Posted on 07/15/2010 7:50:40 PM PDT by Lucky9teen
Got this from my brother in law...
Today, a Census worker visited my home because I didn't complete the form that I sent in earlier this year. I filmed our conversation and tried to tell him about my deep concerns regarding the Census questionnaire and what I see as an unconstitutional overreach.
Here is how this nice, well meaning, but misinformed man reacted. It's a bit long, but it's worth the watch; especially the portions where he admits to being administered the oath to uphold and defend the Constitution, but also admits he hasn't ever read the whole thing, and even the stuff he had read was a long time ago.
Here are the links to the three part video:
Logical disconnect. American Citizens who happened to be on Japanese heritage vs. Japanese citizens whom we were at war with. It was and remains a very bad idea to lock up American citizens for no other reason than their race.
And I think glee over the A-Bombs is the wrong description. It was, and in my mind, remains a matter of relief that those weapons ended the war and we did not have to endure another battle of Okinawa or Iwo Jima. Many of us Boomers may have never had the opportunity to even be born if that horrible war had dragged on for another year or two. I might add that the Japanese population would have suffered even worse if not for the bombs.
This government has completely rejected God and is going to pay the price. Unfortunately, seems like the majority of the nation has also rejected God and is subject to the same consequences. We have the kind of government the majority deserve...they brought it on themselves by CHOICE.
1 Peter 2:18 Servants, be submissive to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and gentle, but also to those who are unreasonable.
Michelle Bachmann did make that allegation, however it was in fact accurate.
See for instance this article that appeared in the New York Times in 2000: http://www.seattlepi.com/national/cens17.shtml
Then in 2007, new documents released by the government showed that the census was involved more than had been previously admitted: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-03-30-census-role_N.htm ... quote: The Census Bureau turned over confidential information including names and addresses to help the Justice Department, Secret Service and other agencies identify Japanese-Americans during World War II, according to government documents released today.
Seeing as both of these were found in the first page of a Bing search for "japan census used for internment" and within the first 3 pages of the same search on Google, I would suggest your "research" method is somewhat faulty.
You are deliberately ignoring the timeline I discovered and specific locales.
And regarding whether the Constitution details the information to be collected in the Census, yes it does, in Article I, section 2 -- it is for an enumeration (or counting) every ten years, for the sole purpose of determining House of Representative representation according to the population counted. There is nothing about race or gender or name or telephone number or housing, etc. So the ONLY thing that was legitimate & constitutional in the current census form was question #1...How many people reside at the residence as of April 1.
ps. I just got back from the weekend. I did not see any more notices of a census worker stopping by. Maybe they will be back this week....I hope so!!!
The first census of the United States was conducted in 1790. For that enumeration, the name of the Head of Household was recorded and the numbers of people living in that household broken down by age group, sex, and whether free or not. Electors could only be free male adults, and usually a property requirement. For the purposes of congressional representation, free persons counted more than slaves. The name of the Head of Household was required to ensure that a proper count had been done. That system, with changes in age groupings continued through 1840.
In 1850, for the first time, the names of all free members of a household were recorded. A separate slave schedule was also prepared. Other information was also provided including age, place of birth, birthplace of parents, value of property, etc. Over the years the information collected has varied but has included name, age, place of birth. Since the census is frequently the only public record that contains this information organized by family groups, this data has become very important for family research.
The census is a public record, but it is embargoed for 72 years in order to protect the private information of the adults enumerated in the census year. The 1930 census became available in 2002, 1940 will be released in 2012 (An interesting Census, the last before all of the demographic changes of WWII). Many other public records are available at your local court house, some of it embargoed and some not. Depends on local and state laws. Most people know the names of their parents and grandparents. Beyond that it gets sketchy depending on the family. That’s where the census has proven to be invaluable.
The Constitution requires enumeration, whether or not that other information can be collected is the question. Certainly, these days the government knows much more about you than is contained on the census form. You can bet that when you apply for that Social Security Check and Medicare you are going to be giving the government lots of private information. I don’t have a problem with the current form, but the periodic survey is another matter. Although administered by the Census Bureau, its not the enumeration.
Regarding the type of information that is requested and the history of the census, which you laid out very nicely, I thank you and appreciate it.
That being said, I will still answer question #1 - how many reside at this household as of April 1, and #9 - race = American. And since I can't stand the commie pig 0b0z0 chief usurper-in-crap, or the socialist demoRAT pigs in office & their orwellian bureaucracies, I am looking forward to opening up a can of whoop ass on the poor census worker, beginning with a rant against 0b0z0 and his missing long form birth certificate, his inability to get a U.S. passport until 2004 when he became a U.S. senator, his missing academic records, his multiple social security numbers, etc. Does the census worker have anything to do with 0b0z0's missing information? Of course not. I'm just looking forward to a good old fashioned ranting and ass whooping on the fed "gubmint"!
Actually, 72 years is when families forget who great grandma was, etc. Also key to getting back to 82 years, 102 years, etc. In my own case, my dad’s family was well known, those people never tired of talking about themselves. My mother’s side was just the opposite, no one knew very much about those not living.
I think your time and energy would be better put getting rid of your elective representative, whomever that may be. I understand the frustration with government, though - its gone too far no doubt.
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