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To: vox_freedom; GladesGuru
What are your ideas about child sex abuse and how children can be protected from evil? No laws, no rules, leave it up to citizens? Huh?

Read post 122 and be prepared to lose your lunch. This is what he thinks......As madison said, there is NO Constitutional authority for government to do charity. That means, government should keep its hands off the family.

Yes, some children will be beaten, seduced, raped, even killed. But, given that government intervention is worse - perhaps we must rely on family and neighbors, and church members.

Some people think it's better that some children's lives are destroyed that for the government to be able to do anything about it.

174 posted on 08/03/2010 3:45:56 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom; GladesGuru; wagglebee; little jeremiah
So some actually believe in a free for all and no governmental protection for the innocent -- young or old?

Crazy libertarian opinions are dangerous for society and especially for the most vulnerable. If one reads my FR homepage, the distinction between government intervention and its authority and non-profit and church preferences become quite evident.

But, let's be clear, there there is no substitute for governmental authority for criminal prosecutions against those who would harm innocents. Those who think otherwise are either stupid, naive, or certifiable.

And anecdotal examples (and there are plenty) do not suffice to overturn this authority. Government accountability is always necessary, and yes, it would be better if good prevailed with primarily social services provided by non-profits and churches -- but that alone is not sufficient, and to believe otherwise is simply wrong-headed.

175 posted on 08/03/2010 4:06:49 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: metmom; vox_freedom; GladesGuru

Post 122 is among the most disturbing posts I’ve ever read.


176 posted on 08/03/2010 4:20:33 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: metmom

Had you read what I posted, rather than what you want to see, you would have know I said that government intervention in the family caused more of the evils it was originally supposed to alleviate.

Got that - government custody of children causes more abuse than it cures and that is from the government’s own data.

Rather than blaming be for the agency failure, consider trying to find a more effective or workable solution.

Madison was correct - note that when he disregarded his advice and allowed agencies to take children, we wound up with agencies that Exacerbate, rather than Alleviate, the problem said agencies were created to deal with.


177 posted on 08/03/2010 4:49:57 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: metmom

Had you read what I posted, rather than what you want to see, you would have know I said that government intervention in the family caused more of the evils it was originally supposed to alleviate.

Got that - government custody of children causes more abuse than it cures and that is from the government’s own data.

Rather than blaming be for the agency failure, consider trying to find a more effective or workable solution.

Madison was correct - note that when he disregarded his advice and allowed agencies to take children, we wound up with agencies that Exacerbate, rather than Alleviate, the problem said agencies were created to deal with.


178 posted on 08/03/2010 4:50:27 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: metmom

“Some people think it’s better that some children’s lives are destroyed that for the government to be able to do anything about it.”

Discussing this with you is like talking to a Liberal.

Please understand I gave you data indicating government tried to do something about the children at risk - and failed.

I did not say this failure was a good thing, I said this failure was probably unavoidable, and part of attempts to have government do the things it was not allowed to do by the Constitution.

Your supoort for the present agencies/laws is clear. Also clear is the failure of same.

Now - got any answers to my question of “What next?”


180 posted on 08/03/2010 4:55:13 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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