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The dirty little secret about Google Android
TechRepublic ^ | August 23rd, 2010 | Jason Hiner

Posted on 08/23/2010 4:53:52 PM PDT by Swordmaker

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1 posted on 08/23/2010 4:53:56 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; 50mm; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; Aliska; ...
Is Android handing the power back to the cellular carriers after Apple broke their locked doors down? This opinion says yes—PING!

Please!
No Flame Wars!
Discuss technical issues, software, and hardware.
Don't attack people!


Google v. Apple Ping!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

2 posted on 08/23/2010 4:56:57 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone!)
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To: Swordmaker

bflr = bump for later reading.


3 posted on 08/23/2010 5:01:27 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Swordmaker

Brilliant.

There is nothing more that can be said than what was in this article.


4 posted on 08/23/2010 5:03:34 PM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Unless the GOP Senate ruins it all...)
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To: Swordmaker
"The phone was sold by Google, unlocked, for roughly $500...Unfortunately, sales of the Nexus One were tepid "

Hm....wonder why?

5 posted on 08/23/2010 5:04:30 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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To: Swordmaker

The even bigger scam perpetuated in the cellphone industry is text messaging. It’s ridiculous.


6 posted on 08/23/2010 5:10:16 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Iowa floods, Obama vacations. Moochelle Obama, please pass the cake.)
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To: Swordmaker
This was predicted many months ago. Android is so open that it leads to fragmentation.
7 posted on 08/23/2010 5:12:26 PM PDT by stripes1776
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To: RachelFaith
There is nothing more that can be said than what was in this article.

That's a dangerous way to get educated.

8 posted on 08/23/2010 5:14:13 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Swordmaker
These aren't the droids you're looking for.

These aren't the droids we're looking for.

He can go about his business.

You can go about your business.

Move along.

Move along... move along

9 posted on 08/23/2010 5:14:26 PM PDT by x
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To: Swordmaker

LOL just got through reading this at TR and sent TheStickman a link.
Of course the unsaid thing in the article is it should have been expected that Google’s main goal is money (and growth/power). They may occasionally have some lofty geeky goals but they come to their senses soon enough.


10 posted on 08/23/2010 5:21:11 PM PDT by visualops (Proud Air Force Mom)
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To: tacticalogic

I assure you, I was not educated by this article, nor was I suggesting anything of the kind.

I read it and I concur with it. That means I can add nothing to it. Which is exactly what I said.

To imply anything else is projection.


11 posted on 08/23/2010 5:26:19 PM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Unless the GOP Senate ruins it all...)
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To: Swordmaker

VERY sorry excuse for an article... I guess the ‘author’ never tried any of the wide variety of HTC or Motorola phones, which come with HTC and Motorola software. You MAY get a carrier logo on it, but that’s about it - it’s the phone maker’s software.

My last two smart phones came with bone-stock WinMo 6 (Samsung i760 bought September 2007) and WinMo 6.1 with HTC’s Touch UI on it (HTC Touch Pro2, bought September 2009). No Verizon software, and the only “Verizon” mark on either was a small logo up by the earpiece and the splash screen when booting (which, of course, you could change as you want - I changed both).

This article is nothing more than FUD meant to stop the tsunami that is Android. Android actually lets manufacturers, dealers, carriers, sellers - heck, even you if you wanted - brand and customize the phone as you desire. That’s called freedom and choice, and used to be celebrated by the technology press. My how times have changed...


12 posted on 08/23/2010 5:36:07 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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Google is fascist.


13 posted on 08/23/2010 5:38:08 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I am currently under federal investigation by the DNC for my opposition to the Ground Zero mosque.)
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To: RachelFaith

“There is nothing more that can be said” is a much different proposition than “There is nothing I can add”.


14 posted on 08/23/2010 5:39:43 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
VERY sorry excuse for an article... I guess the ‘author’ never tried any of the wide variety of HTC or Motorola phones, which come with HTC and Motorola software. You MAY get a carrier logo on it, but that’s about it - it’s the phone maker’s software.

Good point. I have the EVO 4G - and it's a fantastic phone. I really could care less that my carrier has a 3/4" wide logo at the top of the phone. It's like a mini-laptop.

15 posted on 08/23/2010 5:40:47 PM PDT by AlaninSA
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

Gotta agree with PSS here. Tell me, what was the holdup on tethering on the iPhone for the past few years? Was it AT&T stopping Apple from allowing it? Of course it was (AT&T now allows it, if you pay the $20/mo fee). Why did it take so long for Apple to approve a SlingPlayer for iPhone despite the fact that Sling has had one ready for years? Was it because AT&T was afraid of what it would do to their already over-burdened network?

To say that Apple somehow kept AT&T away from the device is nonsense. The article’s point seems to be that Android isn’t as open as it was made out to be. So what? Is the answer to go to a totally closed system created by Apple?


16 posted on 08/23/2010 5:46:00 PM PDT by Echo4C (We have it in our power to begin the world over again. --Thomas Paine)
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To: tacticalogic

Whatever...


17 posted on 08/23/2010 5:47:00 PM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Unless the GOP Senate ruins it all...)
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To: AlaninSA; Echo4C; NoLibZone
And - surprise, surprise - you can LOAD your own applications as you desire, they don't have to be approved by someone else. You can DO with your phone what you want! No need to check with a Big Brother whether or not you can load some application or tool. No need to worry about having your warranty revoked because you want to open your phone's OS so you can use it. No threat (since removed) of being sued because you dared unlock your phone so you could DO what YOU wanted to do.

In fact, you have the source code to the OS - you can change the kernel, write and distribute applications and extensions as you desire. No restrictions from Google or the carriers. Android's kernel is freely downloadable, as are the development tools. You don't have to buy anything or pay anyone to write and distribute programs - it's the ultimate in open platforms.

Yet somehow this is being spun as "Google is Evil", or as we see right above (any coincidence it's post 13?) "Google is Fascist". Open and extensible and control in the user's hand is wrong, closed and capriciously restricted and power only for the carrier or manufacturer is right!

Freedom and choice used to be values of America, and foundations of the tech world. Closed, proprietary, heavily controlled/restricted systems were bad; open and flexible and user-configurable systems were good. I guess we've reached Orwellian time (those "1984" commercials of decades ago notwithstanding) when open and free and power-in-the-user's-hands systems are no fascist, hurtful, and bad...

18 posted on 08/23/2010 5:57:06 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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I have the Samsung Vibrant, without rooting my phone I cannot remove a variety of apps from the phone. To add insult to injury these apps often start themselves. How is this better? It seems this doesn’t do much to give me control. I hope in the next iteration of android they at least make the manufacturer skins totally decoupled from the base os.


19 posted on 08/23/2010 6:41:16 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

“Freedom and choice used to be values of America”

I admit it. Oracle Android is an excellent smartphone operating system. I’m sure Larry Ellison is happy Google chose to distribute it freely... without the proper license agreement. $10 per phone and a revenue share percentage for all mobile advertising will certainly help the Oracle bottom line. :-)


20 posted on 08/23/2010 6:42:11 PM PDT by o2bfree
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