Posted on 07/31/2010 8:45:19 AM PDT by Dengar01
Thanks for posting that. Actually, they just got a Burger King, their very first fast food establishment in history. Not exactly a dazzling urban mecca.
How else would you go about butchering a pregnant cow?
Apparently you are unfamiliar with processing the meat of most ANY animal, reindeer, cattle, chickens, pigs, catfish, gators, whatever. American indians prized fetal "buffalo" calves for their excellent meat, and when they drove herds of bison off "jumps" or cliffs to kill them they didn't sort out the pregnant females first so as to avoid harming them. It was a vital way of life to kill bison this way before the Indians learned about horses.
Since meat spoils the warmer it gets- and the bigger the animal is the more critical it is- you open it up immediately so as to cool it off faster, propping it open with a stick if need be. A whale having blubber and all probably needs to be gutted extra swiftly because bacteria would multiply like crazy inside all that insulation. The guts have to be removed as quickly as possible, because guts have a lot of bacteria in them, not to mention the intestines are loaded with excrement.
Now if you're butchering a caribou and live in the far north where vitamin C is scarce the tradition was to pull out the stomach and open that up to get at the mosses and lichens the caribou ate and partially digested. People had to eat that. It's gross, but it was a lifesaver in the times before pharmacies. You could then use the empty stomach as a container.
If an animal happens to be pregnant you still have to gut it, and since the calf is in the gut, then it has to come out. You can't work around it just because there's some folks out there who think their chicken tenders and burgers are grown on vines who can't stomach the sight.
Once you gut the pregnant animal then you pull the calf out of the gut pile and gut the calf as well. The hunter's usually going to want the livers, hearts, and other parts of both animals. No point in wasting any of it.
Is it a pretty sight? No. Lion kills or aren't pretty to look at either, particlularly if you like gazelles. Neither is it a pretty sight when orcas kill other cetaceans- and killer whales do target the young and the weak. I doubt the neatural predators of whales give much thought to how it looks when they tear open their prey.
Believe me, it isn't a pretty sight to see those chickens get killed to make chicken tenders, or a pig- an animal at least as intelligent as a dog- get killed for those baby back ribs. At least the whales weren't raised in a tiny pen or cage with no life experiences at all as is much of our food supply, and gorged on by people who eat as much as they do because they didn't have to do their own killing.
An interesting looking place, and while I think I would enjoy visiting, I would not want to live there.
As for the whales, we all do what we need do to survive. It is my hope that in the not too distant future, we’ll be harvesting democrats to sell to the Chinese.
Is the animal already dead when they disembowel the damn thing?
I don't want you all to misunderstand me, I am a meat eater and I could never go vegan I'd probably become a canibal first but I don't enjoy the point of disemboweling creatures while they are still alive, I wouldn't even do that to the racoons that trash my garbage each week.
If you are going to kill an animal, make it fast. When the Japanese hunt the Minke and Fin Whales it sometimes takes 30 - 40 minutes for them to die after being A) Harpooned and B) Shot with Rifles or C) Drowned to death.
I don't think that you have to necessarily be a radical left wing lunatic like the Sea Shepherd folk and still support treating animals in a "humane" way. If you are going to kill it chop it's F'ing head off. That's what my grandpa did to the damn chickens. Quick and painless.
When people are torturing animals out of pure pleasure well, that is just disgusting. And I know that I have the support of many FReepers with that statement.
I don't support Sea Shepherd but I don't support the Japs either. I don't think we need to kill whales in 2010. I am a sap, I went to Alaska and got to see a gray whale from 10 yards and humpbacks at 30 yards. I don't want to see these amazing creatures tortured when we can't even torture Al-Qaeda. I think disembowling a creature while it's still alive is sure as hell a lot worse than putting pantys on the head of some terrorist filth bag!
If you wanna label me fringe, so be it. I've been here almost 10 years and stand up for what I believe in. I am conservative on everything but do have a soft spot for animals, mainly because I grew up in the forest where I got to see every type of creature you can see.
My next post will be completely biased as it will be coming from Sea Shepherd but I want you all to see the horror of what happened in the whale massacre.
I think if you enjoy torturing animals then you are a sick person. The profile of a serial killer begins with them torturing animals and eventually leads to them killing human beings. So I'd be careful when you praise the backward natives.
The backward natives known as the Aztec did human sacrifice should we kowtow to them? The Mayans rolled heads down pyramids, should we kowtow to their tradition?
This tradition argument is complete BS and you all know it.
If someone can logically explain to me how torturing a creature for 40 minutes is OK, then I would love to hear your explanation. If not you are a sick person and should see a psychiatrist immediately.
Is the animal already dead when they disembowel the damn thing?
I don't want you all to misunderstand me, I am a meat eater and I could never go vegan I'd probably become a canibal first but I don't enjoy the point of disemboweling creatures while they are still alive, I wouldn't even do that to the racoons that trash my garbage each week.
If you are going to kill an animal, make it fast. When the Japanese hunt the Minke and Fin Whales it sometimes takes 30 - 40 minutes for them to die after being A) Harpooned and B) Shot with Rifles or C) Drowned to death.
I don't think that you have to necessarily be a radical left wing lunatic like the Sea Shepherd folk and still support treating animals in a "humane" way. If you are going to kill it chop it's F'ing head off. That's what my grandpa did to the damn chickens. Quick and painless.
When people are torturing animals out of pure pleasure well, that is just disgusting. And I know that I have the support of many FReepers with that statement.
I don't support Sea Shepherd but I don't support the Japs either. I don't think we need to kill whales in 2010. I am a sap, I went to Alaska and got to see a gray whale from 10 yards and humpbacks at 30 yards. I don't want to see these amazing creatures tortured when we can't even torture Al-Qaeda. I think disembowling a creature while it's still alive is sure as hell a lot worse than putting pantys on the head of some terrorist filth bag!
If you wanna label me fringe, so be it. I've been here almost 10 years and stand up for what I believe in. I am conservative on everything but do have a soft spot for animals, mainly because I grew up in the forest where I got to see every type of creature you can see.
My next post will be completely biased as it will be coming from Sea Shepherd but I want you all to see the horror of what happened in the whale massacre.
I think if you enjoy torturing animals then you are a sick person. The profile of a serial killer begins with them torturing animals and eventually leads to them killing human beings. So I'd be careful when you praise the backward natives.
The backward natives known as the Aztec did human sacrifice should we kowtow to them? The Mayans rolled heads down pyramids, should we kowtow to their tradition?
This tradition argument is complete BS and you all know it.
If someone can logically explain to me how torturing a creature for 40 minutes is OK, then I would love to hear your explanation. If not you are a sick person and should see a psychiatrist immediately.
Anyways here is a link from Sea Shepherd WHICH IS LEFT WING BIASED but it does include VERY GRAPHIC PICTURES, VIEWER WARNING!!!
http://www.seashepherd.org/news-and-media/news-100720-1.html
I find this whole torture the whales thing disgusting, but that is just my opinion and the good thing about Free Republic is we can disagree and still not hate eachother or go down to the level of the left wing loons.
The article said 4 minutes, not 40 minutes. And that account was given by an anti-whaling activist.
Anti-whaling activist Peter Hammarstedt, 28, exposed last week's killings by posing as a film-maker in the fishing town of Klaksvik.
He said: "One whale had five to six chops to her head. Her death would have been slow and extremely painful. Some whales are hacked repeatedly for up to four minutes until they finally die. When I got to the docks it was a truly gruesome sight."
So even the biased account from the activist with an axe to grind doesn't sound like such a terrible thing to me. Not that I'd like to be hacked to death over four minutes. But I'd prefer not to be shot in the head prior to being butchered as well. And, given the source, I discount the brutality described. I don't support whale hunting, I just can't get emotionally traumatized by this account and photos. So should I see a psychiatrist immediately?
No, that was directed to danamco who demonstrates that (he/she) is mentally unstable, from the comments made on this thread.
Wrong island.
The whale is not a fish. It is an insect.
Yeah, I read it wrong. But good job picking up a couple day old thread ;o)
can’t be here every day . . .
Ouch. That hurt.
From a marketing standpoint, lets stick with fish. They'll be easier to sell that way..........
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