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1 posted on 11/03/2010 12:07:53 PM PDT by HarleyD
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I don’t know the answer, but thats a great point. The gains for the Republicans are not going unnoticed by the Democrats in red/reddish states. I think we may have wrested more power away from the Democrats than we think.


2 posted on 11/03/2010 12:10:21 PM PDT by Paradox (Democrats new Motto: Vini, Vidi, Lewinski!)
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>>In other words, I think that he is more likely to cross over with the Republicans to get things done.

Here we go again... the MYTH of the moderate Dhimmicrat. I’ve lost track of the number of times that’s been debunked...


3 posted on 11/03/2010 12:11:11 PM PDT by vikingd00d (chown -R us ./base)
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To: HarleyD
They will of course need a mascot:


4 posted on 11/03/2010 12:11:57 PM PDT by Slyfox
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There are something like 22 Dem Senate seats up for reelection in 2012. 10 Republican. They had better vote with and for the good of the people during the next 2 years.


5 posted on 11/03/2010 12:12:08 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1010/44289.html

Analysis of 2012 here. Things look GREAT for us in 2k12. I bet we can get a lot of these endangered dems to caucus with us.


6 posted on 11/03/2010 12:12:39 PM PDT by Vasilli22
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HarleyD,
I thought it funny that folks worried about the lame duck congressional secssion.
You think the dems will allow themselves to be herded after this?
Ain’t gonna hapen.
There will be loads lining up to do damage to obammy, not help him at this point.
2012 is right around the corner and the dems and RINO’s are ALL nervous at this point.


7 posted on 11/03/2010 12:14:28 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Less gubmint is best gubmint.)
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I think this is an excellent point you are making, because I watched the speech last night also.

But, to be quite honest, I think he is going to goose step behind Harry Reid and the others right off the cliff.

I think the only GOP policies he will go along with are domestic energy development, which is good, but he will probably sell his soul for West Virginia pork just like Bob Byrd.


8 posted on 11/03/2010 12:16:08 PM PDT by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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Manchin’s positions are entirely antagonistic with rank and file Washington Democrats. He reminds me of Sen Richard Shelby of Alabama who won as a Dem in 1994, switched GOP and has been a party stalwart since then. He can switch with very little political risk since WV is highly anti-Obozo.


9 posted on 11/03/2010 12:17:30 PM PDT by DarthVader (Nov 2 2010: That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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Incumbent fear of conservatives is the big story.
That’s why the media won’t mention it.

Can’t help you though, Jim Webb is the one I know of and you already know he has an impossible role to play.


10 posted on 11/03/2010 12:19:28 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: HarleyD

Interesting point.

But they should do the right thing and cross over openly (way prior to the next election), and cross over to a clearly defined position.

We have seen things like Republicans jumping ship when they lose a primary or changing parties at the last minute and then sabotaging the legitimate GOP candidate, and while it may be a strategy, it’s ugly and we shouldn’t encourage GOPers to do it just because the Dems have done it.

The other thing that we need is clearly defined positions. Once we went to the “Big Tent” model, we stopped defining GOP positions on anything. Even when we had them, nobody expected a candidate to abide by them. And that has got to stop.

So if they want to jump, that’s fine. But they should be fair to their party and announce it well in advance. Also, there has got to be something they are jumping to and they have responsibilities once they jump there.


14 posted on 11/03/2010 12:43:55 PM PDT by livius
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