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Generation Y Giving Cars a Pass
Yahoo ^ | 9-21-2010 | Jim Ostroff

Posted on 09/21/2010 8:39:16 AM PDT by Gordon Pym

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To: RFEngineer

Heh, I’ve already been warned by one former BMW-driving, now minivan-driving colleague about that...


41 posted on 09/21/2010 10:48:29 AM PDT by nostrum09
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To: DonaldC

Wow, great attitude. With friends like you, who needs enemies?


42 posted on 09/21/2010 12:10:48 PM PDT by BenKenobi ("Henceforth I will call nothing else fair unless it be her gift to me")
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To: Gaffer

Well heavens, that wouldn’t be because their father never taught them any of it?

If you want kids to exhibit these behaviours you have to teach them. I am slowly learning, but no thanks to my dad, who preferred not teaching me anything about cars or mechanics.


43 posted on 09/21/2010 12:13:27 PM PDT by BenKenobi ("Henceforth I will call nothing else fair unless it be her gift to me")
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To: Melas
Can't in the case I applied it meant "doesn't know how", not knows-how and chooses not to. If you don't know 'how' then you missed a few things in life.
44 posted on 09/21/2010 2:03:22 PM PDT by Gaffer ("Profiling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: BenKenobi

My dad was the same way, but I learned whatever I didn’t know and wanted to know by myself, or better yet - asked someone. There is a difference between wanting to know and not caring. With the web today, there isn’t an excuse for not having resources for virtually any maintenance issues.


45 posted on 09/21/2010 2:06:33 PM PDT by Gaffer ("Profiling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: xp38

If you buy this, you’d need to be prepared to get taken on virtually every common service maintenance cost there is. Probably just like BMW where they, for example, charged about $125 to change a front left turn bulb on my wife’s X3/X5 (whatever that damned money pit is)..... You actually had to take the whole headlight assembly out of the vehicle to change a $1 bulb.


46 posted on 09/21/2010 2:09:59 PM PDT by Gaffer ("Profiling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: libertarian27
Much of what you say is true, but you should, for instance, know a few basic facts....one case in point...most people today when buying tires also get alignments. The sales people try to add all the trimmings: valve stems, lifetime balancing, blah-blah-blah......4 wheel thrust alignment, etc....

I had my truck in for tires and he got to alignment and said you need 4 wheel thrust alignment....I asked him how exactly they were going to align the rear wheels of a truck with rear-wheel drive and a differential/axle, etc? No reply.....the difference in cost was $30.....

47 posted on 09/21/2010 2:14:21 PM PDT by Gaffer ("Profiling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: Gordon Pym

I wonder how many are the “failure to launch” group, of course they’re not buying cars, they’re using mom and dad’s to do whatever it is they do that’s not work.


48 posted on 09/21/2010 2:16:45 PM PDT by discostu (Keyser Soze lives)
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To: Gaffer

It’s one thing when some young people criticise other young people for not knowing something they tried to learn themselves.

It’s quite another for older folks to criticise young people when they dropped the ball teaching us. If kids in general aren’t learning it, chances are their parents aren’t teaching them.


49 posted on 09/21/2010 2:23:26 PM PDT by BenKenobi ("Henceforth I will call nothing else fair unless it be her gift to me")
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To: BenKenobi
I wasn't taught by my father but I made damned sure that each time my daughter has a problem at home and can't afford whatever repair, etc. I actually fix it and show her how to do it if she is able. An example is relighting the pilot light on a water heater in her garage where the pilot light occasionally gets blown out by the wind when she leaves the garage door open.

I'm not specifically criticizing young people per se here. It goes for everyone that can still move around by themselves.... willful ignorance is not generational.

50 posted on 09/21/2010 2:28:07 PM PDT by Gaffer ("Profiling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: Gaffer

Manual labor is overrated. One of the reasons I went to college to get a job that paid well is so I could afford to pay people to do the crap I don’t want to. If I had to I could do basic car and home repairs, not well but they’d work. But I don’t want to, and I’ve got the money to not have to. If you like it great, but that’s you, my refusal doesn’t make me helpless, it just cuts down on my callouses and frees up my weekends for things I find fun.


51 posted on 09/21/2010 2:28:53 PM PDT by discostu (Keyser Soze lives)
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To: discostu
I also went to college and make three times my age. It still isn't an excuse that I can readily afford to have ALL my repair and maintenance issues done by someone else. I mainly made sure that I can, if I need to.....an example is losing an igniter element on the heater in the middle of winter and not being able to get someone to come out until Monday or Wednesday - whatever....
52 posted on 09/21/2010 2:32:55 PM PDT by Gaffer ("Profiling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: Gaffer

If my water heater died and it couldn’t be repaired for a couple of days I’d go use the the shower at the gym, where I’m already planning on being most of those days anyway. See there’s almost always a way to handle things that doesn’t involve the unpleasantness of scraping my knuckles. And, most importantly, it doesn’t mean I have no alternative but to depend on the government like you falsely accused, it means I have a different set of survival skills. It all really boils down to what’s important to you, I’ve never enjoyed fixing things, it’s dirty, unpleasant and almost always painful. So it’s a skill I never developed, because only an insane person practices doing things they hate, but anybody that thinks that makes me helpless is just plain stupid. In the software world we call them workarounds, it’s a way to handle an issue until somebody gets over to fix it.


53 posted on 09/21/2010 2:42:48 PM PDT by discostu (Keyser Soze lives)
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To: discostu

You got some real issues about self reliance and dependence...good luck with that.


54 posted on 09/21/2010 2:45:34 PM PDT by Gaffer ("Profiling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: Gaffer

Wrong again. I’m 100% self reliant and independent. Your problem is you think you’re way is the only way, out here in reality you’re way is the hard way. In your water heater example both of our solutions result in us being properly showered, only my solution doesn’t involve me cracking my knuckles, or sucking a bunch of dust up my sinuses, and yeah it might cost me a couple more bucks but it’s darned well worth it.


55 posted on 09/21/2010 2:49:01 PM PDT by discostu (Keyser Soze lives)
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To: discostu

Okay....take a lithium....The WH example was just that - an example. I don’t care how you survive, frankly....


56 posted on 09/21/2010 2:51:01 PM PDT by Gaffer ("Profiling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: Gaffer

I don’t need a lithium, you’re the one who threw the blanket insult, and the one that seems to have a problem with people having other solutions to life’s little problems than you. I’m just pointing out that there ARE other solutions to life’s little problems than you, and that just because people don’t change their own oil doesn’t make them dependent on government.


57 posted on 09/21/2010 2:58:25 PM PDT by discostu (Keyser Soze lives)
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To: Gaffer

Interesting. I wish my dad was more like you. Still so many things I have to learn.


58 posted on 09/21/2010 3:29:10 PM PDT by BenKenobi ("Henceforth I will call nothing else fair unless it be her gift to me")
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To: Gaffer

I’ll freely admit that I couldn’t go out into my garage with power tools and build a board.


59 posted on 09/21/2010 5:07:08 PM PDT by Melas
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To: nostrum09

I’ll let you know if the passion for gaming fades. As for now, I’m counting the days until Black Ops comes out.


60 posted on 09/21/2010 5:11:27 PM PDT by Melas
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