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Obama's to Blame for the Birther Movement
FOX News ^ | 7/29/2009 | Tommy De Seno

Posted on 08/22/2010 6:12:51 PM PDT by RobinMasters

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0bama's to Blame for the Birther Movement

. . . . Click on the Fox News link and read the article.

[Thanks, Slings and Arrows.]

61 posted on 08/22/2010 10:00:44 PM PDT by LucyT (~We lived in the best place, in the best of times, in all of human history. - LucyT)
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To: RobinMasters
I find no fault with the introductory clause, which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself a natural-born citizen.

The quotation is from the 1866 address to the House of Representatives by Congressman John Bingam, principal author of the 14th Amendment, judge, abolitionist, as well as the adjutant general who prosecuted Lincoln's assassins..

Ignore the propagandists, the journolistas, the trolls. Obama’s father, and Obama the son, had allegiance to England, by law. Obama confirmed that on his web site. He also counted on ignorance in the public of this obscure provision in our Constitution, and cleverly cornered the Republicans by helping McCain, both to get nominated, and then through Senate Actions which perport to make him eligible - "S.2768 110th Congress" To clarify the law and ensure that children born to United States citizens while serving overseas in the military are eligible to become President." and S.Res 511 in which Patrick Leahy states “Because he was born to American citizens, there is no doubt in my mind that Senator McCain is a natural born citizen.” What do you think all this was about - two Senate judiary actions about McCain in two months during an election year? McCain always was, and remains ineligible, or Obama election committee members, McCaskill, wouldn't have had any reason to try to pass a law.

Hidden documents are all intended distraction. Read our founders and framers, and read Patrick Leahy and Clair McCaskill, whose fake bills and resolutions were co-sponsored by Obama, Clinton, Webb, and others (fake because they know only an emendment can modify the Consitution). Obama was their ShamWow guy. He has real talent as a con man. They found a way to obscure his Constitutional ineligibility in a fashion remarkably similar to Chester Arthur, who hid and then burned his private documents before he died.

62 posted on 08/22/2010 10:04:20 PM PDT by Spaulding
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To: Windflier

There is the real possibility that releasing all his history could lead to criminal charges. But of course he’s supposedly half black and a Democrat, so being held to the law isn’t really likely, is it!


63 posted on 08/22/2010 10:09:57 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dem voters, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when deceived.)
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To: LucyT
TANKS,Lu,,,

All it takes is $12.50 to prove who/what he is,,,

But Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

He has to spend millions to hide the facts,,,

There facts should be proof enough that he is hiding

his LIES!!!...

64 posted on 08/22/2010 10:14:36 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: LucyT; Slings and Arrows; RobinMasters; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; ...

The longer this drags out, the more and more people will question just what it is he’s hiding.

A long-form BC would have been brandished and waved around long ago. So, that’s not it.

I am strongly inclined to believe he’s not a natural born citizen (born in the U.S. of two American parents) because that would have been revealed a long time ago also. It would have been revealed even if his birth had been under less than honorable circumstances (e.g. he was the product of a prostitute and her client, or he was a bastard, etc.).

No, this is something more serious.


65 posted on 08/22/2010 10:16:15 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: MHGinTN
There is the real possibility that releasing all his history could lead to criminal charges.

Yeah, like impeachment, criminal prosecution and prison!

Of course, there are even worse things than Obama winding up in the slammer. The tentacles of corruption emanating from his office could (and probably would) reach far and wide. Possibly hundreds of co-conspirators would fall with him, and lots of those would be higher-ups in the Democrat party and the progressive machine. It could lead to a wholesale destruction of everything left-of-center in this country.

66 posted on 08/22/2010 10:28:59 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Your posting to God’s eyes ... Lord, please make it so!


67 posted on 08/22/2010 10:37:41 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dem voters, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when deceived.)
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To: LucyT

Always a pleasure.


68 posted on 08/22/2010 10:59:47 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("I can't possibly get into trouble letting my monkey carry grenades." --Gen. Karl Tagon)
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To: LucyT

Popcorn.


69 posted on 08/22/2010 11:00:50 PM PDT by bitt (John Bolton/LizCheney for 2012)
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To: butterdezillion

I know you’ve followed this situation closely. Has anyone checked into the this court? http://www.cit.uscourts.gov/informational/about.htm#JURISDICTION

“This legislation will offer the international trade community, as well as domestic interests, consumer groups, labor organizations, and other concerned citizens, a vastly improved forum for judicial review of administrative actions of government agencies dealing with importations.

It would seem that once Obama signed anything regarding international trade, the game could be on? I’m even thinking some of the tariffs could apply and China does not have to be the plaintiff? An amicus brief?

Grabbing at straws, I know, but the idea intrigues me...


70 posted on 08/23/2010 12:12:26 AM PDT by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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To: Cicero; marron

Thank you very much for filling me in.


71 posted on 08/23/2010 3:37:54 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: EDINVA

My friend, I was referring to the saying “at the end of the day” which is widely used by Brits when summing up a position. My highlighting the Brits had nothing to do with Obama, our constitution, etc. My point is Obama’a birth date and place, plus his religion which I believe he is IMHO a devout and practicing Muslim wil;l have little to do with this upcoming election. For goodness sakes these item, while important & crucial compare zilch to his killing our economy and millions of Americans being unemployed with no hope of gettiing a job. I repeat, Obama hates American and all Ameericans and wants to destroy our economy and country!!! So.....I for one, will keep posting my little tidbits on the upcoming Election Day because this may be our only chance to save our country for our children, grandchildren and children to come!!!


72 posted on 08/23/2010 4:40:27 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

.......I believe he is IMHO a devout and practicing Muslim .....

My thought is that Obama is a typical liberal radical that has no religion at all. The point of being liberal is to cast off the moral and ethical shackles and bonds of religion, be it Christian or Islam or Hindu. One cannot be truly liberal and religious.

I wonder though, what court worthy evidence do you have to indicate he is a presently practicing Muslim ?


73 posted on 08/23/2010 5:29:40 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Greetings Jacques. The revolution is coming)
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To: thecodont; LucyT; Slings and Arrows; RobinMasters; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; ...
No, this is something more serious.

The "more serious" part is that elected officials of the democrat Party, AND the then President, GWB, did not defend the Constitution when BHO, Jr. announced his candidacy. 50 State Governments allowed him on their ballot. The then VP, led The Electoral College in voting for him. The Chief Justice of the SCOTUS swore him in.

And O, just BTW, of course he is not a "Natural Born Citizen." Yet, he will be our POTUS until 2012. This is driving everyone crazy, He is, but he should not be. Cognitive Dissonance.

74 posted on 08/23/2010 5:35:51 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The Republican Party was founded to Save the Union. Can it now Save the Republic?)
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To: FreeStateYank

I’m not sure whether a law Obama signed would work, just because it would become law even without a President’s signature, as it’s been explained to me. It would have to be something that depended on the POTUS.

That’s why Lt Col Lakin’s case is so powerful - because it brings up the issue of what the military can do without a Commander-in-Chief. Most things they can do, but something strategic like the surge depends on orders from either the CIC or the Sec Def, who can only be appointed or retained by a valid POTUS.

I’ve always thought that if somebody requested records about Obama and was denied them because of Obama’s presidential order immediately after the inauguration, they would have standing to sue because that order was not given by Joe Biden, the only person the Constitution authorizes to give presidential orders.

Anybody who was replaced by an Obama appointee - such as a US attorney who served under Bush but who Obama supposedly replaced - would have standing to sue.

If Obama would veto something, Congress would have standing to sue, or anybody who would have benefitted from the vetoed bill.

The states challenging the healthcare bill or Arizona in court over their enforcement law would have standing to sue for the removal of Sotomayor and Kagan from the SCOTUS bench because they were not nominated by Joe Biden.

Anybody whose case makes it to SCOTUS could probably do the same (although there may be a question of whether the Sotomayor and Kagan votes would obviously turn the decision against the person filing suit).

I’m sure that with enough brainstorming, there’s probably even a Freeper who would in some way have standing. I’m not a lawyer and don’t know much about the ins and outs of everyday practice, but if people start thinking about the possibilities, I think the issue of standing will be overcome.


75 posted on 08/23/2010 5:43:30 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: cothrige; Windflier

Linguistostrangulationists


76 posted on 08/23/2010 5:47:07 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: palmer

You are a cunning linguist...


77 posted on 08/23/2010 6:51:41 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 575 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

I understand that the economy is a pressing, urgent priority of the moment. Our current Congressional leadership has shown that they would only drive this country farther over the cliff. They must be replaced in November.

However, the American people have, historically, had an uncanny ability to ‘walk and chew gum at the same time.’ We’ve had the ability, historically, to handle war on two fronts, and other critical issues simultaneously.

The USA in the 30’s survived the Great Depression. It could, tho no one would invite it, survive another Great Depression. We would certainly see what Americans of the new millennium are made of, compared to their parents/grand- or great grandparents.

What we cannot survive is the destruction of our Constitution. IF we have elected a man who is not qualified under the Constitution to hold the position of POTUS, a man in particular who down to his core despises all that this country has stood for historically, that is, in the bigger picture, far more important than the present economy.

We handle short-term priorities, like the upcoming election, in the short term. Somewhat longer-term is turning around the economy that can only be done by taking care of that short-term priority.

But in the long-term, in perpetuity, we cannot overlook what has gotten us to where we were as recently as a few short years ago, and that is the U.S. Constitution. We let that go, and nothing else much matters.


78 posted on 08/23/2010 7:42:07 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: RobinMasters
If he really wants the Birthers to shut up,

What makes you think he wants them to shut up? I suspect it's quite the opposite.

he has the power to do it by releasing the original documents.

LOL. The idiot who wrote this article really is naive. To anyone who thinks releasing any document at all will shut the birthers up, I can get them a really nice deal on a bridge in New York city.

79 posted on 08/23/2010 9:12:11 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: TheBattman
What I don’t understand - name one president that has not released their REAL birth certificate (since such was available)?

Name one who did, before he left office.

80 posted on 08/23/2010 9:22:33 AM PDT by curiosity
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