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Kobe Bryant's Turkish Airlines Endorsement Angers Armenians
MyFoxLA ^ | Dec. 16, 2010 | Rick Lozano

Posted on 12/16/2010 4:03:56 PM PST by La Enchiladita

Armenian Americans -- many right here in the Los Angeles area -- are calling Kobe Bryant's endorsement deal with Turkish Airlines "Kobe's direct flight to inhumanity."

The Armenian Youth Federation says it's considering protests at Staples Center if Bryant doesn't back down or at least issue some type of statement recognizing the Armenian Genocide, when approximately 1.5 million Armenians in the Ottoman Empire were killed.

Bryant has talked about the endorsement deal, telling CNBC, "I've never been to Turkey, but all the guys on the team who have been keep saying (that) it's one of the hottest places to go. This is another deal for me that proves that we're global, and it obviously makes sense with them starting flights in LA."

The Turkish government says it's happy to have Bryant playing on their team.

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TOPICS: Society; Sports
KEYWORDS: armenians; california; kobebryant; lakers; losangeles; turkey
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Interesting discussion follows.

My POV is: Go, Kobe. We need the Turks as our friends.

1 posted on 12/16/2010 4:04:00 PM PST by La Enchiladita
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To: La Enchiladita

If you think the Muslim Turks are our “friends”...you may be a member of CAIR

I remember all the nonsense non-conservative GOP made a few years ago when congress recognized the Armenian genocide. Blowhards were claiming “we need Turkey as allies” as the Turks were refusing the US to use their NATO bases and airspace for the war in Iraq

It sickens me that people support Islamic Terrorism committed against CHRISTIAN ARMENIANS. This is Holocaust Denial.

Kobe should have used better judgement in his sponsorships. Armenians have a right to be offended...and Christian Americans should be supportive of the Armenians...and not of the Muslim Turks

Only a fool or a Globalist thinks Turkey is an actual ally. Turkey is undergoing mass Islamification as we speak


2 posted on 12/16/2010 4:14:10 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Whenever something is "Global"...it means its bad for America)
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To: La Enchiladita

How disgusing—turk money got to him! That is how our whole govt apparatus has become corrupted. We place profit over morality.

Shame on Kobe and any Freeper who feels otherwise.


3 posted on 12/16/2010 4:23:29 PM PST by eleni121 (Prepare the table, watch in the watchtower, eat, drink: arise ye princes, and prepare the shield)
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To: La Enchiladita
Last I checked it was a free country - Kobe can do what he wants.

Perhaps Hedo Türkoğlu talked him into it.

4 posted on 12/16/2010 4:23:59 PM PST by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
Yes indeed, the Iraq war proved that we can neither depend upon, nor do we “need” Turkey as our allies.

The Armenian genocide is exactly holocaust denial, except it is hard to deny what nobody is talking about anyway (other than in nearby “Little Armenia” no doubt).

If the Turks are expendable in real-politic, the Armenians are doubly so.

Isn't there a statute of limitations on international crimes? Like when everyone who participated is dead, can't we assume that it is over?

Kobe Bryant got a payday. Whoever thought this man was a moral beacon didn't read the court transcripts. His wife got a nice diamond out of the deal. He gives as he expects to receive, the payoff.

5 posted on 12/16/2010 4:30:54 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: La Enchiladita

On October 12, 1980, I was at a swap meet in Hollywood, Calif. when heard a loud noise—it sounded like “poof.” It turned out to be a bomb that was detonated about a block and a half from where I stood. A group calling itself the Justice Commandos of the Armenian Genocide claimed responsibility for the bombing, which targeted a travel agency owned by an American of Turkish extraction. The only casualty was an Englishman who happened to be driving by and was hurt by flying shrapnel. However, the blast could have been fatal to anyone who happened to be walking by on the sidewalk next to the shop.

I fail to see how attacking the property owned by US citizens in America and hurting innocent people advances the cause of Armenian victims of events that occurred half a world away and decades earlier. That attack took away whatever sympathy I may have had for Armenian grievances against the Turks.

Go, Kobe!


6 posted on 12/16/2010 4:54:50 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: La Enchiladita

I don’t think Kobe knew a thing about the Turk/Armenian situation.

They offered him $$$, he took it.

Now that the large Armenian population in LA is upset, he may well back out.


7 posted on 12/16/2010 5:02:24 PM PST by Retired Greyhound
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To: La Enchiladita

Armenian-Americans, ah one more hyphenated group of lessor Americans.

If you are an American of X heritage FINE but if you always view yourself as a X-American you are a lessor American.

This is supposed to be your country, get with the damn program or head back to the cesspool from whence you came.


8 posted on 12/16/2010 5:07:29 PM PST by Wurlitzer (Welcome to the new USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika))
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To: La Enchiladita

Kobe is not known to identify with victims.


9 posted on 12/16/2010 5:08:06 PM PST by Judges Gone Wild (Who are these uncircumcised to oppose the armies of the Living God?)
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To: Judges Gone Wild

So you’re in solidarity with the Armenian victims? Or, what victims are you referring to? Do you think the gal who went to his hotel room was a victim?


10 posted on 12/16/2010 6:16:58 PM PST by La Enchiladita
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

Same to you but more of it.
If you think I am a member of CAIR, you must have signed on to FR this morning.
If you have something to say, then say it, but your first words are defamation against me which means you have no case.

Turks are not historically predominantly muslim. The islam movement has steadily encroached in the country however.

Do you suggest we become open enemies with Turkey and drive them further into muslim domination?


11 posted on 12/16/2010 6:21:13 PM PST by La Enchiladita
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To: Fiji Hill

Very telling anecdote, thank you. I saw their character first hand when they moved into, and took over, the general Glendale area back in the late ‘70s.

I didn’t know Armenians were basketball fans either; I don’t think this is going to hurt the Lakers.

And, as for Kobe, many have developed their bias along the way and stuck with that image. All I know is he is a smart, successful American... and a surprisingly patriotic one, at that.


12 posted on 12/16/2010 6:31:32 PM PST by La Enchiladita
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To: eleni121

Like it or not, Turkish Airlines has inaugurated non-stop flights from LAX to Turkey and this is why Kobe’s promotion is significant.


13 posted on 12/16/2010 6:33:39 PM PST by La Enchiladita
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To: La Enchiladita
You really need to study up on who the Turks are dear lady.

You are looking more and more ridiculous with your inane comments about the Turks.

genocidal murderous Turk=genocidal murderous Muslim

They turned muslim from animist in the 10th century when they began invading the Middle East from their central asian homelands. Thereafter everything they have touched has turned to blood. Many of the people they conquered became Muslim in order to survive some of whom are ‘Crypto Christians...but very few. Most went to the dark side.

Anyone who does business with them has put profit above morality.

14 posted on 12/16/2010 9:03:45 PM PST by eleni121 (Prepare the table, watch in the watchtower, eat, drink: arise ye princes, and prepare the shield)
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To: La Enchiladita

Seriously, start by studying the Ottoman Empire and then preach about the “goodness” of the Turks...


15 posted on 12/16/2010 9:19:44 PM PST by Allthegoodusernamesaregone
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To: eleni121
You really need to study up on who the Turks are dear lady.

Amazing realizing this lady has no clue on the Ottoman Empire and their evil way!

Incidentally, Kim Kardashian wasn't available for comments and she cannot start dating Kobe since he's married. Not that would stop him ;)
16 posted on 12/16/2010 9:21:59 PM PST by Allthegoodusernamesaregone
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To: Allthegoodusernamesaregone
Yes, The most civilized treatment of religious minorities in the world at the time, a thriving center of trade for all, regardless of faith or ethnicity, and a place where even slaves could rise to positions of wealth and power (even while still officially slaves by law).

I don't see the Turks rioting because they didn't get their welfare check, unlike a certain country to their west.

17 posted on 12/16/2010 9:26:28 PM PST by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Clemenza
The most civilized treatment of religious minorities in the world at the time, a thriving center of trade for all, regardless of faith or ethnicity, and a place where even slaves could rise to positions of wealth and power (even while still officially slaves by law).

Clearly, you avoided centuries of history of the Ottoman Empire. And being born in a nation just across from Turkey, I know first hand of the "civilized treatment" from the Turks: pillaging, burning of cities, raping, beheadings, enslaving of Christian.

Here's one which will be just up your comprehension alley: Vlad Tepes aka Dracula (the real historical figure and not the Hollywood concoction) younger brother was enslaved by the Turks and made a personal sex slave to the Byazid (look that one up!!!) and his own wife took her life upon facing the realities of enslavement under the Turks. Oh yes, and while at it look at what this "civilized" center did to Constantinople upon conquering.

And while at it, have a conversation with anyone from the Balkans and/or Eastern Europe. They will tell you more about the "civilized treatment of religious minorities".

P.S. Mandatory reading also for everyone from the mean, bad, west: anything by Oriana Fallaci.
18 posted on 12/17/2010 5:16:54 AM PST by Allthegoodusernamesaregone
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To: eleni121
Yes, The most civilized treatment of religious minorities in the world at the time, a thriving center of trade for all, regardless of faith or ethnicity, and a place where even slaves could rise to positions of wealth and power (even while still officially slaves by law). I don't see the Turks rioting because they didn't get their welfare check, unlike a certain country to their west.

I just wanted to share with you this amusing tidbit from Clemenza and allow you to get a chuckle from it. All this time and we were never aware of the fact that it was, in fact, the other nations decimated by the Ottomans, who were mean and evil, while enlightment and civilized behavior was occurring under the Ottomans... So what do you think: indoctrinated, clueless or a weak attempt to rewrite history based on misinformation?
19 posted on 12/17/2010 5:19:57 AM PST by Allthegoodusernamesaregone
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To: Clemenza

Your post astounds in its lack of knowledge of Muslim Ottoman history.

May I suggest you put aside your pernoal bias against Greeks and other Christian peoples of the Balkans, stop reading apologia written by revisionist historians like Mazower, and delve into the reality of slavery, child abduciton, and absolute horror during the satanic Ottoman Empire.

Then check out a video of some Euros who are gradually coming to learn what contemporary Turks are today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRmgI_WXff0


20 posted on 12/17/2010 9:41:55 AM PST by eleni121 (Prepare the table, watch in the watchtower, eat, drink: arise ye princes, and prepare the shield)
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To: La Enchiladita

Do yourself a favor and watch this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRmgI_WXff0


21 posted on 12/17/2010 9:42:39 AM PST by eleni121 (Prepare the table, watch in the watchtower, eat, drink: arise ye princes, and prepare the shield)
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To: Allthegoodusernamesaregone

Yeah I know——Imam Clemenza has had some kind of chip on his shoulder vis a vis Greeks or Balkan Christians for a long time ....how else to explain his abject ignorance?

Did you see this yet? The Euros are gradually getting it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRmgI_WXff0


22 posted on 12/17/2010 9:45:42 AM PST by eleni121 (Prepare the table, watch in the watchtower, eat, drink: arise ye princes, and prepare the shield)
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To: eleni121
Next he will preach about the Muslim tolerance during the Golden Years in Spain!

Some European nations are getting it but I am afraid it's too late. Islam has settled there already and they overcome the welfare system, they multiplied like rabbits and the only way to remedy that is by waging a war which they are neither prepared nor eager to have.
23 posted on 12/17/2010 10:20:11 AM PST by Allthegoodusernamesaregone
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To: La Enchiladita
FWIW Turkish airlines have consistently been the unsafest airline known to mankind. [If you've ever flown them, you'd understand].Metaphorically speaking, the marriage fits Kobe's career choices perfectly.


24 posted on 12/17/2010 10:32:19 AM PST by Daffynition
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To: La Enchiladita

I am in solidarity with both.


25 posted on 12/17/2010 1:56:21 PM PST by Judges Gone Wild (Who are these uncircumcised to oppose the armies of the Living God?)
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To: Allthegoodusernamesaregone
And being born in a nation just across from Turkey,

What nation is that? Why aren't you upfront about identifying where you are from, and hence, your bias?

Mandatory reading also for everyone from the mean, bad, west: anything by Oriana Fallaci.

I am a fan of the late Oriana Fallaci and have been familiar with her for quite some time. I find your reference to the "mean, bad west" to be interesting....

26 posted on 12/17/2010 2:44:40 PM PST by La Enchiladita
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To: eleni121

You give Kobe too much credit. I doubt he knows a thing about the Armenian Genocide.

Perhaps he’ll learn soon.


27 posted on 12/17/2010 2:50:06 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Pablo lives jubtabulously!)
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To: Allthegoodusernamesaregone; Clemenza

Wait a minute. You’re a poser, Allthegoodusernamesaregone. On this thread, you say you were “born in a nation just across from Turkey,” and in your posting history you say your “hometown” is in Wales. There are many, many countries in between those two, they are not “just across” from one another. Hometown is one’s place of origin. So, you’re just some drunk sitting around in a Welsh pub, with an axe to grind.

POSER!!


28 posted on 12/17/2010 2:52:47 PM PST by La Enchiladita
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To: La Enchiladita
What nation is that? Why aren't you upfront about identifying where you are from, and hence, your bias?
My bias? Cupcake, I am not the one who spews out nonsense and calls the one not agreeing with your views biased.

I find your reference to the "mean, bad west" to be interesting....
Please, don't pull an Alinsky tactic, doing a spin. Let me remind you that you were the one applauding Turkey for not having an entitlement program (which you are incorrect, they have a healthy Welfare system which is running broke as well) compared to the nations to the west. Hence it was you implying the merits of the Turkish society over the West's. Seriously, go share your revised history to Berkeley. It fits better with their agenda.

And if Fallaci was indeed one of your favorite writers, you would have demonstrated at least better history knowledge and truth than what your have spewed so far!

Revisionists bore me, hence you do to! Especially the ones aiming low, hoping that the other side is riding Shetlands !
29 posted on 12/17/2010 2:55:45 PM PST by Allthegoodusernamesaregone
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To: Tijeras_Slim; eleni121

There are many genocides to learn about, don’t you think?

However, please explain to us how Turkish Airlines is responsible for genocide of Armenians. Apparently, you want to make the airlines and now Kobe responsible for a holocaust.

Do you understand where we could go with this?

Lufthansa and China Airlines also fly out of LAX and many international airports. Let’s say a celebrity signs on for an endorsement to travel by one of these carriers. Is this then an endorsement of the extermination of millions of Jews in Germany during WWII? An endorsement of China’s invasion and decimation of Tibet, of their own people in Tian-man Square?

How about U.S. based airlines being to blame for the U.S. dropping the atom bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

I guess it depends on who makes the protest and who points the finger. Apparently, the Armenians experienced the most important and morally superior holocaust of the past century.

What I see here is selective moralism.


30 posted on 12/17/2010 3:01:14 PM PST by La Enchiladita
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To: La Enchiladita
Honey bunch, one can be born in one place and have a hometown somewhere else :) Hometown is the town (or city) where you grew up. My place of birth and home town are not the same!

Maybe you should ask Santa for a dictionary!!

Clearly, you have no other argument so you lower yourself on personal attacks! It fits you!

Merry Christmas!


31 posted on 12/17/2010 3:01:39 PM PST by Allthegoodusernamesaregone
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To: La Enchiladita; Tijeras_Slim; eleni121
However, please explain to us how Turkish Airlines is responsible for genocide of Armenians.

Enchiladita, darling, you really love spinning things to fit your argument. Too bad history keeps proving you wrong!

Eleni121, I am stopping right here trying to debate facts and history with the spinners and sore losers like Enchiladita. I've been accused of being a "poser" and a "drunk" already simply because the dude just doesn't like what I have to say and lacks the arguments to back up his statements. I haven't decided if that's pathetic or disgusting or both but still, not worth it!

Cheers, darling!
32 posted on 12/17/2010 3:06:32 PM PST by Allthegoodusernamesaregone
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To: Allthegoodusernamesaregone

Listen up, noobie. If all you can do is make up childish insults as a substitute for being honest about where you are from, you have no credibility as a debater on this forum. We have been having discussions re Turkey, esp. contemporary Turkey, on this forum long before you showed up. But then, you would have to learn the keyword feature and do more reading than talking.


33 posted on 12/17/2010 3:06:38 PM PST by La Enchiladita
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To: Allthegoodusernamesaregone

#30 was not posted to you.


34 posted on 12/17/2010 3:09:40 PM PST by La Enchiladita
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To: Allthegoodusernamesaregone

POSER!!


35 posted on 12/17/2010 3:10:40 PM PST by La Enchiladita
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To: Allthegoodusernamesaregone

Oh no! You got the ‘noob’ argument used against you!

You must be directly over the target!

Bombs Away!


36 posted on 12/17/2010 3:10:51 PM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: La Enchiladita
What I see here is selective moralism.

There's plenty to go around. Turkish Airlines isn't responsible, nor is Kobe. He just stepped in one of those minefields of historical greivance that's out there.

Social Engineering in the 20th century, the gift that keeps on giving.

37 posted on 12/17/2010 3:16:48 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Pablo lives jubtabulously!)
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To: La Enchiladita
Poser, drunk and now a noobie! And you whine about childish insults! Short memory or selective? You are the one insulting others!!!

Talking and reading in a book about a part of the world does not make you an expert. Maybe others, definitely not you! So stop playing the victim here when you are in fact the bully in chief.

Tenure does not give one any rights unless he belongs in an union! Last time I looked, JR was a conservative and FR was not unionized! One's reputation is based on facts and posts and not membership! And while you have been discussing Turkey (contemporary or otherwise) others have actually traveled there, lived there, dealt with the people. It's called real life experience!

Regardless ... merry Christmas!
38 posted on 12/17/2010 3:16:59 PM PST by Allthegoodusernamesaregone
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To: Wurlitzer

That was a really dumb statement, congratulations.


39 posted on 12/17/2010 3:17:30 PM PST by montyspython
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To: GourmetDan
Oh no! You got the ‘noob’ argument used against you!

Yeah, quite original, isn't it? Next he will be holding his breath while complaining about me to the moderators... Simply because he was pushed down in the sand box!
40 posted on 12/17/2010 3:19:03 PM PST by Allthegoodusernamesaregone
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To: La Enchiladita
POSER!!

[SNORTING] Yeah, okay! LOL
41 posted on 12/17/2010 3:21:06 PM PST by Allthegoodusernamesaregone
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To: Allthegoodusernamesaregone

I have seen that used more in the last few months than ever before.

It’s embarrassing that ‘seasoned’ Freepers even resort to such.

It used to be all about the content of a poster’s argument back in the ‘olden days’ when I was a ‘noob’. But that only works if your sign-up date precedes the sign-up date of the person throwing the ‘noob insult’ around. :-)


42 posted on 12/17/2010 3:25:35 PM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan
I know what you mean and I appreciate your kind words. Fortunately, most of the FReepers are like you, true gentlemen!

On a different note, I miss JR Sr. I wish his health was better! We all need to remember him in our prayers. He created an oasis for conservatives at a time when there was only him and Rush fighting the battles.
43 posted on 12/17/2010 3:31:57 PM PST by Allthegoodusernamesaregone
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I happen to live in the present, and I think Kobe does too. If I sided with everyone in their grievances as they pleaded with me, it would do no good. Might as well pick one to love me and one to hate me. In fact, picking neither side is best. I learned that as a mediator.


44 posted on 12/17/2010 3:34:08 PM PST by La Enchiladita
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To: La Enchiladita

I think Kobe definitely lives in the present, in the sense he probably doesn’t have a clue on this or many historical issues. He just happened to make an endorsement in a town that has a sizeable community for which this is an ongoing source of contention.

The killing of Armenians is a matter of historical record, but getting the Turks to admit to it... well that’s probably less likely than the Japanese apologizing for Nanking.

I’m off to scourge myself on the off chance that one of my ancestors kept slaves, see you later. ;)


45 posted on 12/17/2010 3:42:57 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Pablo lives jubtabulously!)
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To: Allthegoodusernamesaregone
...you were the one applauding Turkey for not having an entitlement program (which you are incorrect, they have a healthy Welfare system which is running broke as well)

Regardless, Turkey is one of the rising economies of the world, along with China, India, Iran and Brazil. (And, I didn't make any assertions re entitlements in Turkey; you pulled that one out of thin air.)

46 posted on 12/17/2010 3:43:49 PM PST by La Enchiladita
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To: La Enchiladita
And, I didn't make any assertions re entitlements in Turkey; you pulled that one out of thin air.)

Allow me to point out your own post #17: "I don't see the Turks rioting because they didn't get their welfare check, unlike a certain country to their west."

Let's not play semantics here, shall we? And as far as Turkey, they indeed have an economy just like India, where they produce cheap products. Turkish products are being avoided by shoppers, having the reputation of being of lower quality than the Indian or Chinese made ones. Also, they are at the bottom when it comes to equal pay for all genders. It is also known as a toxic waste dump. So yes, this is the modern Turkey you admire so much! It makes me wonder if you grew up on the shores of the Dardanelles, reason why you are such an avid defender based on completely subjective reasons.
47 posted on 12/17/2010 4:14:15 PM PST by Allthegoodusernamesaregone
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To: Allthegoodusernamesaregone

Obviously, you have a problem. Let me TRY to help you, carefully and slowly. I am not Clemenza.

Add your inability to comprehend that simple fact, to your baseless personal accusations and your refusal to state your country of origin although you refer to it as “across from” Turkey, your obviously biased and muddled statements have ZERO credibility.


48 posted on 12/17/2010 4:21:48 PM PST by La Enchiladita
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To: GourmetDan

Are you sure you want to admit to being a friend of the poster you write to in #42?

And, wouldn’t you expect a FReeper — although protected by an anonyous user I.D. — to be forthcoming about country of origin, especially when they have already obliquely referred to its location?

Doesn’t dishonesty on one point call other points into question?


49 posted on 12/17/2010 4:24:43 PM PST by La Enchiladita
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To: La Enchiladita
Are you sure you want to admit to being a friend of the poster you write to in #42?"

Are you in the habit of projecting your opinions onto others as a form of 'argument'?

"And, wouldn’t you expect a FReeper — although protected by an anonyous user I.D. — to be forthcoming about country of origin, especially when they have already obliquely referred to its location?"

Are you attempting to re-direct the focus of the discussion onto your opponent in order to avoid your use of the 'noob argument'?

"Doesn’t dishonesty on one point call other points into question?"

Does the projection ever stop?

50 posted on 12/17/2010 4:37:09 PM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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