Posted on 09/08/2010 7:29:42 AM PDT by DrewsMum
Bookmarked for posting some of these great responses to my FB.
some seem to think that Christians should be a bunch of soft weak cowards and always should turn the other cheek.
Aside from from necessity of saving our souls, why do you think Jesus was killed? The Sanhedrin felt that he was threat to their authority and took the issue to the Romans (who didn’t want any part of it...).
“So......why should Christians be involved in politics? And any reference to scripture is certainly welcome”
Christ seemed to advocate a separation of spiritual from secular when he said “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, Render to God the things that are God’s”.
Yet here is the dilemma for Christians who dwell in representative republics. The people collectively are Caesar and our government derives its power from the people. Christians are also the children of God and subject to his Lordship as well.
Therefore Christians are part of the people from which our government springs from and therefore we must be part of and play a part in the governance of the body politic; being subject also to God’s judgment for any part(good or evil) we play in the government or don’t play! The Bible says we are to be subject to and obey the laws of our Kings and officials, yet our system is set up so that all of us are responsible for the selections of the ruling officials. The people are the collective “king” of the land.(plural deliberately not used)
Therefore Christians must not and should not shrink back from adding their voices and perspectives to the selections of our Governments, even when it seems a majority has turned away from God at present. In the times past, God might hold a king responsible for the spiritual conduct of his lands, but in a representative republic, God holds us all responsible...for the people are the “king” here and government only rules by our consent.
George Washington said it was “Religion and Morality that were the twin props from which springs our liberty”. A like minded consensus of the moral will of the people would ensure the proper running of the constitution but sadly we have lost that consensus and God will surely judge us for turning our backs from him. It was a Christian consensus in this nation that was the aegis under which the forming of the Constitution occurred and it will take a restored Chrisitan consensus to restore its proper function. All the more reason for Chrisitians to stay involved in the body politic!
some seem to think Jesus was a pansy who would never fight and now think Christians should look the other way all the time and love everyone even if they are being hurt themselves.
Screw that I’m not going to turn no other cheek and I certainly will not love some sinners like some say .
Someone hurts me I hurt them none of this pansy playing around .
I remember some Christians were attacked off homosexuals in san fran last year and instead of pressing charges or fighting back they said they still love them.
Screw that ,
I have the same problem, Drew’s mom. It’s nuts. Jesus had quite a bit to say about the leaders of the day - he was quite vehement about their mistreatment of people!
Christians are to stand against evil - things like theft and oppression. If they don’t think this government is doing both, they are not paying attention.
The biggest reason that I speak out against Obama and his regime is that they would like nothing more than to replace God in people’s lives. They are like the modern day builders of the Tower of Babel. They would love you to look to them for your sustenance and happiness rather than to God.
I am reading a history of socialism and early on the indoctrination is that government comes before relgion.
I am not saying that I believe people should be forced to worship God, I am saying they should be free to serve God if they choose, and NOT to serve government.
As an American, you have that right.
This is more like proving a negative. There are no reasons why a Christian should NOT be involved.
First of all, most every Old Testament prophet (Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel and most of the 12 minor prophets) were actively engaged in calling their nations back to the LORD. Of course, they lived in a failing theocracy at the time, so there was not as clear of a distinction between the temple and the government.
We do not live in a theocracy, but like every citizen of the US, Christians enjoy the right to practice their own religions. The First Amendment gives us more than the rights to our personal beliefs; we are guaranteed the right to EXERCISE those beliefs without government interference. Note, the First Amendment ties the government’s hands, not the hands of the Christian citizen. The first Amendment reads, in pertinent part: “”Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...” Part of freely exercising our religion is using our personal faith to guide our political activity.
The LORD’s constant warning through his prophets was that if His people did not obey Him, they would become slaves of someone else. The reason these Biblical prophets were placed in the Bible are because all their prophecies came about, except those which remain in our future. As engaged Christian citizens, we too need to heed the danger of turning against the LORD as a country. Like Israel, we too can, and are, losing our freedom. Ironically, the Babylonian empire (which includes present day Iraq and Iran) were the ones who eventually finished off Israel. We’re still battling this same enemy today.
Well, if we tell you, then everyone will know.
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It's an acronym for IN BEFORE THE ZOT.
Apparently, someone thought you might be a troll, and your post would need to be ZOTTED. (Removed by the FR staff)
ZOTTING is accompanied by the VIKING KITTIES. ( you might want to look into joining them)
First though, we gotta figure out why your THREADS keep getting removed, and you keep getting mistaken for a troll.
First lesson is, this is a VANITY POST, and you should add (VANITY) to the end of the TITLE.
That helps viewers orient themselves before reading the posted article.
Second, posting a Vanity thread is like sticking your hand in a live beehive to get some honey. You are going to get some negative reactions from the 'hive'.
There is nothing in The Bible(Old or New Testament) which prevents us from participating in politics.
Only politicians can come up with ridiculous reasons for persons of faith to stay out of politics. They don't want to face any opposition from those who have valid positions on the issues facing everyone in this or any election.
Don't worry, I got your back. :)
I won't let them Z you.
yes, that’s where I get a lot of grief, is my Facebook page....
I made a comment about obama’s “they talk about me like a dog” comment....is said something to the effect of him being neutered like one or some such...I did not call him a dog, I despise name calling....and here was one response that I got....
“You are a disgrace to Christianity, you should wash your mouth... It is expressions that are canned on your face and blazoned on your written comments that disgust me. Hypocrites disguise themselves and say they area Christians, yet they stoop so low as to name call. If God intended for the people like you of this world to name his creation, he would have created the likes of you millenniums ago! Instead he Created a man (you obviously rule your husband, you do not know your role; if he was your head, he would not allow you to disgrace him and his children on FB with your rants). I bet you whine too like the nag in Proverbs. Drip, continual drip). But God gave the name of creatures to Adam and canines are not homo sapiens.”
That was the response from a “Christian” hahahaha
Bravo Shark!
Some people just live to find anything to get offended about.
“Render unto Ceasar that which is Ceasar. Render unto God that which is God’s.” Well, since we have a Representative Republic, you have every right to. I myself am running for Ward councilor next year.
Also, Jesus had very strong words for the Pharisees in Matthew 3:7, and Matthew 22-23. He didn’t mince words.
Abortion is murder ... not love.
Homosexuality is deviate behavior, and God says it is an abomination!
We are to pray for our enemies ... it is as heaping burning coals on their head (scriptural)
Churches have fallen away and do not even mention ... SIN! God clearly calls many of men's behaviors SINS! Jesus as well.
We are to teach our children as we go about our day, as we walk by the wayside, as we sit at the table, before we go to bed at night. How many follow this command?
Left to himself ... man does what is right in his own eyes ... we can see the results of that all around us everywhere.
Jesus was hated (his words) and we will be hated as well. So buck up and know that is how it is.
and so on ... look in God's Word anywhere ... it is filled with examples both evil and good, JOB, or Isaiah, or Elijah, for example.
And that's a tightrope few manage to cross.
“Christ seemed to advocate a separation of spiritual from secular when he said “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, Render to God the things that are God’s”.”
In one of our Bible studies, we saw a slide of a coin from that era. The inscription said something to the effect: “Caesar, son of god and god.” In effect, the coin claimed Caesar was a god. When Jesus said, “Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s and render unto God that which is God’s,” he was in effect saying Caesar was not god!
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