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Chinese workers build 15-story hotel in just six days
Yahoo! News ^ | November 12, 2010 | Brett Michael Dykes

Posted on 11/12/2010 1:01:04 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder

As the United States and China battle over the finer points of currency manipulation at the G-20 summit, American negotiators may want to take note of this startling testimonial to the productivity of Chinese workers: A construction crew in the south-central Chinese city of Changsha has completed a 15-story hotel in just six days. If nothing else, this remarkable achievement will stoke further complaints from American economic pundits that China's economy is far more accomplished than ours in tending to such basics as construction.

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To: Gaffer

From other photographs, you can see that they pulled up some pretty deep pilings, though, clearly, not enough and not deep enough. I knew a guy who was working construction of the first “skyscraper” in Cheasepeake, VA. The soil there is quite soft. They had to drive in a big number of piles until the strike of the hammer resulted in less than some specified motion, which I forget. The site was directly opposite town hall, and the mayor had done something to piss him off, so he always made sure to drive as many strikes as possible when the mayor was in the building.

The building in the photograph was build on soft soil and apparently building inspectors had been paid off, because the pilings were nowhere within shouting distance of local code. One side of the building quickly settled a lot faster than the other (what’s Chinese for “Oh shit!”) and, as they say in Shanghai, disaster ensued.


41 posted on 11/12/2010 1:40:29 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Go Packers!)
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To: Nervous Tick

One of the liberty ships took four days to build from keel laid to launch. Think we could do that today?


42 posted on 11/12/2010 1:43:47 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: cpprfld

>>Yet it has taken the United States, 9 years and counting to build something at ground zero.<<

Actually, that is incorrect. It is missing two words, and in that word is the MAIN problem in the US.

Here it is, with the needed words:

Yet it has taken the United States, 9 years and counting to START TO build something at ground zero.


43 posted on 11/12/2010 1:43:47 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: dirtboy

It’s actually quite impressive and “level 9 earthquake resistant” whatever that means. I would like to know if they used Chinese drywall.


44 posted on 11/12/2010 1:47:18 PM PST by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
It’s actually quite impressive and “level 9 earthquake resistant” whatever that means. I would like to know if they used Chinese drywall.

Level 9 means the 15 stories will only pancake down to 9 stories after the quake.
45 posted on 11/12/2010 1:48:53 PM PST by aruanan
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
If you take a closer look what you call pilings, even though appearing to be solid are not longer than 6 feet or so. Either that or every one of them snapped at that length or they just gave up and didn't drive far enough - not even close!.

One or two of the tubes protruding are hollow. Pilings usually are much longer, to bedrock if there is bedrock...I wouldn't call these pilings by any stretch of the imagination.

46 posted on 11/12/2010 1:53:34 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Time release movie - amazing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps0DSihggio&feature=player_embedded


47 posted on 11/12/2010 1:55:38 PM PST by frithguild (The Democrat Party Brand - Big Government protecting Entrenched Interests from Competition)
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To: Gaffer

The whole thing with pilings is that they are driven deep enough that the friction exerted on all surfaces is greater than the load that they support, if there is no bedrock. The float in the substrate and you better hope you dont get much water on them if they are wood.


48 posted on 11/12/2010 2:00:18 PM PST by frithguild (The Democrat Party Brand - Big Government protecting Entrenched Interests from Competition)
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To: Gaffer

What’s the deal with that building anyway? Built on land fill or something? Piers don’t seem to have done the trick.


49 posted on 11/12/2010 2:12:17 PM PST by smokingfrog (Because you don't live near a bakery doesn't mean you have to go without cheesecake.)
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To: Gaffer

They may have driven a tube down and back filled it with concrete. Whatever they did, I won’t copy them. There was a thread on the building at the time. The builder bypassed local code, bribed the inspectors. IIRC, the building collapsed before it was even finished. The Chinese are inveterate gamblers, the builder was probably cutting corners for decades. I think he may have a found a limit.


50 posted on 11/12/2010 2:29:19 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Go Packers!)
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To: Question Liberal Authority

Local zoning boards, hysterical commissions, planning agencies, permits, licenses, fees, reviews...........

In Massachusetts a couple of years on a nothing project, with no sure outcome/approval, is common.


51 posted on 11/12/2010 2:37:12 PM PST by Leisler (They always lie, so much and for so long, that they no longer know what about.)
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To: frithguild

Webber Falls bridge on I40 in OK took only two months to rebuild. 600 illegals and chem-crete...

This was right after 9-11 when the bridge was hit by a drunk barge captain...

Kidding about the 600 illegals, but the chem-crete mix played a BIG part..

Its a heapum-big bridge...


52 posted on 11/12/2010 2:50:48 PM PST by waterhill (I have never met an E.T. that I could not shoot)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

That picture is of Riverside Lotus in Minhang, Shanghai. I lived one block away from this location. (See the pink building in the background on the right? Other side of that residential development.)

It’s a residential complex, one building of several. As a rule urban Chinese don’t buy houses they buy apartments.

I was woken up by the sound of it falling over. It sounded more like a long roll of thunder- there had been thunderstorms through the night but this went on way too long which is what caught my ear.

It’s entirely possible that this hotel was built properly in just 6 days. It’s NOT possible that it was built in 6 days using Chinese construction managers, and quite likely that plenty of the actual construction crew was not mainland Chinese.


53 posted on 11/12/2010 5:51:35 PM PST by CalvinCalvin
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To: smokingfrog

The deal with the building in the picture above is (among other things):
-They had permission to put up n buildings of m floors on the site, and they actually built n+x buildings of m+y floors on the site.

-Between the time they started the project in late 2006 and when the building fell over car ownership in the area grew at an amazing rate. The peeps in charged realized that more cars = more demand for parking spaces, so why not add parking spaces that could be sold off to meet the demand? They started construction of the underground parking lot AFTER the buildings on top were finished. The dirt was piled “high-side” on the south side of the site.

-This construction site is bordered by a canal to the north. The day before the collapse a barge had crashed into a retaining wall causing soil to “low-side” out into the water.

IIRC a couple of the guys running the company behind this mess got life sentences in prison, which is proof that China actually does some things right. I’d had words with one of them over a separate business transaction and right off I could tell he was as honest as the Pope is Muslim.

Back on topic, as I said above it’s quite possible the hotel was built properly and according to code in under a week. But no way was it done without foreigners having a significant role.


54 posted on 11/12/2010 7:37:30 PM PST by CalvinCalvin
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To: Ditter

Stayed in an Amish place in Western Maryland once, when an unexpected snowstorm came up while I was on the road. Very peaceful, actually.


55 posted on 11/12/2010 7:52:41 PM PST by aposiopetic
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To: aposiopetic

I’ll bet it was peaceful, no phone, no TV, no electric light to read by. How about the plumbing, indoors or out? :)


56 posted on 11/12/2010 8:01:04 PM PST by Ditter (/)
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To: Ditter
Excellent question. Indoor for sure. The whole place was clean as a whistle.

Now that the memory has kicked into gear, I recall they may even have thrown in a stout breakfast to make sure you didn't get hungry on the road. :)

57 posted on 11/12/2010 8:22:19 PM PST by aposiopetic
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