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To: Pilsner
Your premises on the other hand, run the gamut from uninformed to delusional.

Delusional and uniformed? That would be you. Here is an example how correct I am:


Obama Orders to Afganistan Top of article
Obama Orders to Afganistan1


First the war deployment orders come from Obama. You'll also notice that the Secretary of Defense takes that order from Obama (echoes it) by signing the war deployment orders as it says in the article. This same order goes all the way down the chain-of-command to deploy to the E-1 Army private that originally came from Obama.

194 posted on 09/02/2010 2:35:35 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel; Pilsner
Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates signed the orders today.

So the actual orders for the Marine and Army bridgades' deployment were signed by Secretary Gates. The article you referenced doesn't say whether or not Obama signed the orders. (It says he "ordered" the deployments.) Do we know if Obama actually signed the orders? I ask because ...

On May 8, Larry Johnson of No Quarter (formerly with the CIA and U.S. State Department) reported that Pentagon officials are forcing Obama to sign off on Top Secret capture/kill operations because they don't trust him. Not being a military history buff, I wonder if that has ever happened before now.

Under George W. Bush a number of Top Secret orders were signed that gave the military permission to do a variety of things. I can’t go into the specifics because it would compromise classified info. During Barack’s first year in office most of those authorities remained in place and, as I noted in previous postings, the number of capture/kill operations actually increased under Obama.

That was then. Two things have happened over the last five months. First, many of those original authorities have been rescinded. So our military forces will not be acting against targets that they had permission to hit even one year ago. Second, and more troubling, the military commanders are forcing Obama to sign off on every operation. Why?

They don’t trust him.

I was never able to confirm this information outside of Larry Johnson's report at NQ and FR doesn't allow posts from NQ, so I never posted the article here.

Regardless, Lakin's orders were presumed lawful. They came from his superior not directly from Obama.

210 posted on 09/02/2010 3:13:54 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Red Steel
Delusional and uniformed? That would be you. Here is an example how correct I am:(news story about Obama Admin sending troops to the 'stan.)

You forgot paranoid. Yes, if you think some court, or some law enforcement agency, or prosecutor, is going to remove BO from office, then, delusional and uninformed. Unless you are a DU Troll.

So where is you update on your groundless speculation that some executive branch law enforcement agency, or prosecutor is going to remove BO from office. Who are you referring to? CIA? FBI? Postal Inspectors? (They -- no kidding -- have a reputation for being a hard nosed bunch of guys.) National Park Police? Treasury Agents? Men in Black?


267 posted on 09/02/2010 8:00:01 PM PDT by Pilsner
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