Posted on 08/22/2010 6:12:51 PM PDT by RobinMasters
Obama can end the "birthers" controversy in one single day by releasing the original documents, but for some inexplicable reason he refuses, and the love-struck media never ask him why...
Trust but verify.
-- Ronald Reagan
It's good practice to take a person at his word until someone shows you proof he is lying.
Barack Obama says he was born in Hawaii, and since no one has shown any proof he was born in Kenya or elsewhere, it's OK to conclude he was born in Hawaii.
Sure his grammar school records show that he was enrolled as an Indonesian Muslim, but some people will say anything to get their kid in the right school. It doesn't really answer the question.
It's OK though for others not to use my deferential standard and continue to question whether Obama was born in Hawaii. We aren't talking about a 12-year-old qualifying to play Little League here. There is a Constitutional mandate that the President be a natural-born citizen, and if Obama is not one, he certainly will have committed the biggest fraud since the White Sox threw the World Series.
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We do have confirmation that all of the journOlists did their job to ensure that Barack Obama was elected to the highest office in the land. There were plenty of legal challenges to force Zero to prove his natural born status prior to the election - not one of those challenges could force Zero to produce his birth record that tells us what hospital he was born in and who the delivering doctor was.
Ann Coulter must know what hospital he was born in and have seen the document because she called "birthers" kooks! Never mind the simple fact that a legal birth record is all that "birthers" are looking for! Wow - kooky people that want to see the constitution folowed. Ann lost alot of credibility by siding with Obama's team.
I have been castigated in the past for saying this, but I’ll say it again. IMO, its more likely that Obama went to college and accumulated grants as a foreign student than it is that he was born in Kenya. To accomplish this, he possibly committed numerous frauds, including possessing multiple identities, Social Security numbers and passports.
Now, if you’re REALLY into conspiracies and you believe Obama is NOT a natural born citizen, play it out. Its discovered Obama was born in Kenya, and therefore he is ineligible. It invalidated the election, so Biden does not become President. Speaker of the House Pelosi validated Obama’s eligibility. so she’s gone and it falls to the President Pro Tempore of The Senate, who upon the death of Senator Byrd fell to Sen. Daniel Inouye, born in the TERRITORY of Hawaii to Japanese parents. Too many questions about his eligibility so the Presidency goes to THE SECRETARY OF STATE....HILLARY CLINTON!!!
I told you! If you like conspiracies, and Obama does get outed as ineligible, you have to admit that’s a good one!
Wass up noob troll?
There were actually three political operatives working in the State Department who got into the files of the presidential candidates during the last election.
They got into the files of Obama, McCain, and Clinton. But all three of them had links to Obama, and it would appear that getting into the other files was intended to mask what they were doing.
They were not looking for dirt, which was what they pretended. They were cleaning out Obama’s files and shredding them, to destroy possibly embarrassing or incriminating evidence.
One of these three operatives was about to testify before authorities who were investigating the matter. He was found in DC, shot. The Washington Times (see #16) appears to have been the only one to have covered this story, and even they did not draw the obvious conclusions about what was going on.
As far as I know, nobody picked up the significance of this article until almost a year later, when it was resurrected and discussed on FR. Otherwise, it has been virtually ignored by everyone.
If Obama lied about his citizenship, not only should he be thrown in jail immediately, but every single travesty he has committed as President of the United States is null and void. No La Razans on the Supreme Court. No Communist Rubber Stamp Jurists who wouldn't even know how to wipe unless Obama told them. No 2000+ page Healthcare abomination. No Arizona lawsuit. None. Nada. Default, Game Over, this nightmare didn't happen.
I'm not sure about this. I may be wrong, but I believe the 20th Amendment would apply, and that amendment seems to look to the Vice President to be President.
Section 3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.
Since in this situation described the President would not be able to qualify then I would imagine that Biden would simply be President. Of course, this does refer to qualifying while still not sworn in as it uses the term "President elect," and that may even mean that once sworn in the President is legitimate no matter what.
Flaw, what flaw, there is no flaw in the system there is only the failure of those in charge to enforce the system....just like immigration and everything else.
Go look up NBC and ask your self if omama qualifies, then look what he's doing to your Country....the BC is the real distraction, the NBC clause it the heart of the matter.
In his book he claims to have found his BC and he used it for a bookmark or something.
“Does that make them “stranglerationists”?
Polysyllabificationizing is strictly forbiddenated.
As with the JFK assassination, you have to separate the cover-up from the crime. They are two different things which may only overlap in small and sometimes inconsequential ways. Any number of ‘interested parties’
may have highly specific reasons for covering up their own part of the puzzle. It doesn’t mean they were responsible directly for the crime. Lots of people would be highly embarrassed and their reputations questioned to have taken part in any kind of coverup. But, naturally, participating in a coverup on any level immediately leads people to think
you’re culpable. In Obama’s case , it’s not just the mysteriously unavailable BC that’s missing, it’s virtually EVERY bit of mundane data that any of us could produce and have produced any number of times but that Obama and his handlers have NOT produced and SEE NO REASON TO PRODUCE.
THIS attitude only compounds the profound suspicion that millions of even relatively politically disengaged Americans have to admit lurks somewhere at the back of their minds, creating a spooky sense of distrust and queasiness that won’t go away.Couple all that with EVERYTHING about his thoroughly dishonest Agenda and the way his Democratic Party cheerleaders has chosen to implement it, and you have an unprecedented situation NONE of us have ever seen in American politics.
You premise is completely false, we have Constitutional law to back up bammies ineligibility...the marxist is not a Natural Born Citizen by his own admission, this is NO JFK "conspiracy"
Actually, the 20th Amendment says that if a President elect “fails to qualify” by Jan 20th the vice president elect is to “act as President until a President shall have qualified.”
The HDOH has made a statutory admission that Obama’s birth certificate is amended. According to Hawaii law, that means his birth certificate has no legal value unless it is presented as evidence to a judicial or administrative person or body and determined to be probative. We know that Obama fought hard to make sure that never happened.
On Jan 20th obody in this entire nation could legally say what age Obama was (or today, for that matter) because the facts of his birth (based on a Hawaii BC) have never been legally determined. There is no way he “qualified” by Jan 20, 2009. We know that the only person the Constitution allows to act as President right now is Joe Biden.
That may be why Justice Stevens called Joe Biden “Mr. President” after swearing him in.
There were plenty of legal challenges to force Zero to prove his natural born status prior to the election - not one of those challenges could force Zero to produce his birth record that tells us what hospital he was born in and who the delivering doctor was.
That is true, but I fear that the people bringing the charge had no legal standing, which is very important in such cases. The only standing we have legally is probably in the polling booth. I really don't think the Constitution requires that candidates prove anything to the general public beyond what they are willing to force by withholding their votes. Congress is most likely the body with the legal standing in this. Obama, IIRC, has claimed that he showed the relevant people the proof, and a number of congress members did claim to have seen it. Unfortunately I think he probably met, insofar as Congress said he did, the legal obligation he was under and at no time did any member of the public have a chance in a courtroom.
Ann Coulter must know what hospital he was born in and have seen the document because she called "birthers" kooks! Never mind the simple fact that a legal birth record is all that "birthers" are looking for! Wow - kooky people that want to see the constitution folowed. Ann lost alot of credibility by siding with Obama's team.
Is that why she calls them "kooks" or could it be because she just doesn't like them or thinks that they make conservatives or Republicans look bad? I have a feeling the latter is as likely as the former, unless she has specifically stated otherwise.
But, in any case, I will readily admit I have never been all that crazy about Ann Coulter. I think she is snarky, and not usually in a good way. But, as a commentator or whatever she is considered, she is okay. She falls in the right more than the wrong, and that is better than most. I personally don't require she be right about everything all the time, and I am okay that she is usually right. That is much better than most people in the journalism-ish industry. I don't know if I would trust WND any more than I would Ann Coulter, or if I see them any differently really.
Sarah Palin would have, but McCain wouldn’t let her.
I suspect that Soros told him to roll over and die or Soros would make an electronic run on the bank that would destroy the economy of the entire western world.
And Alan Keyes and another candidate asked the questions. The courts blew them off. That’s where we’re at right now. Lawless.
But right now anybody who has been harmed by Obama “acting as President” when only Joe Biden can Constitutionally do so has standing to sue. It doesn’t have to be somebody harmed by the election, because the prohibition against Obama having the presidential powers extends beyond the election or any point since.
Because Obama had not “qualified” by Jan 20, 2009 the Constitution only allows Joe Biden to “act as President” -act as CIC, nominate SCOTUS justices, issue presidential orders, sign or veto bills, authorize a court-martial, appoint cabinet members, etc.
Anybody who has suffered particularized harm which can be remedied by the courts has standing to sue the government for the actions of this POTUS who is forbidden by the Constitution from having the presidential powers.
Polysyllabificationizing is strictly forbiddenated.
Fabulous. Just fabulous. It also looks like a quote from Finnegans Wake.
The logic is simple to me. It is illogical to not be a birther.
There is no way he “qualified” by Jan 20, 2009. We know that the only person the Constitution allows to act as President right now is Joe Biden.
You make a very valid point. I am inclined to agree with your assessment that it would be the VP who would be President in the case we are discussing. Unfortunately, I don't think anyone but Congress could demand he qualify now, and I don't see that happening. So he will continue to be President.
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