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Where is Beck getting this? I'm just a casual lay "fan" of the AmRevWar, but I've never seen any reference to Redcoats particularly burning churches, and certainly not with people inside.

Is he believing the "Patriot" scenario?

I'm not saying a few of these couldn't have happened - but a regular "campaign" of sorts to burn churches, especially with civilians there?

Does anyone have salient comments on this?

I hope he's not getting...unreliable.

1 posted on 08/28/2010 7:51:43 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel
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To: Pharmboy

If any RevWar people can enlighten me on this point, I’d appreciate it.


2 posted on 08/28/2010 7:53:12 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I know it happened in the battle of Bround Brook. Read the journal of Johann Ewald. British Major John Simcoe burned the Dutch Reformed Church.


3 posted on 08/28/2010 7:56:24 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Let me ask the obvious... where did you attend school?

Beck has had guests for weeks who have brought evidence of history that we were never taught in school. It is all documented, and he even shows the books and interviewed the authors.


5 posted on 08/28/2010 7:58:07 AM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I think that Beck took a scene from Mel Gibson’s fictionalized “The Patriot” as true. There is no evidence that the British burned American churches during the Revolution. Beck’s larger point — the hostility of the British to American religious freedom — is well-founded though. For example, in New York, the British seized non-Anglican churches and used them as barracks and prisons during the Revolution.


6 posted on 08/28/2010 8:01:41 AM PDT by Rockingham
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You really need to read history. Burning churches happened all over the place during the Revolutionary war.

If you’re not into reading boring history texts, you might watch Mel Gibson’s “The Patriot”, it’s in there too.


7 posted on 08/28/2010 8:02:01 AM PDT by Ripliancum ("As He died to make men holy, let us live to make men free")
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ping


8 posted on 08/28/2010 8:04:18 AM PDT by KansasGirl (No, I do not proofread.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Look up the British Raid on Danbury. Oh, wait — let me do it for you. They burned several churches, at least one was Episcopalian. However, they did not burn the Anglican church.

http://www.skyweb.net/~channy/danraid.html


10 posted on 08/28/2010 8:04:54 AM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I suspect there is some anti-Beck bias here. Get over it, folks.


11 posted on 08/28/2010 8:06:29 AM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

The British burned entire cities, so yes, they certainly did burn churches.


14 posted on 08/28/2010 8:07:50 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

From what I’ve read, most atrocities against the colonists where perpetrated in what was then the west by the British indian allies, presumably with English approval.


15 posted on 08/28/2010 8:09:05 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Maybe the “Patriot” writers were reliving a Nazi church burning in France.
Beck should find of interest the treatment after the war of those who remained loyal to the British crown. Not everyone felt the revolution was the best thing to have take place.
16 posted on 08/28/2010 8:09:13 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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Those wily British. :')
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18 posted on 08/28/2010 8:10:35 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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Don’t think that war back then was genteel. The French and Indian War and Pontiac’s Rebellion, just before the Revolution, were insanely murderous affairs, with no quarter and butchery of the wounded, sometimes of women and children who were not enslaved. And many of the participants in the Revolution were veterans of those events.

Beck probably got his idea from the movie The Patriot, which depicted an occupied church being burned (itself based on a WWII event), but otherwise there is no documented Revolutionary War case of that. This is not to say that there weren’t plenty of other war crimes on both sides - mostly shooting of enemy soldiers who wanted to surrender.


19 posted on 08/28/2010 8:11:23 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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Found these two Churches.

A Dutch reformed Church was burned in the Battle of Bound Brook

http://www.njskylands.com/hsBoundBrook.htm

October 28 * British Major John Simcoe leads raid through Elizabethtown to Bound Brook burning the Dutch Reformed Church and Court House at Millstone (then called Somerset Court House), an unsuccessful attempt to draw the militia into an ambush.

Another Church on the same web site mentioned:
“James Buckmeter
16 Aug 2009, 19:10
My ancestor, Matthias Wade was in the Essex militia and participated in the battle of Springfield, one of the last revolutionary battles. One result of the battle was the burning of the church (Connecticut Farms) and the loss of church records, including Wade family history. There were apparently two Wade family members between Benjamin (the original Wade) and Matthias, but records for them are quite confusing since they apparently had the same names, married women with same names and had children with same names. Benjamin and Matthias are well documented though.
I learn a little more year to year. “

20 posted on 08/28/2010 8:13:02 AM PDT by FR_addict
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banastre_Tarleton

Education is your friend. The Wikipedia article has cited sources. Read them and then come back.


22 posted on 08/28/2010 8:13:47 AM PDT by Shanty Shaker
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A church in Midway, GA, was burned by the British. It’s mentioned on the Midway page of Wiki >>>

Established in 1752, the Midway Congregational Church building was destroyed during the Revolutionary War. British in the area burned it, but it was rebuilt.

There are numerous references to it elsewhere.

There’s this:
http://www.nyfreedom.com/trinitychurch.htm

and this:
http://www.discoversouthcarolina.com/products/3460.aspx

BTW, the colonists burned at least one Anglican church during the Revolution, and others were collateral damage as the British burned entire towns.

Long before the revolution, the British burned or destroyed many Catholic missions in Florida, including St. Augustine (1702).

Not an expert, but hope this helps.


23 posted on 08/28/2010 8:16:00 AM PDT by WestTexasWend
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I’m a historian of the period.
The British blaming church leaders for fomenting revolution is true.
The church burnings did happen, the most famous being during Simcoe’s 1779 raid on Bound (not Bround) Brook, NJ.
The claim that the British locked up Americans in the burning churches—that happened in the movie “The Patriot”, but I’m still trying to verify that.


25 posted on 08/28/2010 8:20:54 AM PDT by CivilWarguy
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To: the OlLine Rebel

read some history books, Benjamin Franklin’s book talks about this and worse!


33 posted on 08/28/2010 8:29:21 AM PDT by Jewels1091
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On CSPAN I just saw a guy in the crowd wearing a paper hat. You just know that the pic will be all over MSM claiming that Beck caters to people with paper hats.
35 posted on 08/28/2010 8:30:57 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: the OlLine Rebel

It is obvious that the British did not always fight like the gentlemen you have seen depicted in movies, but committed atrocities of what would now be considered war crimes. I suspect that if anyone other than Glenn Beck had mentioned this, it would have gone without comment.

So far, everything the left has objected to has not happened, and once again, Beck gets the last laugh. The mainstream media and the left have made fools of themselves, just as they did with the Shirley Sherrod incident. I find it amazing that such fear can be stirred by one man who has a genuine concern for the American spirit.


38 posted on 08/28/2010 8:35:45 AM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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