace of a different brand


8 posted on 06/28/2010 3:56:10 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: navysealdad

Seems a bit high. The problem is the heat around most of the US is so high that they can charge more.


9 posted on 06/28/2010 3:56:13 PM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats = Party of I*lam)
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To: navysealdad

Heck, as long as you’re posting a vanity about this I’m going to piggyback on your thread. And no, I have no idea if that was a fair cost or not. It seems the labor is a biggie. That’s what I’m dreading tomorrow.

My side by side Whirlpool refrigerator died yesterday. Dang thing is only 6 years old. When I spoke with the repair guy today, he said, “It doesn’t sound good.”

Sorry to piggyback, I feel your pain as xClintoon would say. Just thought your thread would draw some tech folks. Thanks navysealdad!


10 posted on 06/28/2010 3:58:27 PM PDT by mplsconservative (I stand with Israel.)
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To: navysealdad

I feel your pain...

I just replaced the fan motor in my air conditioner unit for $425 on Friday. I’m just glad it wasn’t my heat pump...


11 posted on 06/28/2010 3:58:42 PM PDT by shotgun
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To: navysealdad
My Lobor was free, it was the shipment from Gondor that cost. ;)

Doncha hate your fingers sometimes?

/johnny

12 posted on 06/28/2010 4:00:14 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: navysealdad

Reasonable price?

Are you cool now and is the wife happy?

If so I’d say it’s reasonable.


13 posted on 06/28/2010 4:01:06 PM PDT by deport
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To: navysealdad
I'm betting a fair share of that cost was for environmental reasons....
14 posted on 06/28/2010 4:02:32 PM PDT by llevrok (These days, I am a stranger in the country I was born and raised.)
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To: navysealdad

Well, f22 is 5.50 a lb. That’s pretty cheap stuff (I assume that’s what it would use) Probably less that 5 lbs of it would do. Actually they suck the old stuff out and recycle it. The drier is probably 40 bucks...


15 posted on 06/28/2010 4:03:35 PM PDT by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: shotgun

Crazy. I replaced the fan unit for my a/c last year for $80, I did all of the work.


16 posted on 06/28/2010 4:07:29 PM PDT by aft_lizard (Barack Obama is Hugo Chavez's poodle.)
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To: navysealdad
Had a power surge knock out my refrig a few weeks ago. Looked up the problem on the net and told my wife it was probably the start cap. and that it was a $50 part.

Wife: No get someone out to fix it!

I called and Sears said they would fix it but there would be $60 service charge and a guy would be out in 4 days. We have a freezer and a small refrig so she said do it!

Sears guy arrives replaces the part, that I told my wife was the problem, and charges us $300+! He was here for about 20 min.

So we were charged for the part plus the $60 service call and about $200 labor.

17 posted on 06/28/2010 4:09:41 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: mplsconservative

See my post # 17


18 posted on 06/28/2010 4:11:19 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: navysealdad

You might try and email the support department of the manufacturer of the heat pump and ask them what they think a warranty replacement should cost. They at least ought to be able to tell you the standard number of hours and estimated ounces/pounds of freon-whatever needed to change the compressor....it may take awhile to get back to them but I’m sure they will answer....just be persistent....best advice I can give you...


19 posted on 06/28/2010 4:14:15 PM PDT by Gaffer ("Profiling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: babygene

He has a carrier unit which likely uses r410a which is 7.56 per pound.


20 posted on 06/28/2010 4:15:38 PM PDT by aft_lizard (Barack Obama is Hugo Chavez's poodle.)
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To: navysealdad

If you dont have to turn wrenches thats a fair price.


21 posted on 06/28/2010 4:18:11 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: Red_Devil 232

My wife is that way with her Tahoe.

One day her oil light came on, I told her I should get out and check the oil. She said, “no, let’s drive it to the dealer to see what’s wrong.”

I just shook my head.


22 posted on 06/28/2010 4:22:36 PM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: babygene

Ha!
F22!?!?!

Not after 12/31/2009!!!!


23 posted on 06/28/2010 4:24:45 PM PDT by G Larry (Democrats: expediting the Destruction of America, before they lose power...)
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To: navysealdad

That’s a parts limited warranty. What’s the time it took to do the job? Sounds like >$125/hr, which is unreasonable.


24 posted on 06/28/2010 4:25:01 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: navysealdad

Price sounds pretty high, especially if they reused the recovered refrigerant. If the refrigerant was contaminated by the failure of the compressor then you paid for all new refrigerant and the disposal of the old. Looks like R-22 sells for about $5.00/lb and R-410 for about $10.00/lb on ebay. I don’t know how much disposal costs.

.02


25 posted on 06/28/2010 4:30:56 PM PDT by theymakemesick (Full of hatred for those that disagree, liberal democrats are the most intolerant bigots on Earth)
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To: navysealdad; mplsconservative
Here is a forum for this kind of thing.

ApplianceGuru.com: The Samurai Appliance Repair Forums

Kind of a weird setup but lots of information. They talk about beer a lot, too.

26 posted on 06/28/2010 4:33:09 PM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Thanks Red,

That is interesting info as we did have a blip of a power outage on Saturday and noticed the problem Sunday morning. Hmmmmm....It’s definitely something I’ll bring up with the repairman. Thank you so much!


27 posted on 06/28/2010 4:35:25 PM PDT by mplsconservative (I stand with Israel.)
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To: navysealdad
In Nevada that is a good price. In Arkansas I do not know. Labor here is $85-120/hour.
28 posted on 06/28/2010 4:38:21 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Sometimes you have to go to dark places to get to the light....)
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To: raybbr

Beer and guy stuff. My husband will love it, after he’s done mowing the lawn with our neighbor’s mower.

We had a trifecta this weekend. His car got hail damage on the way home from work, the mower axle broke and the refrigerator died. Joy!

Think I’ll go get him a cold one...me too! LOL


29 posted on 06/28/2010 4:40:26 PM PDT by mplsconservative (I stand with Israel.)
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To: theymakemesick

Yeah, if the pump took a crap and let loose any particles into the system, then you have to purge the lines and clean them out (wouldn’t want anything getting stuck in the orifice or TXV valve), then fill the lines up with nitrogen when brazing the new pump in, then you have to pull a vacuum and let it sit for awhile to make sure there are no minute leaks. Then charge it and balance the system. $100 an hour probably, 3-4 hours plus misc. supplies. Doesn’t sound like the guy hosed at all.


30 posted on 06/28/2010 4:40:39 PM PDT by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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To: navysealdad
To replace an A/C compressor will run normally around $1800 dollars. To buy a new compressor will run $500 - 800 depending on the tonnage of the unit.
You have to reclaim the refrigerant; purge the system with nitrogen gas, braze in a new compressor and new filter; pressure test the system and triple evacuate the system; put in new refrigerant and finally adjust the superheat of the system. You may even require a new power relay or other electrical component which may have caused the compressor to fail in the first place. I think your getting a good deal.
31 posted on 06/28/2010 5:02:30 PM PDT by pterional
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You have to reclaim the refrigerant; purge the system with nitrogen gas, braze in a new compressor and new filter; pressure test the system and triple evacuate the system; put in new refrigerant and finally adjust the superheat of the system. You may even require a new power relay or other electrical component which may have caused the compressor to fail in the first place. I think your getting a good deal. “

You sir, get an A. Don’t forget, some compressors weigh in excess of 150 lbs. The unit cage can be as much as 5 ft. high. Save taking the whole think apart (additional labor), without a hoist or jack you have to pay at least two laborers to pull the old one out and drop in the new one. He definitely go a good deal! Certified Mechanical Contractor.


32 posted on 06/29/2010 4:01:33 AM PDT by poobear
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To: pterional

Or subcooling of the system.


33 posted on 06/29/2010 4:14:56 AM PDT by Sawdring
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To: babygene
Well, f22 is 5.50 a lb.

Thats wholesale. You think a guy is going to sell R-22 for $5.50 off of his truck? I would more likely say $19.00 a pound. A dryer will cost about $12.00 from the wholesaler, so perhaps $22.00 off the truck. On a compressor change out nobody reuses the old stuff.

34 posted on 06/29/2010 4:17:57 AM PDT by Sawdring
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To: aft_lizard

Unfortunately mine required some modification to the squirrel cage. The original motor was 5 inches in diameter and the new motor was 4 inches, so the mounting bracket needed to be modified. My system is about 25 yrs old and was a pain to get in to...


35 posted on 06/29/2010 6:50:15 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: poobear
You have to reclaim the refrigerant...

Not if there is a hole in the line going into the compressor. Which is exactly what will happen if my compressor goes.

36 posted on 06/29/2010 7:30:47 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: raybbr

;D!


37 posted on 06/29/2010 7:37:01 AM PDT by poobear
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To: navysealdad
You are not just paying for labor, you are also paying wages, advertising, transportation, insurance and overhead.
You got a good deal. Do you own a business?
38 posted on 06/29/2010 7:42:42 AM PDT by MaxMax (Conservatism isn't a party)
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