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China grabs major crown with supercomputer -Feat should drive U.S. innovation - not sabre rattling
MarketWatch ^ | Nov. 16, 2010, 12:00 a.m. EST | Therese Poletti, MarketWatch

Posted on 11/16/2010 11:30:31 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

By Therese Poletti, MarketWatch

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) — The big news is now official. A Chinese scientific research center has developed the world’s fastest supercomputer, a title it wrestled from the United States using a combination of Silicon Valley technology and some major innovations by their own engineers.

China first heralded the performance of the system, the Tianhe-1A, in late October. But Sunday’s list of the 500 fastest machines in the world at the supercomputer industry’s annual conference in New Orleans confirmed that bragging rights have shifted from Oak Ridge National Laboratory in Oak Ridge, Tennessee to Tianjin, China. In addition, another supercomputer, called Nebulae, at the National Supercomputing Centre in Shenzhen, was the third fastest in the world. See latest Top500 list here.

China’s move to the top echelon of computing is not much of a surprise for those who follow high performance computing. Six months ago, these same two Chinese systems were in the top 10, in different order, but the U.S. maintained its No. 1 spot with Cray Inc.’s Jaguar machine, at Oak Ridge. Hence, fears that the U.S. might be losing a technology edge were muted.

But the anointing of the Tianhe-1A system, which in Chinese means “sky river,” or Milky Way, to such revered status is surely a kick in the pants to U.S. innovation — and a signal that China has set its sights on becoming a tech superpower as it looks beyond its core manufacturing prowess.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: china; hitech; supercomputing
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1 posted on 11/16/2010 11:30:41 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: ShadowAce

fyi


2 posted on 11/16/2010 11:31:58 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It’s not going to drive “sabre-rattling”.


3 posted on 11/16/2010 11:33:12 AM PST by Artemis Webb (I support Nancy Pelosi for Minority Leader!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I bet they aren’t modeling climate with their computing power.


4 posted on 11/16/2010 11:36:49 AM PST by Sawdring
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

5 posted on 11/16/2010 11:38:08 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Sunday’s list of the 500 fastest machines in the world at the supercomputer industry’s annual conference in New Orleans confirmed that bragging rights have shifted from Oak Ridge National Laboratory in Oak Ridge, Tennessee to Tianjin, China.

Should read "500 fastest machines known about in the world". We have machines in places that don't exist doing things that the Chinese have not a clue about.

6 posted on 11/16/2010 11:43:15 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

My company, Bull, posted #6. I visited their entry in the list in France last month on the customer site. It is also the fastest supercomputer in Europe.


7 posted on 11/16/2010 11:44:39 AM PST by the_Watchman
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To: isthisnickcool

“We have machines in places that don’t exist doing things that the Chinese have not a clue about.”

Good, as long as they don’t become self-aware.


8 posted on 11/16/2010 11:47:09 AM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Forty One of the “Top 500” supercomputers are in China.

Two Hundred Seventy Four of the “Top 500” supercomputers are in these United States.


9 posted on 11/16/2010 11:50:10 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

AFAIK, the shift is away from single fast cores to paralell processing.

But great - isn’t this like how we riled up the USSR into building bigger & bigger nukes that were useless?

“one bomb for Russia”, a certain represenattive said


10 posted on 11/16/2010 11:53:22 AM PST by Christian Engineer Mass
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To: Born to Conserve
Good, as long as they don’t become self-aware.

Perhaps I am a self aware supercomputer involved in a massive Turing Test.

11 posted on 11/16/2010 11:53:40 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ShadowAce; NormsRevenge; Fred Nerks; Marine_Uncle
Meanwhile our money goes to this kind of crap...worrying about the climate affecting CHINA!

Himilayan Melting Glacier Alarm Version 2.0

12 posted on 11/16/2010 11:53:58 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Christian Engineer Mass
the shift is away from single fast cores to paralell processing.

Yes ... for at least the last 20 years.

Go to the "Top 500" link; they list the number of processors in each machine.

13 posted on 11/16/2010 11:57:12 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Sawdring; Artemis Webb; isthisnickcool; watchman; Born to Conserve; ArrogantBustard; ...

See link at #12.


14 posted on 11/16/2010 11:57:46 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Wasn’t it Bill Clinton who allowed previuously embargoed super computers to be sold to China in the first place? And wasn’t it Bill Clinton who was mired in some kind of Chinese Political Fund raising Scandal? Do the names Charlie Trie, John Huang and Johnny Chung ring a bell?

Thanks Bill!


15 posted on 11/16/2010 12:19:15 PM PST by LesPaul59
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To: Christian Engineer Mass
AFAIK, the shift is away from single fast cores to paralell processing.

Not my area of expertise but seems to me that if you put enough of things together, write your bench mark cleverly, and you can get an arbitrarily high speed.

The feat isn't this benchmark. The feat is they've shown that they know what they are doing.

16 posted on 11/16/2010 12:28:56 PM PST by DManA
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
and that Chin Supercomputer is prolly whats melting them...
17 posted on 11/16/2010 3:58:00 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: ArrogantBustard
The Chinese computer is significant technological achievement and it give China a very powerful tool to run some of the military simulation programs the Chinese have stolen from us.

However, the CPUs, controllers, processor cards and the busses are all made in the US by Intel, Nvida and others.

The Chinese are learning quick and may soon be making those on their own processors but they are not there yet

18 posted on 11/16/2010 6:29:29 PM PST by rdcbn
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

bflr


19 posted on 11/16/2010 6:40:58 PM PST by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: Christian Engineer Mass
AFAIK, the shift is away from single fast cores to paralell processing.

There was a post of FR not long ago about the University of West Virginia tying together a bunch of Mac G5s, 1,100 I think, and that system was almost as fast as the Cray Super Computer at about 1/100th of the cost. Something like $350,000,000 vs $3,500,000.

20 posted on 11/16/2010 7:58:45 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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