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Shocking revelation: Former Air Force personnel disclose UFO, alien-related threats
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Posted on 09/27/2010 1:34:18 PM PDT by marbren

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To: relictele
This is a good item to suggest making a donation to the Randi Foundation and others who actively debunk this sort of thing.

Wrong sort of thing.
141 posted on 09/28/2010 8:07:51 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan; marbren

INDEED.

It’s going to be interesting to see who the diehard

naysayers/government shills hereon will turn out to be after this conference.


142 posted on 09/28/2010 8:10:02 AM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: marbren; Quix

Thx!


143 posted on 09/28/2010 8:20:12 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Is Obama the Twelfth Imam? Farrakhan thinks he is!)
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To: marbren

It will also be interesting to see if there are any apologies forthcoming. I’m not holding my breath. LOL.


144 posted on 09/28/2010 8:24:51 AM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: marbren

IF

you have the time and care to bother . . .

it would be great to link the other recent threads on this topic to this one.

I won’t be able to get to it for some time.


145 posted on 09/28/2010 8:36:55 AM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: SonOfDarkSkies; marbren

IF YOU OR ANYONE

cares to jot down some key sentences from the videos and post them,

that would be great, too.


146 posted on 09/28/2010 8:38:32 AM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: Quix
I didn't make notes, but I have previously seen all Charles Halt interviews, read his statements, and, of course, read his original memo. I would have to say that in this press conference, he significantly expanded the RAF Bentwaters/Woodbridge file.

For example, previously IIRC there was no mention of 1' diameter lights scanning him and his men from an overhead craft and there was no mention of the towers seeing UFO's both visually and on radar.

I will go back through the long tape and make notes when I get some time.

IMO, this press conference was the smoking gun of eyewitness accounts of "first" and "second kind" encounters.

147 posted on 09/28/2010 9:10:20 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Is Obama the Twelfth Imam? Farrakhan thinks he is!)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

I AGREE ENTIRELY.

THX THX.


148 posted on 09/28/2010 9:19:35 AM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: Quix; Global2010

here are two good links for the

Naional Press Club Conference yesterday in D.C. about our nuke missiles and UFO interventions etc. with senior military officers testifying:

CNN VERSION:

http://blip.tv/file/4172861

ANOTHER LINK:

http://www.necn.com/09/27/10/Shocking-revelation-Former-Air-Force-per/landing.html?blockID=319245&feedID=4213


149 posted on 09/28/2010 9:30:14 AM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: Quix
It is interesting to see in this Press Club conference on UFO's how the human capacity for denial of frightening or inconvenient facts completely overwhelms good judgment...even when the security of the nation is (or may be) at risk.

This capacity for denial was brought home to me just this week, when, doing research for a work of fiction obliquely involving the subject of nephilim and fallen angels, I was reminded how Orthodox Jewish scholars and many Christian theologians all the way back to St. Augustine and John Chrysostom teach (against Scripture) that the giants were human (sons of Seth) and not hybrids.

Jewish Orthodox Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai (Israel 70 BC) went to far as pronounce a curse on anyone teaching the fallen angel idea. Rashi (Rabbi Shlomo Yitzhaki - 1040-1105) and Nachmanides (Rabbi Moses ben Nachman Girondi, 1194 – 1270 ) both went along with this premise (not sure about what they think of the curse).

I don't think I have time at present, but I am curious to find out how Nachmanides incorporates I Enoch into his thinking and life's work. If a person accepts I Enoch as part of God's word, that person cannot deny the Nephilim/Fallen Angel position. The fact that I Enoch was part of the Dead Sea Scrolls must have thrown present day "Sons of Seth" adherents for a loop.;-)

As an aside, I have been reading Onkelos on the Torah: Understanding the Bible Text: Genesis by Israel Drazin, Stanley M. Wagner to help in my research...very interesting book for understanding what the Bible and Biblical scholars say about the report of the spies sent out by Moses when the Promised Land was reached (the spies who reported that they encountered giants, "Sons of Anak")!

150 posted on 09/28/2010 11:13:10 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Is Obama the Twelfth Imam? Farrakhan thinks he is!)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies; Alamo-Girl

INDEED.

If you haven’t watched the DVD’s available from Guy Malone’s site at

HTTP://WWW.ANCIENTOFDAYS.NET

I think you need to for your research. Might save you a lot of digging. They’ve done it extensively.

And our own Alamo-Girl; is somewhat of an expert on Enoch


151 posted on 09/28/2010 11:55:54 AM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: SaraJohnson; marbren; SonOfDarkSkies

And now on YOUTUBE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7w_FOVbCBc


152 posted on 09/28/2010 12:19:08 PM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: Quix

Thank you for your encouragements, dear brother in Christ!


153 posted on 09/28/2010 12:26:41 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

And you for yours, Dear Sister in Christ.


154 posted on 09/28/2010 12:31:12 PM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: Quix
I am still interested--as mentioned previously--to see if I can find any defensible logic as to why and how early Church fathers and great and early Torah scholars dismissed Enoch so passionately. As far as I can tell, they all twist themselves into pretzels to avoid the fallen angel intermingle concept. Do you think Alamo-Girl would have any knowledge of that subject?

That said, my primary goal at present is to determine...

Also, thx for the suggestion about Guy Malone!

155 posted on 09/28/2010 12:50:12 PM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Is Obama the Twelfth Imam? Farrakhan thinks he is!)
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To: Alamo-Girl; Quix
Alamo-Girl, I should have included you as an addressee in post #155.

Any thoughts?

Thx in advance for any direction you might provide.

156 posted on 09/28/2010 12:52:20 PM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Is Obama the Twelfth Imam? Farrakhan thinks he is!)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies; Alamo-Girl

Angel-Gal might well have some input on that. She’s studied a lot of that ilk of thing.

But best ask her!

Guy Malone is the real deal. Authentic Christian, fun, zaney, decent bloke, solid researcher.


To: Quix
I am still interested—as mentioned previously—to see if I can find any defensible logic as to why and how early Church fathers and great and early Torah scholars dismissed Enoch so passionately. As far as I can tell, they all twist themselves into pretzels to avoid the fallen angel intermingle concept. Do you think Alamo-Girl would have any knowledge of that subject?
That said, my primary goal at present is to determine...

(1) how are the post-Flood giant bloodlines connected to the antediluvian ones (i.e. through the wives of Noah’s sons OR did someone actually survive the Flood OR other?).

(2) what if any archaeological evidence exists that can be traced to the post-Flood giant tribes,

(3) what are the written languages of the post Flood giant tribes in the mid-2nd millennium BC (one of the many cuneiform dialects or possibly even hieroglyphics in the case of the Amalekites who lived on the Sinai Peninsula in the time of Moses?).

Also, thx for the suggestion about Guy Malone!


157 posted on 09/28/2010 12:53:46 PM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Here’s my ignorant off the cuff responses to the following:


(1) how are the post-Flood giant bloodlines connected to the antediluvian ones (i.e. through the wives of Noah’s sons OR did someone actually survive the Flood OR other?).

QX I do not think/believe any of those running around on the surface interacting with humans survived the flood. IF they did, they must have been in sealed suberranian or subsea havens.

It has been stated that Noah’s purity of DNA was one of the criteria involved in his selection etc.

(2) what if any archaeological evidence exists that can be traced to the post-Flood giant tribes,

There’s LOTS of archeological evidence in California, China, Balkans etc. re giants 15 feet tall etc. You can track down their skeleton pics via dogpile.com.

Search for

GIANTS + SKELETONS + PICS

or some such

(3) what are the written languages of the post Flood giant tribes in the mid-2nd millennium BC (one of the many cuneiform dialects or possibly even hieroglyphics in the case of the Amalekites who lived on the Sinai Peninsula in the time of Moses?).

I don’t have any hint of anything in my noggin in those directions. Sorry.


158 posted on 09/28/2010 1:01:08 PM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: Quix
On (1), I tend to agree with you...unless there is something that falls under "other." Of all I have read, you are only the second person who has mentioned the subterranean possibility. Interesting...and good creative thinking!:-)

Considering that caves were common dwellings at that time anyway, one with a very large air pocket (it would need a large supply of oxygen) might have been easily used by some or many enterprising fallen offspring.

As to (2), I should have been clearer. I mean archaeological evidence traceable to those giant tribes in ancient post-Flood Israel.

159 posted on 09/28/2010 1:25:45 PM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Is Obama the Twelfth Imam? Farrakhan thinks he is!)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

I was pondering . . .

Evidently there was some at least resurfacing . . . in some sense . . .

Goliath was after the flood!

Whether the critters descended to earth again to pollute the bloodlines . . . or what . . .


160 posted on 09/28/2010 1:34:27 PM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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