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More Landis Allegations Against Armstrong as Tour de France Begins
Huliq ^ | 7/3/10 | Michael Santo

Posted on 07/03/2010 2:56:15 PM PDT by LibWhacker

As the Tour de France begins, Floyd Landis, once a teammate of 7-time Tour de France winner Lance Armstrong, has issued new allegations against the cycling great. In fact, Landis called doping in cycling "systematic," in a Wall Street Journal report.

Floryd Landis was stripped of his 2006 Tour de France win over doping, then fought the allegation for four years. He even lied about his actions in his 2007 book, "Positively False," in which he also said he had no evidence that Lance Armstrong had used performance-enhancing drugs (PEDs). However, he has since changed his tune, and not only says that Armstrong used PEDs, but that in the WSJ report, detailed incidents, including one from 2004.

Armstrong has steadily denied any use of PEDs, whether at the Tour de France or elsewhere. In May of this year, Armstrong said, "Floyd lost his credibility a long time ago. We have a person who has been under oath several times with a completely different version, written a book with a completely different version, someone that took money. He said he has no proof. It is his word versus ours. We like our word. We like where we stand and we like our credibility."

Lance Armstrong is seeking his 8th Tour de France victory, and is riding this year for Team Radio Shack. He earlier announced that win or lose, this was his final ride in the Tour de France. Armstrong last won in 2005. He's 38, which is fairly ancient in cycling.

In addition to implicating Lance Armstrong, in great detail in the WSJ, story, Landis also brought up the U.S. Postal Service team director Johan Bruyneel in the WSJ report. In 2004, upset when his carbon-fiber bike snapped, Landis investigated and by calling the team's equipment sponsors, determined that a number of bikes, 60 to be exact, were not accounted for. Landis discovered that some of the bikes were being sold for cash, which . Bruyneel told him was used to fund the team's doping program.

All of this is one person's word against another's. As Lance Armstrong enters his final Tour de France, many still believe him to be a cycling god, and it is unlikely any past evidence will be discovered that ties him to PEDs, at least forensically.

Meanwhile, Landis sits on the sidelines of the Tour de France, watching with envy.


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: allegations; armstrong; landis; tourdefrance
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1 posted on 07/03/2010 2:56:18 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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Meanwhile, Landis sits on the sidelines of the Tour de France, watching with envy.

I think that's pretty much the root of the matter.
2 posted on 07/03/2010 3:01:00 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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I hadn’t really noticed this guy Landis before. Evidently one of those “everybody does it” kind of rat finks. With his record, his credibility is zero.


3 posted on 07/03/2010 3:09:16 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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I use to really like Floyd BUT he screwed up- Cheated. Lance has been tested more than any human and todays result shows he is in great condition. Floyd just may have given Lance some added motivation.


5 posted on 07/03/2010 3:17:34 PM PDT by DCmarcher-976453 (SARAH PALIN 2012)
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To: Skip Away
Personally, I believe Landis.

Why would you believe him? He is already on record as being a liar........

6 posted on 07/03/2010 3:17:34 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Peanut butter was just peanut butter until I found Free Republic.........)
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Landis is disgraced. What's in it for him to say all this other than wanting to be completely clean of it. It's either that or he's mentally ill.
7 posted on 07/03/2010 3:19:02 PM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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Landis called doping in cycling "systematic," in a Wall Street Journal report.
Um..I think he means "systemic".
9 posted on 07/03/2010 3:26:39 PM PDT by Krankor
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What's in it for him to say all this

Absolutely nothing other than to try and raise his profile up to that of Armstrong's by saying that he was busted and Armstrong wasn't..........

Sour grapes Floyd, as a previous poster stated, Armstrong has been the most extensively tested rider in TDF history and has proven negative every time; despite the attempts of the French poodles to discredit him...........

Now I'm waiting for the anti-Armstrong politicians and moral absolutists to jump in and start bashing him........

10 posted on 07/03/2010 3:31:53 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Peanut butter was just peanut butter until I found Free Republic.........)
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Armstrong should be suing him.


13 posted on 07/03/2010 3:34:09 PM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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Now I'm waiting for the anti-Armstrong politicians and moral absolutists to jump in and start bashing him........

Damn, even as I spoke, along comes Skip Away.........


14 posted on 07/03/2010 3:36:34 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Peanut butter was just peanut butter until I found Free Republic.........)
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To: Skip Away

Nope, that’s why it’s in quotes in the article. Systematic and systemic are often confused.

systemic= “pertaining to or affecting the body as a whole”


16 posted on 07/03/2010 3:39:19 PM PDT by Krankor
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To: Skip Away
If you are naive enough to believe he’s not a doper

WHERE IS THE PROOF SKIPPY???????? SHOW ME THE PROOF!

The entire European cycling community has been demanding the same thing for the past 10 years and Armstrong has tested negative time and time and time and time and time again, ad nauseum............

When are you going to release yourself from this sick, perverted, subconscious hatred of Lance Armstrong?????

I would recommend psychologic counseling but I'm not sure your health insurance will cover it. If it does, take advantage of it! You'll be a happier Skippy for it.........

19 posted on 07/03/2010 3:44:45 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Peanut butter was just peanut butter until I found Free Republic.........)
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Is Barry Bonds clean too in your fantasy world?

This isn't a Barry Bonds thread Skippy......but let me counter with this: Is your wife still doing your son's baseball coach?

20 posted on 07/03/2010 3:49:17 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Peanut butter was just peanut butter until I found Free Republic.........)
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